Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Pro-Abortion Arguments

[wehateporn]

https://youtu.be/gkONHNXGfaM?t=5m57s

[PR_Glen]

Oh, do you mean pro choice? I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as pro-abortion.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Oh, do you mean pro choice? I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as pro-abortion.

If you have an abortion, you are pro abortion

And wow, Ben Shapiro has absolutely no charisma whatsoever...how does this guy have such a big following and get paid so much to speak at colleges?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Oh, do you mean pro choice? I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as pro-abortion.

The term 'pro-choice' is rhetoric, pro-abortion people who want to be referred to as pro-choice must know that abortion is wrong, as otherwise they wouldn't want to hide the word away and not be identified as pro-abortion.

[kane]

Destroy is a pretty misleading word. What he did is point out the fact that very few abortions are carried out due to rape and incest and that he is strongly opposed to abortion.

[Linkster]

From the guy that's so smart he thinks Sesame Street is liberal propaganda - he's a total idiot...calls himself conservative but he's just spouting out what sells books...nowhere near a conservative

[brassmonkey]

some abortions are brutal shit. they twist around a fully formed baby and cut the spine. i had to watch one when i worked for bush jr. i will never forget that horror. if it does not breath air it's not legally a baby.

[bronco67]

I've been seeing a lot of stories where someone points out Ben Shapiro "destroyed" someone...but all I see is a contrarian know-it-all being a pompous asshole in almost every instance. Who is this kid and why does anyone care? Is he some alt-right hero?

[oppoten]

He's the kosher 'alt-right'. Him and Milo (also Jewish) are heavily promoted in the media, to try and lead the alt-right kids away from white nationalism.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by bronco67

I've been seeing a lot of stories where someone points out Ben Shapiro "destroyed" someone...but all I see is a contrarian know-it-all being a pompous asshole in almost every instance. Who is this kid and why does anyone care? Is he some alt-right hero?

Yeah - I finally figured out where I knew him from...he's one of the idiots over at Daily Wire that are all pompous jerks with some thought that they are better than everyone else in the US because they are "college educated" and frat bros and sorority sisters...what losers

[oppoten]

* the goyim don't know. Fund the tour!

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

https://youtu.be/gkONHNXGfaM?t=5m57s

Pro choice

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The term 'pro-choice' is rhetoric, pro-abortion people who want to be referred to as pro-choice must know that abortion is wrong, as otherwise they wouldn't want to hide the word away and not be identified as pro-abortion.

It's not about right or wrong. Any religious arguement fails. It's simply a problem limited technology. If they could take the zygote & implant it elsewhere that'd be great. Forcing a 16 yo to go term and then forcing her to adopt it off is even worse. It is simply a necessary evil. I'm for stricter regs, but not an all out ban. I've debated this successfully on the college debate team. It wasn't until I became a little wiser that I realized it can not be debated logically. Until technology can bring about change the only way to proceed is to give the choice to the parents, ultimately the mother, as much as it pains me to say that

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Who in the fuck puts themselves in a position to have an abortion anyways?

[King Mark]

Lol technology. If the baby ain't a death risk to mom, you're a murderer. 16 year olds have babies all the time. There's even a show about it. Nobody is forcing her to adopt it off.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Lol technology. If the baby ain't a death risk to mom, you're a murderer. 16 year olds have babies all the time. There's even a show about it. Nobody is forcing her to adopt it off.

Can't kill something that cant live on its own

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Who in the fuck puts themselves in a position to have an abortion anyways?

It happens man

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as pro-abortion.

def not widely used but informally, absolutely. I consider myself pro-abortion, and pro-choice. use 'em both interchangeably as I refuse to shy away from stating the nature of the choice I support for peeps who don't want to carry to term/deliver.

Originally Posted by kane

Destroy is a pretty misleading word. What he did is point out the fact that very few abortions are carried out due to rape and incest and that he is strongly opposed to abortion.

lol, gracias for the synopsis. didn't read it, figured as much though. seems like these days 'victory' in the public sphere pretty much comes down to who talks loudest and pokes the amygdala hardest

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The term 'pro-choice' is rhetoric, pro-abortion people who want to be referred to as pro-choice must know that abortion is wrong, as otherwise they wouldn't want to hide the word away and not be identified as pro-abortion.

