Holy crap...is this good or bad? I mean...I make some cash off AVS...but all those AVS members will have to get their porn from somewhere...so it may mean more paysite customers.

Or they'll surf TGP

Interesting day for some people I think.

Since regular AVS memberships get you TGP type of stuff or worse (pop ups etc), that's what will happen!

what happened to www.agecheck.com?

They became CyberAge?

Ah thanks. It's been a while since I took much notice to AVS's

There must be at least several hundred webmasters that do AVS exclusively as their source of income?

Not to beat a dead horse, but putting all the eggs in one basket is just asking to take a fall... :(

I just started an AVS project (Premium, Regular, Hub sites) so I just recently did a head count looking for who to use...and I would estimate about 30 significant AVS's out there.

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IF this rumor is true, I am willing to bet it relates to avs' like adultticket, mogulpass and the other dozen of so called 'free' avs sites that come 'free' only with a 'free 1.68$' trial from babenet or dermurell or free membership with the purchase of a $39.95 membership again via babenet or dermurell.

Well, I've never agreed with that business practice to begin with.

Yes, and I imagine if this info. is indeed true, since from reading some of the AVS boards...that there are a serious number of webmasters doing AVS solely, that this could be a massive bomb that just landed in their lap today.

I have heard from some people that certian models of AVS programs are Chargeback hell .... Just look over the avs programs out there and think which ones you think would have high charge backs ?

I agree. It will actually be a good thing if all those 'FREE' avs get shut down (not talking about sexkey that actually is free and offers a truly free trial to their upsell site).

If AVSs like adultcheck are in the line of fire, it's not a good thing.

theyll get rid of tgps before AVS.

those sneaky fucks deserve it. honest avs companies wont suffer. theres no way theyll get ird of AGE VERIFYING sites.
hahaha

Someone posted on an AVS board that they heard this same rumour from an iBill Rep today. Yikes.

Just got some word that AC Pay is having a big downtime Monday.

Say it ain't so...:(

Probably just a coincidence. :1orglaugh

TOTALLY a coincidence. We're moving some servers around, and processing will not be affected (just a blackout for stats for 4 or 5 hours). I haven't heard anything from VISA about this, either way, fwiw.

Sure but it fits the conspiracy nicely.

:1orglaugh

It would seem -- and possibly rightly so -- that Visa is taking the stand that AVS are unregulated aggregators, meaning that they do not report the urls that they are taking signups from.

The case could also be made that AVS are really no different from regular affiliate programs I think... that their webmasters are doing nothing more than marketing in the same manner that tgp galleries and free sites do and that they simply group the reseller marketing pages together in an easy to return to system...

I would imagine that Visas main concern is that TMF accts can go into the AVS system and hide, while still collecting money same as they used to --

IF, and its a big IF, Visa were to disallow AVS sites to exist any more, then they could collect their $750 from everyone that currently has a premium avs site and then had to get their own processing I guess...

I think adult Checks Model is Solid and wont be going anywhere.. It is better to do it that way anyway as the surfers gets better quality sites that dont make him feel like he has wasted his money ..

Quite frankly I'd think the truly free avs have the best chance of staying afloat IF there is going to be a Visa action against avs. After all, they do no transactions so there is nothing that Visa can really say about them. The paysites that the surfer joins on the add on sale are, one would hope, registered and compliant as they should be.

Masturbationman, you're on for that $100 bet. I'm waiting to find out what major processors stop processing AVS sites.

But that still wouldn't do anything to solve the problem of TMF accounts from hiding inside the system. The free AVSs pay out to the webmasters who have sites with them, so those webmasters are still making money, regardless the cost for a surfer to join the umbrella network.

The way VISA is obviously seeing it - the AVS systems are effectively acting as third party processors for AVS and AVS premium site owners.


ALL PRAISE DEMURREL ENTERPRISES! LONG LIVE BABENET!


If anything caused VISA to jump into action them's the ones.

Can I get in on this action too sweetie :)

Well I gotta Say Lens you are pretty confident ... What do you know that we dont ??:winkwink:

$100 isn't confident... $1k would be confident.
Think of the cost of the Xbox system that Lens gives away each week. $100 is just having some fun.

Time is a ticking!!!

Masturbation Man

Masturbationmoney.com Coming soon!!!!

every week?

ive never gotten one.

hey Lens buy a brutha an xbox yo.

:glugglug

Many of the links @ Masturbationmoney.com seem to be going to AVS sites.

Is your site still coming soon?

better still buy me one and give it to the Boy's/Girl's club... OK??? :thumbsup

he gave me a PS2 :)

Well, one of the things *is* an Xbox - the winners don't necessarily choose that...

"How to win: Here is where things get a little complex. But still a great prize. Couple rules here. The thread has to be the longest of the week not counting all of your personal posts, so no sandbagging!!! The time period is Sunday night at midnight. Any thread from the previous week started after Sunday at midnight to the next Sunday at midnight that is the longest wins. You will have the option of a Palm, DVD Player, $200 in content, Playstation 2, an Xbox, or a GameCube. All webmasters outside the US will automatically receive the content. Sorry guys the shipping would kill us! Besides... It's FREE!!!"

Still, ya know what I meant :glugglug

If masturbationman is mperrins then he's the same guy that posted this at avslounge.com. Over there he said that his iBill rep told him about the avs's going under. Now he has a friend on the inside...

http://avslounge.com/cgi-bin/ubb621/...c;f=1;t=002933

hahaha

yeah okay.

:glugglug

Obviously you thought wrong, hes still here!