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Juan · 04-13-2003, 02:50 PM

I'm so lucky. I only pay for upstream bandwidth to my server. I can serve videos all day and not pay a dime extra. I love my life.

Juan · 04-13-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by chupacabra

no, i don't... i'd read that it is possible w/ certain formats

It is.

MarcieB · 04-13-2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Juan

It is.

So post the link

Dildozer · 04-13-2003, 03:09 PM

Well if you guys are organizing something, count me in i'll help in any way i can

fnet · 04-13-2003, 03:39 PM

Analyze the ways in which the RIAA and their hired guns have failed. Don't waste time repeating their mistakes.

Tuga · 04-13-2003, 04:33 PM

fnet I remeber using some program a while back to download mp3, and all the mp3 were really bad quality. I deleted it and dont even remember wich one was it. Of course I know a dozen programs to get mp3, and porn, but the average surfer knows napster, kazaa, and that's it...

OY · 04-13-2003, 04:41 PM

We have a 1:351 convertion ratio from Kazaa FREE traffic using our DRM (Digital Rights Managment) technology to secure content. We viral it out ourselves and make money off Kazaa.

Why hate Kazaa and the "freebees" when you can embrace it and make money from it???

Read more about ways to make money off Kazaa and other P2P networks here: http://www.playasolutions.com/playa_rights_manager.html

Toker · 04-13-2003, 04:45 PM

The servers are in Denmark. The software is in Estonia. The domain is registered Down Under, the corporation on a tiny island in the South Pacific. The users - 60 million of them - are everywhere around the world. The next Napster? Think bigger. And pity the poor copyright cops trying to pull the plug.

NastyJack · 04-13-2003, 04:57 PM

Most people who use Kazaa use it because they would not pay for porn in the first place - plus I use streaming videos on my site so it doesn't bother me much.

But you got a good idea there - good luck with it!

Tuga · 04-13-2003, 05:01 PM

Oystein it's not about hating kazaa , and I dont think it's about killing it either. It's about removing the excess of quality free porn.

Libertine · 04-13-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Oystein

Why hate Kazaa and the "freebees" when you can embrace it and make money from it???

Because most people will not pay for something if they can get way more for free. About 7 million gigs of content on kazaa right now, all free. Most sites can't compete with that.

Jimmer · 04-13-2003, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
We have a 1:351 convertion ratio from Kazaa FREE traffic using our DRM (Digital Rights Managment) technology to secure content. We viral it out ourselves and make money off Kazaa.

Why hate Kazaa and the "freebees" when you can embrace it and make money from it???

Read more about ways to make money off Kazaa and other P2P networks here: http://www.playasolutions.com/playa_rights_manager.html

Why pay someone for something you can do yourself?

MrPopup · 04-13-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
In another thread I mentioned that Kazaa (which is spreading free porn and thus hurting all our businesses) can be eliminated by spreading lots of fake files, if enough webmasters take part in this.
Since it seems many webmasters are interested in this, it might be a good idea if a bunch of us worked together on this - after all, it's a rather big threat to our income, paysites, free sites and content providers alike.

Are any of you up for this?

Im all for it. I will help you in this process. Fuck the pirates.

Intellectually Property Rights Now!

fnet · 04-13-2003, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Tuga
fnet I remeber using some program a while back to download mp3, and all the mp3 were really bad quality. I deleted it and dont even remember wich one was it. Of course I know a dozen programs to get mp3, and porn, but the average surfer knows napster, kazaa, and that's it...

Exploit terrorism on the most used client and/or media player may help stem the tide if fear is hammered in by the mainstream media.

Keep in mind the hacker world is traditionally pro file sharing.

Kazaa is a piece of Poop. Distributed file <i>storage</i> algorithms have come far and far and far. We're lurching (or leeching) toward one crazily distributed nodally checksum signed ldap. If Kazaa <b>died outright</b> some uber-freenet supermutation would emerge from the ashes within 9 months. I can provide some links if necessary.