I did not realise you were a christian ?

[oppoten]

^ (((You))) think we're all culturally Christian, even if we don't adhere to the Christian faith

[Paul Markham]

If the government decrees a Mother must have a baby from conception to birth, the Government should take over paying for it. From Cradle to Grave,

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The term 'pro-choice' is rhetoric, pro-abortion people who want to be referred to as pro-choice must know that abortion is wrong, as otherwise they wouldn't want to hide the word away and not be identified as pro-abortion.

I did not realise you were a christian ?

[oppoten]

^ I noticed this in another thread. If you still think Christianity is your main enemy, you're out of touch.

And you're not giving (((yourselves))) enough credit. You destroyed Christianity, well done! People oppose abortion on the grounds that they think it's murder, rightly or wrongly. If that offends you, or rubs you up the wrong way, then it tends to suggest that you want to have influence over the birthrate of non-Jews

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I did not realise you were a christian ?

Nope, no religion here

[kane]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The term 'pro-choice' is rhetoric, pro-abortion people who want to be referred to as pro-choice must know that abortion is wrong, as otherwise they wouldn't want to hide the word away and not be identified as pro-abortion.

I think those two words can mean two different things. I describe myself as pro-choice. I personally don't agree with abortion and wouldn't want a woman I got pregnant to have an abortion. However, I support the right of those who choose to have.

To me pro-abortion means you are encouraging abortions and want people to have them. Pro-choice means you support their right to chose to have one or not, but you may not encourage them to have an abortion.

[Matyko]

MEN talking about abortion is so fucking retarded

[pimpmaster9000]

america is a backwards country where abortions are an issue...

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by Matyko

MEN talking about abortion is so fucking retarded

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^YEPPERS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Nope, no religion here

Bullshit, not only do you worship at the altar of the conspiracy, you now you have blind faith in your god Trump. After all what is faith and religion if it is not the ability to believe in stuff that has neither evidence to substantiate it, or a defend able position when evidence to the contrary is proposed.

So if you think that your anti abortion stance is not founded in the Christian culture of your upbringing you really need to think again. The sanctity of life argument is very much a religious construct. A purely logical approach delivers a different conclusion.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by oppoten

^ I noticed this in another thread. If you still think Christianity is your main enemy, you're out of touch.

And you're not giving (((yourselves))) enough credit. You destroyed Christianity, well done! People oppose abortion on the grounds that they think it's murder, rightly or wrongly. If that offends you, or rubs you up the wrong way, then it tends to suggest that you want to have influence over the birthrate of non-Jews

Jesus.

Can you please try and conceal your anti-semitism every now and then.

Every single comment you make it spews out like a fractured dam.

[wehateporn]

I'm a vegetarian, does that mean I've been influenced by one of the vegetarian religions?

I have no idea what to expect from Trump really, but it's clear that anyone is better than that other lot. The media being anti-Trump is a sure sign that he's not working for the establishment.

With time I became more philosophical about abortion, while I'm still against it, I'm also aware that the cloud does have a silver lining for the future of the human genepool. I've never heard a Christian say such a thing

Originally Posted by NewNick

Bullshit, not only do you worship at the altar of the conspiracy, you now you have blind faith in your god Trump. After all what is faith and religion if it is not the ability to believe in stuff that has neither evidence to substantiate it, or a defend able position when evidence to the contrary is proposed.

So if you think that your anti abortion stance is not founded in the Christian culture of your upbringing you really need to think again. The sanctity of life argument is very much a religious construct. A purely logical approach delivers a different conclusion.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm a vegetarian, does that mean I've been influenced by one of the vegetarian religions?

Not sure on the relevance of your argument.

However to answer your point - yes absolutely it does.

We have evolved as opportunistic omnivores. It is one of the main features of human behaviour which has allowed the human species to assert itself as the dominant force on this planet. Our ability to survive on an endlessly varied diet has allowed us to inhabit virtually the whole planet no matter what food stuffs are available in each location. We are not naturally specialist eaters of one particular type of food - it takes a conscious decision to abstain.

