I would like to know more about the energy output and economics of a setup like this. This one reflects sunlight to a boiler to generate steam, turn generators and provide electricity. But regular electric panels convert sunlight to electricity directly. Are they somehow less efficient? If they could use the direct sunlight-to-electricity panels they would save all those birds.

solar is great, yet is not so efficient like nuclear. for economic and physics reasons.

good for small houses with low energy consume, not for the rest

I was on the USS Los Angeles (SSN-688)..and yes being the first in class we had too many visitors - Jimmy Carter (he used to be a nuke engineer), Rickover and too many others to count - they all had their eccentricies :thumbsup
I was the Engineering Watch Supv so basically I had to be able to both startup and shutdown the plant

Prove it

it is really amusing how you as a German getting so nervous because you think that you talk with just another arrogant and stupid American. relax man, I'm not a such person (especially not American heheh). so have so mercy for JohnyClips and relax man ! too:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yeah - although the rad levels we were dealing with are miniscule compared to normal activities people get day to day just living their lives...we just had to be able to prove how much they received for legal basis :thumbsup

I think the best comparison I ever heard made was when Rickover was before Congress testifying on nuclear safety, he made the true statement that he had picked up more radiation flying to Wash DC in one flight, then normal nuclear operators get in a year operating a plant

lets use your logic: prove that he is wrong

Prove what?

sadly science is the last thing that talks to people's common sense and usually they follow emotions like zombies

third world Portugal seem to be doing well from Solar as does Espana...

you need to take a chill pill and work out what´s going to happen in a few years if you don´t start looking after your world you live :( :Oh crap

Prove that he wasn't .

it currently only accounts for about 3 percent of electricity generation (Spain)

your input was brilliant as always to the topic....

Dead birds are a big negative. Evidently the output the way they're doing it now must be most efficient compared to energy directly from the panels? The article simplifies how enegy is really created, it's not just heating up water to steam. I saw a special on this on Discovery channel and it's a special heavy thick solution that's almost a solid that's heated up and it becomes more fluid and superheats water to steam, this is how it's able to still generate electricity through the night, the thick solution retains massive heat like a thermos :thumbsup

That's true, but Solar isn't the only renewable energy source for Spain. Found this: Spain Closes In on 50 Percent Renewable Power Generation

I *LOVE* How fast renewable energy seems to be growing now. I really hope it keeps going.

nothing wrong with that...except: bad influence of wind farms to nearest living people and animals...but overall it aint that bad

if Germany can run on renewable energy only (currently it's up to 80+% on good days), everybody else can too

fuck nuclear and fuck coal, technically we're way past that

i always wonder what makes people so keen on destroying the planet, must be a lack of long term vison - or simply a lack of intelligence

where did you get your data from ?
http://strom-report.de/medien/germany-energy-mix.png
post link or its FAKE NEWS ! heheh
also:
https://static.secure.website/wscfus...ricity-mix.png

On birds flying into it, maybe, but what effects on people are you talking about?

I began the topic dick for brains, I don´t need to continue adding any more input, however, i´m very proud to live in Spain & be British, both countries seem to be trying harder to give more back to this planet than the idiot coal waste dumping Trump :321GFY

Let´s get this right, any small percent is more than none! Going backwards is just brilliant. Now maybe you can give more input than just pulling negativity on my positive world input as always :thumbsup

exactly, like most of the EU.

Britain´s wind turbines seem to be growing both in the sea & on land, as does Spain, they use a lot of gas :2 cents:

I suggest Trump takes a jump off the nearest cliff because he´s doing wrong for the US & now creating more environment problems for the world!

this :2 cents:

lol so trump can do no right?

noise and some health/ mental issues to more sensitive ppl.
it is also not so reliable as you have to have some energy backup as wind doesnt blow all the time...

That's debatable and looks like it is mostly debunked now. David Suzuki: Health effects from wind power unfounded | Georgia Straight Vancouver's News & Entertainment Weekly

There are wind turbines not far from here. I'll have to go spend a day around them myself one day and see for myself. Then again if there is a real issue, 1 day may not be enough to notice.

Sure, but there's storage batteries... and of course it doesn't have to provide energy 100% of the time when you have other forms of backup.

But still. Woohoo!

https://qz.com/680661/germany-had-so...e-electricity/

:winkwink:

Gary, I know I'm wasting my breath here, but it's a scam.

To those of you who are jew-wise...think of it as a kosher tax on white development. If whitey explores the stars, they'll come up with some interstellar equivalent of "climate change".

one day, one Sunday,somewhen back then, my cock was so big that it was 25 cm !
usually it is just 15 cm :-/ but most often less than 10 cm

My dad was on the Los Angeles skimmer CA 135, I wanted to get on the Los Angeles just to follow my dad would have been pretty cool, but no. Everyone from the time knew that about Carter. We were third of the class, but got more than our share of ribbons. Not like now, My daughter had a bunch of medals serving on the USS Ronald Reagan. I scored high enough that they offered me nuke school, but opted for electronics.

Wow, you're a real genius for reading the date on the graph I posted. Pats on the on back to you.

Anyways do you think it has changed a whole lot in 3+ years? Probably not by very much. Coal is still 25% or more of world electrical capacity.

And thank you for posting a graph from the post-modern nation of Germany. Germany has passed it's peak and is now beginning it's decline back into the dark ages and non-existance. Meanwhile enjoy your power outages and bankruptcy due to fighting against the life giving gas CO2.





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so true - how could i forget that we all already radioactive contaminated were born.

but i never heard that work on a submarine makes people losing their brain.

I understand that English is not your first language. English is usually a very forgiving language. But sense you are not making.

Anyways, here is a chart to put your fears about radiation into perspective:

http://i.imgur.com/dQ6mWdw.png





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it will change a fucking lot in 3 years - it changes EVERY year.

that there is still coal in the energy mix has the same reason as in US - coal is subsidized
in Germany since 50 years and for nobody else nessecary as the subsidized workers.

and as you blind frog can not even read this graphic but want to write something smart I should tell you that it is not 25% it is 25 GW from 190 GW in total.
And that number did not change because Germany got rid of more than 50% of the nuclear energy and til 2020 ALL nuclear energy reactors be gone and replaced by green energy.

what a fuck are you talking about? Germany is one of the very few countries were depts are decreasing because the tax income is higher than the costs.

while US depts are growing like 15.000 dollar per second.
who should think about bancrupcy? a country with 2 trillion DECREASING depts and a healthy economy or a country with far over 20 trillion INCREASING depts with a president who can not count 1+1 together?

you are soooo smart. and i am happy that i know now that a radioactive fallout will be meassured in micro sievert. i think every household should have his own reactor and the trash we throw in the green garbitch tonn.

i hope my english is good enough to tell you that you are a COMPLETLY IGNORANT IDIOT !

It isn't.

greetz.

Ok fucktard. I tried to be polite to you. But in typical leftist/fascist fashion you get belligerent. That's a signal to me that you're not worth addressing. Cheers and good bye. Enjoy your decline.





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so who has the biggest cock in this thread, just after me ?:winkwink::winkwink:

more discussion please :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:

prove who is the best :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i somehow always saw you as reasonable person, must have confused you with somebody else

^ hey goody 2 shoes, why ya working in porn??

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