For media player exploits try http://www.atstake.com/

Libertine · 04-13-2003, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by NastyJack
Most people who use Kazaa use it because they would not pay for porn in the first place - plus I use streaming videos on my site so it doesn't bother me much.

But you got a good idea there - good luck with it!

Ehm... I think you may be wrong on this one. It's an unlimited supply of full movies. Better than what paysites offer. Any paysites. Yours as well.
Like I said before, Kazaa is the competition on steroids. It has more content than you will ever have, and is free.

rossiya2 · 04-13-2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
is there a version of Kazaa and WinMx that can run on a Unix server? My cable connection is already slow enough most of the time so to have people downloading from me would slow me down to a crawl.

Brad has Kazaa running on BSD with Wine. It's not a command line client it's the uninteractive Windows program itself running on UNIX. http://www.brad-x.com/unix/kazaa-FreeBSD.phtml

AdultNex · 04-13-2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
We have a 1:351 convertion ratio from Kazaa FREE traffic using our DRM (Digital Rights Managment) technology to secure content. We viral it out ourselves and make money off Kazaa.

Why hate Kazaa and the "freebees" when you can embrace it and make money from it???

Read more about ways to make money off Kazaa and other P2P networks here: http://www.playasolutions.com/playa_rights_manager.html

He's right. Viral marketing works.

UnseenWorld · 04-13-2003, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
In another thread I mentioned that Kazaa (which is spreading free porn and thus hurting all our businesses) can be eliminated by spreading lots of fake files, if enough webmasters take part in this.
Since it seems many webmasters are interested in this, it might be a good idea if a bunch of us worked together on this - after all, it's a rather big threat to our income, paysites, free sites and content providers alike.

Are any of you up for this?

How about finding a way to spread viruses through gallery submissions to get rid of the TGP's?

Libertine · 04-13-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by AdultNex

He's right. Viral marketing works.

It might work (a bit), but one simple fact remains:

Paysite = limited content, costs money
Kazaa = unlimited content, free

Now, if you were a surfer, which of those would sound better to you?

Libertine · 04-13-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

How about finding a way to spread viruses through gallery submissions to get rid of the TGP's?

Spreading viruses is illegal, and getting galleries from tgps is not.
Spreading fake files is legal, and getting copyrighted files from Kazaa is not.

I see a *slight* difference. Do you?

fnet · 04-13-2003, 06:56 PM

Some info in this article on Kazaa's chopshop corporate litigation counter measures:

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/10..._hide+.shtm l

ecko544 · 04-13-2003, 07:49 PM

I love Kazaa and you are not going to do nothing with it people don't give a fuck if you make fake files and whatever.. and if people want free porn on a paysite they only have to crack them it's not that hard to get a nice cracker around. All you have to have is a proxy list and some easy skills. Greetz to AccessDiver and JohnTheRipper and all those great tools around

Lane · 04-13-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by ecko544
I love Kazaa and you are not going to do nothing with it people don't give a fuck if you make fake files and whatever.. and if people want free porn on a paysite they only have to crack them it's not that hard to get a nice cracker around. All you have to have is a proxy list and some easy skills. Greetz to AccessDiver and JohnTheRipper and all those great tools around

you dont get it do you?

what % of kazaa users know how to hack paysites?

ecko544 · 04-13-2003, 09:31 PM

aprox between 2-5% but that's big with millions of users on kazaa

ecko544 · 04-13-2003, 09:34 PM

You can make money too if you put ur videos and images there so why say shit about Kazaa ?

OY · 04-13-2003, 09:39 PM

I think you are all "right" and Kazaa is to me the best place to get "free" content, software, etc. from.

I use it religiously.

That is also why I know how to monetize Kaza and exploit it for what it is; A traffic generator.
And as you all know, being webmasters, traffic translates into money if you know how to convert it.

I LOVE FREE TRAFFIC!

PS. http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,57348,00.html

Good article to read...