Throughout history vegetarianism and religion are synonymous. Full scale vegetarians such as Hindu's and Buddists in the east, and early Jews and Christians all practising partial abstinence during certain festivals or as an act of piety. Vegetarian practices are firmly rooted in the great religions, and it is from these belief systems that the notion of vegetarianism being a positive action is formed.

So now when you think you are making decisions upon which you believe you are exorcising logic and free will, you are actually ignoring the cultural influences that form your moral code. You make the same mistake with your abortion stance as you do with your vegetarianism. You think that you hold superior moral views on these subjects, whilst ignoring the fact that the sanctity of life position, and vegetarianism, are both thoroughly embedded in the ancient religious codes which you profess to be above.

Enlightened ? not so much.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Not sure on the relevance of your argument.

However to answer your point - yes absolutely it does.

We have evolved as opportunistic omnivores. It is one of the main features of human behaviour which has allowed the human species to assert itself as the dominant force on this planet. Our ability to survive on an endlessly varied diet has allowed us to inhabit virtually the whole planet no matter what food stuffs are available in each location. We are not naturally specialist eaters of one particular type of food - it takes a conscious decision to abstain.

Throughout history vegetarianism and religion are synonymous. Full scale vegetarians such as Hindu's and Buddists in the east, and early Jews and Christians all practising partial abstinence during certain festivals or as an act of piety. Vegetarian practices are firmly rooted in the great religions, and it is from these belief systems that the notion of vegetarianism being a positive action is formed.

So now when you think you are making decisions upon which you believe you are exorcising logic and free will, you are actually ignoring the cultural influences that form your moral code. You make the same mistake with your abortion stance as you do with your vegetarianism. You think that you hold superior moral views on these subjects, whilst ignoring the fact that the sanctity of life position, and vegetarianism, are both thoroughly embedded in the ancient religious codes which you profess to be above.

Enlightened ? not so much.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I should really reply with a version of your debate pyramid that you so gleefully used in another thread.

Although the pic above is an interesting subconscious display of reverence to the prophet of your religion though.

If not absolutely fucking predictable.

One day WHP you might have something interesting to say that you had not just seen on Youtube.

One day.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Matyko

MEN talking about abortion is so fucking retarded

I was about to post something similar - wtf gives men the idea that they have the right to even take sides on this issue? Oh that's right....you think you are better deciders than women and know what's good for them.... Anytime a man starts talking about how a woman should control anything - he has just lost all respect in the world

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I should really reply with a version of your debate pyramid that you so gleefully used in another thread.

Although the pic above is an interesting subconscious display of reverence to the prophet of your religion though.

If not absolutely fucking predictable.

One day WHP you might have something interesting to say that you had not just seen on Youtube.

One day.

[MaDalton]

how about btw every guy would carry condoms instead of bragging how they "barebacked that bitch" behind the dumpster...

then we might not need to discuss abortions that much - getting pregnant takes (usually) two people

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I should really reply with a version of your debate pyramid that you so gleefully used in another thread.

Sounded like you were joking, hence my Alex Jones pic

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by StefanG

how about btw every guy would carry condoms instead of bragging how they "barebacked that bitch" behind the dumpster...

then we might not need to discuss abortions that much - getting pregnant takes (usually) two people

Or wait till marriage to have sex

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Or wait till marriage to have sex

Or we could require all men to have vasectomies and once they are ready to be fathers, then we can reverse it... shouldl man up instead of putting the responsibility on the frail little women babyhosts

[Linkster]

Past quotes from the people that run states and the country - interesting look back:

?If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn?t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist?s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn?t (in most cases) result in anyone?s death.?

?In the emergency room they have what?s called rape kits, where a woman can get cleaned out.?

?Even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.?

?Rape victims should make the best of a bad situation.?

?If it?s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that thing down.?

