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inthestars 04-10-2003 07:15 PM

hosting for a mailing list
 
Are there any companies that will host a mailing for an adult website?

Kick Ass Chat 04-10-2003 07:30 PM

No there anr no stable hosts that are hosting spammers. There is to much heat from providers, but if your doing some mailing somehow, add this to your list
[email protected]

inthestars 04-10-2003 07:45 PM

I'm not a spammer. I have an adult website for sex tips and I wanted to start a mailing list.

Kevlar 04-10-2003 07:48 PM

I can provide you with hosting that will not get shut down due to mailing. Contact me for more details, info in sig.

Wilbo 04-10-2003 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by inthestars
I'm not a spammer. I have an adult website for sex tips and I wanted to start a mailing list.
Any hosting company will host a legit opt-in list.

Kevlar 04-10-2003 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Wilbo


Any hosting company will host a legit opt-in list.

lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money. :thumbsup

Theo 04-10-2003 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar


lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money. :thumbsup

not true

Kick Ass Chat 04-10-2003 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar


lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money. :thumbsup

Exactly....Very true..

NetRodent 04-10-2003 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar


lol right, until two people forget they opted in an complain, and they shut you down and keep your money. :thumbsup

It takes a lot more than 2 complaints to get shutdown at most places.

Theo 04-10-2003 08:30 PM

An optin list comes with at least IP stamp, time and date for each email. If you have them, the majority of hosting co. will accept you as a client.

NetRodent 04-10-2003 08:33 PM

I've heard that before about the ip and timestamp but it doesn't make sense. Its easy enough to fake that sort of information if one was inclined to.

Theo 04-10-2003 08:39 PM

if you fake them,youll get more complaints than you should and you'll get shut down.

If you buy an optin list from another this scenario is more than possible. Trusting a 3rd part over this is like playing lotto. If you generate the list alone then you don't have to worry anything. Additionaly in order to make sure you'll avoid the idiots who will put the emails of people that hate, you go for a double optin list.

NetRodent 04-10-2003 08:40 PM

So again it comes down to complaint volume, not ip's and timestamps.

Kick Ass Chat 04-10-2003 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
I've heard that before about the ip and timestamp but it doesn't make sense. Its easy enough to fake that sort of information if one was inclined to.
That is exactly true, and is why soul is wrong. The major bandwidth providers are not tolerating spam as much as they used to. Also their are many many states adopting anti spam laws and enforcing them more then in the past. Spam will never completely go away, but it is definately getting much harder to get away with.

Theo 04-10-2003 08:48 PM

not exactly

the point is that if you follow the pattern:

doubleoptin/IP/date/time and you generate them alone you shouldn't get complaints and even if you get some, your host won't shut you down.

Theo 04-10-2003 08:51 PM

yeah ok whatever

you equate doubleoptin lists with spam. How bright does this sound?

Kick Ass Chat 04-10-2003 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
not exactly

the point is that if you follow the pattern:

doubleoptin/IP/date/time and you generate them alone you shouldn't get complaints and even if you get some, your host won't shut you down.

I will agree to your points about having better quality lists, time stamps and even working remove option. But really all of that is worthless. Hosts are now getting so much heat from their providers, that it just is not worth getting ip blocks shut off just for some idiot 29.95 a month spammer.

Kevlar 04-10-2003 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent
So again it comes down to complaint volume, not ip's and timestamps.
Exactly, the guy just changed his point, it still comes down to complaints. I mean shit, I have ip and time stamps for paysite members, that doesn't mean they opted in to get my e-mails.

Anyone who thinks a fucking double opt in newsletter isn't going to get a bunch of complaints when you have a million subscibers, you're nuts.

Kevlar 04-10-2003 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by GirlsFrehahahahas


That is exactly true, and is why soul is wrong. The major bandwidth providers are not tolerating spam as much as they used to. Also their are many many states adopting anti spam laws and enforcing them more then in the past. Spam will never completely go away, but it is definately getting much harder to get away with.

That's why you have to host overseas. :Graucho

Kick Ass Chat 04-10-2003 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
yeah ok whatever

you equate doubleoptin lists with spam. How bright does this sound?

Actually I dont give a rats ass if you call it double opt in, or whatever....that doesnt matter 1 tiny bit. What matters is the complaints that come in from the mailings.....Thats is all that matters period............

If 50 complaints come in from a mailing, the providers dont care if that list was a "Double opt in" or a harvested list from a chat room. A complaint is a complaint period!!!

Kick Ass Chat 04-10-2003 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by Kevlar


Exactly, the guy just changed his point, it still comes down to complaints. I mean shit, I have ip and time stamps for paysite members, that doesn't mean they opted in to get my e-mails.

Anyone who thinks a fucking double opt in newsletter isn't going to get a bunch of complaints when you have a million subscibers, you're nuts.

BINGO bro, thats exactly my point.:thumbsup

Theo 04-10-2003 09:08 PM

oh well as you wish, host abroad with Kevlar your double optin list.

NetRodent ask BigG regarding optin mailings if you are interested for your company. He has a good experience on this and you'll see from first hand. :-)

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