Fletch XXX · 04-13-2003, 10:08 PM

never used it anyway.

cept to upload that cat tossing video. ;)

hahaha

chupacabra · 04-14-2003, 12:13 AM

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aprox between 2-5% but that's big with millions of users on kazaa

ahaha... sure thing, s. kiddy... i'll keep that in mind, pretty generaous number you've come up w/ there..

Triple 6 · 04-14-2003, 12:21 AM

i love my free porn

fris · 04-14-2003, 02:02 AM

i use emule..

www.emule-project.net

open source... total underground... has tonnes more than kazaa... not a lot of people know about it avail for *nix and win32...

http://wxp.step.lv

for more stuff on it

Jimmer · 04-14-2003, 04:54 AM

So what we need is sponsors to provide us with content to share with our affiliate codes encoded in the files

Tuga · 04-14-2003, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i use emule..

www.emule-project.net

open source... total underground... has tonnes more than kazaa... not a lot of people know about it avail for *nix and win32...

http://wxp.step.lv

for more stuff on it

I love it

Libertine · 04-14-2003, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
I think you are all "right" and Kazaa is to me the best place to get "free" content, software, etc. from.

I use it religiously.

That is also why I know how to monetize Kaza and exploit it for what it is; A traffic generator.
And as you all know, being webmasters, traffic translates into money if you know how to convert it.

I LOVE FREE TRAFFIC!

PS. http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,57348,00.html

Good article to read...

Did you just say you get your content from Kazaa?

But, besides that, like you I use Kazaa a lot. I download full porn movies, mainstream movies, mp3s and software. And guess what? I don't buy porn, almost never go to the video store, hardly buy any cds and only buy software because it's a part of my business.
I know something has to be done about these people, because I am them. A potential customer that doesn't turn into a customer because the same and more can be gotten for free.
Yes, some people will still join paysites when they can get everything for free, but most won't. (note: this doesn't apply to tgps. those don't have 100M+ files, generally speaking, and have a limited amount of content)

OY · 04-14-2003, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

Did you just say you get your content from Kazaa?

)

No. We use our own content for our own campaigns and we secure content for other content producers that want to protect their content and viral that out... ;)

foe · 04-22-2003, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by bristol
i suppose we could start an adult investment fund and buy out kazaa, then leech off the returns when we destroy the thing by redirecting everyone to adult paysites.

unrealistic but we can dream.

Alternatives exist and will popup in days

Mags · 04-22-2003, 10:51 AM

What about this
http://www.guba.com
they make usenet content avalible!

Jimmer · 04-22-2003, 10:52 AM

This will be interesting to see

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OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	We have a 1:351 convertion ratio from Kazaa FREE traffic using our DRM (Digital Rights Managment) technology to secure content. We viral it out ourselves and make money off Kazaa. Why hate Kazaa and the "freebees" when you can embrace it and make money from it??? Read more about ways to make money off Kazaa and other P2P networks here: http://www.playasolutions.com/playa_rights_manager.html __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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Toker Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 891	The servers are in Denmark. The software is in Estonia. The domain is registered Down Under, the corporation on a tiny island in the South Pacific. The users - 60 million of them - are everywhere around the world. The next Napster? Think bigger. And pity the poor copyright cops trying to pull the plug. __________________ PeaceAlive and kicking

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Juan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 26	I'm so lucky. I only pay for upstream bandwidth to my server. I can serve videos all day and not pay a dime extra. I love my life.

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ecko544 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 134	I love Kazaa and you are not going to do nothing with it people don't give a fuck if you make fake files and whatever.. and if people want free porn on a paysite they only have to crack them it's not that hard to get a nice cracker around. All you have to have is a proxy list and some easy skills. Greetz to AccessDiver and JohnTheRipper and all those great tools around

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ecko544 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 134	aprox between 2-5% but that's big with millions of users on kazaa

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OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	I think you are all "right" and Kazaa is to me the best place to get "free" content, software, etc. from. I use it religiously. That is also why I know how to monetize Kaza and exploit it for what it is; A traffic generator. And as you all know, being webmasters, traffic translates into money if you know how to convert it. I LOVE FREE TRAFFIC! PS. http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,57348,00.html Good article to read... __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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