?Rape is kinda like the weather. If it?s inevitable, relax and enjoy it.?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Linkster

I was about to post something similar - wtf gives men the idea that they have the right to even take sides on this issue? Oh that's right....you think you are better deciders than women and know what's good for them.... Anytime a man starts talking about how a woman should control anything - he has just lost all respect in the world

looooong time no speak - hope you are well

I gotta oppose that post though... I as a man, can't take a side that says it's the woman's choice, if a woman steps up and screams some shit about 'abortion is murder'? Not even getting into the whole thing about yes, men should have input at least with their partner if he feels he doesn't want a kid for whatever reasons of his own he has.

I'm pro-choice (or as jesse put it, have no problem with being labelled 'pro-abortion, as if that's some insult where I'm stomping around everywhere demanding all pregnancies should be terminated lol, though I digress from your point obviously), and ultimately if a woman wants to have an abortion then it *is* up to her, but I can't agree that men should have no input, just for the fact they are men


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In general, to the thread topic:

For me at least, the open-jawed part is why should anyone tell someone else what they can or can't do with their own bodies, assuming they are of sound mind. "You *cannot* have an abortion, and MUST have the baby, and if you're ill-equipped to deal with raising a human being, well, we'll worry about that at some point in the future when it's too late" <--- fucking madness

[MaDalton]

Republicans be like

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Jel

looooong time no speak - hope you are well

I gotta oppose that post though... I as a man, can't take a side that says it's the woman's choice, if a woman steps up and screams some shit about 'abortion is murder'? Not even getting into the whole thing about yes, men should have input at least with their partner if he feels he doesn't want a kid for whatever reasons of his own he has.

I'm pro-choice (or as jesse put it, have no problem with being labelled 'pro-abortion, as if that's some insult where I'm stomping around everywhere demanding all pregnancies should be terminated lol, though I digress from your point obviously), and ultimately if a woman wants to have an abortion then it *is* up to her, but I can't agree that men should have no input, just for the fact they are men


----

In general, to the thread topic:

For me at least, the open-jawed part is why should anyone tell someone else what they can or can't do with their own bodies, assuming they are of sound mind. "You *cannot* have an abortion, and MUST have the baby, and if you're ill-equipped to deal with raising a human being, well, we'll worry about that at some point in the future when it's too late" <--- fucking madness

Quality post right there

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by StefanG

removing the republican from your quote though cuz for real it's larger than that. dems are just as bad

see exhibit a: B Clinton's kneecapping of low income, single and racialized moms during his tenure in office. which H Clinton supported at the time and didn't retract during her rally for the feminist vote in the last election

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Sounded like you were joking, hence my Alex Jones pic

When I tell jokes it is funny.

You will know this difference because you will Laugh.

Ha

Ha

Ha

Capice ?

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Or wait till marriage to have sex

Please stop with the religious bullshit !

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by Jel

looooong time no speak - hope you are well

I gotta oppose that post though... I as a man, can't take a side that says it's the woman's choice, if a woman steps up and screams some shit about 'abortion is murder'? Not even getting into the whole thing about yes, men should have input at least with their partner if he feels he doesn't want a kid for whatever reasons of his own he has.

I'm pro-choice (or as jesse put it, have no problem with being labelled 'pro-abortion, as if that's some insult where I'm stomping around everywhere demanding all pregnancies should be terminated lol, though I digress from your point obviously), and ultimately if a woman wants to have an abortion then it *is* up to her, but I can't agree that men should have no input, just for the fact they are men


----

In general, to the thread topic:

For me at least, the open-jawed part is why should anyone tell someone else what they can or can't do with their own bodies, assuming they are of sound mind. "You *cannot* have an abortion, and MUST have the baby, and if you're ill-equipped to deal with raising a human being, well, we'll worry about that at some point in the future when it's too late" <--- fucking madness

sorry, I couldn't resist

[dillfly2000]

Hard violent criminals should all be castrated. It's the male population that cause most of the violence in the world. Remove the balls, remove the testosterone, less angry men.

I know there are violent ladies out there too, but just statistically speaking. We need to turn gangsters, murderers and rapists into softies, I'm sure they wouldn't mind after all said and done.