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inthestars · 04-10-2003, 07:15 PM

Are there any companies that will host a mailing for an adult website?

Kick Ass Chat · 04-10-2003, 07:30 PM

No there anr no stable hosts that are hosting spammers. There is to much heat from providers, but if your doing some mailing somehow, add this to your list
[email protected]

inthestars · 04-10-2003, 07:45 PM

I'm not a spammer. I have an adult website for sex tips and I wanted to start a mailing list.

Kevlar · 04-10-2003, 07:48 PM

I can provide you with hosting that will not get shut down due to mailing. Contact me for more details, info in sig.

Wilbo · 04-10-2003, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by inthestars
I'm not a spammer. I have an adult website for sex tips and I wanted to start a mailing list.

Any hosting company will host a legit opt-in list.

Kevlar · 04-10-2003, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Wilbo

Any hosting company will host a legit opt-in list.

lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money.

Theo · 04-10-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar

lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money.

not true

Kick Ass Chat · 04-10-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar

lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money.

Exactly....Very true..

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar

lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money.

It takes a lot more than 2 complaints to get shutdown at most places.

Theo · 04-10-2003, 08:30 PM

An optin list comes with at least IP stamp, time and date for each email. If you have them, the majority of hosting co. will accept you as a client.

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 08:33 PM

I've heard that before about the ip and timestamp but it doesn't make sense. Its easy enough to fake that sort of information if one was inclined to.

Theo · 04-10-2003, 08:39 PM

if you fake them,youll get more complaints than you should and you'll get shut down.

If you buy an optin list from another this scenario is more than possible. Trusting a 3rd part over this is like playing lotto. If you generate the list alone then you don't have to worry anything. Additionaly in order to make sure you'll avoid the idiots who will put the emails of people that hate, you go for a double optin list.

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 08:40 PM

So again it comes down to complaint volume, not ip's and timestamps.

Kick Ass Chat · 04-10-2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
I've heard that before about the ip and timestamp but it doesn't make sense. Its easy enough to fake that sort of information if one was inclined to.

That is exactly true, and is why soul is wrong. The major bandwidth providers are not tolerating spam as much as they used to. Also their are many many states adopting anti spam laws and enforcing them more then in the past. Spam will never completely go away, but it is definately getting much harder to get away with.

Theo · 04-10-2003, 08:48 PM

not exactly

the point is that if you follow the pattern:

doubleoptin/IP/date/time and you generate them alone you shouldn't get complaints and even if you get some, your host won't shut you down.

Theo · 04-10-2003, 08:51 PM

yeah ok whatever

you equate doubleoptin lists with spam. How bright does this sound?

Kick Ass Chat · 04-10-2003, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
not exactly

the point is that if you follow the pattern:

doubleoptin/IP/date/time and you generate them alone you shouldn't get complaints and even if you get some, your host won't shut you down.

I will agree to your points about having better quality lists, time stamps and even working remove option. But really all of that is worthless. Hosts are now getting so much heat from their providers, that it just is not worth getting ip blocks shut off just for some idiot 29.95 a month spammer.

Kevlar · 04-10-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
So again it comes down to complaint volume, not ip's and timestamps.

Exactly, the guy just changed his point, it still comes down to complaints. I mean shit, I have ip and time stamps for paysite members, that doesn't mean they opted in to get my e-mails.

Anyone who thinks a fucking double opt in newsletter isn't going to get a bunch of complaints when you have a million subscibers, you're nuts.

Kevlar · 04-10-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by GirlsFrehahahahas

That is exactly true, and is why soul is wrong. The major bandwidth providers are not tolerating spam as much as they used to. Also their are many many states adopting anti spam laws and enforcing them more then in the past. Spam will never completely go away, but it is definately getting much harder to get away with.

That's why you have to host overseas.

Kick Ass Chat · 04-10-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
yeah ok whatever

you equate doubleoptin lists with spam. How bright does this sound?

Actually I dont give a rats ass if you call it double opt in, or whatever....that doesnt matter 1 tiny bit. What matters is the complaints that come in from the mailings.....Thats is all that matters period............

If 50 complaints come in from a mailing, the providers dont care if that list was a "Double opt in" or a harvested list from a chat room. A complaint is a complaint period!!!

Kick Ass Chat · 04-10-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar

Exactly, the guy just changed his point, it still comes down to complaints. I mean shit, I have ip and time stamps for paysite members, that doesn't mean they opted in to get my e-mails.

Anyone who thinks a fucking double opt in newsletter isn't going to get a bunch of complaints when you have a million subscibers, you're nuts.

BINGO bro, thats exactly my point.

Theo · 04-10-2003, 09:08 PM

oh well as you wish, host abroad with Kevlar your double optin list.

NetRodent ask BigG regarding optin mailings if you are interested for your company. He has a good experience on this and you'll see from first hand. :-)

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04-10-2003, 07:15 PM	#1
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NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	I've heard that before about the ip and timestamp but it doesn't make sense. Its easy enough to fake that sort of information if one was inclined to. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

04-10-2003, 08:40 PM	#13
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	So again it comes down to complaint volume, not ip's and timestamps. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

04-10-2003, 07:30 PM	#2
Kick Ass Chat Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,057	No there anr no stable hosts that are hosting spammers. There is to much heat from providers, but if your doing some mailing somehow, add this to your list [email protected]

04-10-2003, 07:45 PM	#3
inthestars Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,021	I'm not a spammer. I have an adult website for sex tips and I wanted to start a mailing list.

04-10-2003, 08:30 PM	#10
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	An optin list comes with at least IP stamp, time and date for each email. If you have them, the majority of hosting co. will accept you as a client.

04-10-2003, 08:39 PM	#12
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if you fake them,youll get more complaints than you should and you'll get shut down. If you buy an optin list from another this scenario is more than possible. Trusting a 3rd part over this is like playing lotto. If you generate the list alone then you don't have to worry anything. Additionaly in order to make sure you'll avoid the idiots who will put the emails of people that hate, you go for a double optin list.

04-10-2003, 08:48 PM	#15
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	not exactly the point is that if you follow the pattern: doubleoptin/IP/date/time and you generate them alone you shouldn't get complaints and even if you get some, your host won't shut you down.

04-10-2003, 08:51 PM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	yeah ok whatever you equate doubleoptin lists with spam. How bright does this sound?

04-10-2003, 09:08 PM	#22
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	oh well as you wish, host abroad with Kevlar your double optin list. NetRodent ask BigG regarding optin mailings if you are interested for your company. He has a good experience on this and you'll see from first hand. :-)

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