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polish_aristocrat · 04-10-2003, 03:20 PM

are you constantly able to maintain the requeired CTR if you state the price in your ad?

Darren · 04-10-2003, 03:27 PM

umm dont state price.

Outlandish · 04-10-2003, 03:30 PM

+3000 keywords and I have only faced under 0.7% twice!

It took some tweek but I managed to get above minimum

I do the search engine game for a living but a good advice would be that you take the low performers and make a special ad campaign for them...

test
test
and cash in!

p00p · 04-10-2003, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Outlandish
+3000 keywords and I have only faced under 0.7% twice!

It took some tweek but I managed to get above minimum

I do the search engine game for a living but a good advice would be that you take the low performers and make a special ad campaign for them...

test
test
and cash in!

Dude, you should give some advice on adwords. I am thinking of doing it, don't have a clue where to start.

Sorry for telling you to fuck off, and I don't think you are a loser. It was the beer talking.

polish_aristocrat · 04-10-2003, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Outlandish
+3000 keywords and I have only faced under 0.7% twice!

3000 keywords?
For one site or more?
If you run an campaing, how many ad groups do you use for it?

Quote:

test
test
and cash in!

that's a good advice when it comes to PPC SE's indeed.
Currently I do the PPC SE game on a very limited scale, but I like it.
It requeires marketing and not designer skills

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However, I just started with Ad Words few days ago I can say that's it's not easy to wotk with them and to maintaign the minimum CTR...
But apparently "not easy" doesn't mean impossible.

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 05:06 PM

whats the minimum CTR? Does it vary per keyword?

MikeXAMO · 04-10-2003, 05:59 PM

The minimum CTR varies per keyword depending on your competition on the keyword.

I'm no expert, but I think this is how it works.. or am I wrong?

Lethal · 04-10-2003, 06:04 PM

buy andrew goodman's report on it, well worth the money.

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Lethal
buy andrew goodman's report on it, well worth the money.

The civil rights guy?

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...s/Goodman.html

Lethal · 04-10-2003, 06:12 PM

you're a real winner

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oodman+adwords

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Lethal
you're a real winner

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oodman+adwords

no asshole... Im a loser

Lethal · 04-10-2003, 06:17 PM

ok sorry for the confusion

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 06:20 PM

...thanks for the Andrew Goodman tip though. Looks like a lot of good info there.

polish_aristocrat · 04-12-2003, 03:08 AM

I think the minimum CTR is 0.5%, unless you bid the highest bid and your site is dispalyed on Google's partner sites and there's the min. CTR of 1.0%.

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

3000 keywords?
For one site or more?
If you run an campaing, how many ad groups do you use for it?

3000 sound like alot?

I have over 30,000 highly targetted phrases on a new campaign I am testing and I'm not even 1/3rd of the way through.

polish_aristocrat · 04-12-2003, 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

3000 sound like alot?

I have over 30,000 highly targetted phrases on a new campaign I am testing and I'm not even 1/3rd of the way through.

how many "ad groups" do you run for one campaign ?

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

how many "ad groups" do you run for one campaign ?

I've used adwords somewhat recently with 4 to 10 ad groups. However, on the campaign I'm testing now I have 25 ad groups now and will have around 140 if I decide to let it run full speed.

30,000 may sound like alot but they are extremely targetted.

Just as an example here are some fabricated numbers.

Say I would get 1000 clicks a day with 3000 highly targetted phrases I am shooting for 1000 clicks a day with 30,000 extremely targetted words or phrases.

polish_aristocrat · 04-12-2003, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

Say I would get 1000 clicks a day with 3000 highly targetted phrases I am shooting for 1000 clicks a day with 30,000 extremely targetted words or phrases.

that's clever indeed

polish_aristocrat · 04-12-2003, 04:39 AM

but I'm sure you get lots of emails from the Ad Words staff everyday

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
but I'm sure you get lots of emails from the Ad Words staff everyday

0 so far why?

FlyingIguana · 04-12-2003, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
are you constantly able to maintain the requeired CTR if you state the price in your ad?

easily

i average around 1%

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

easily

i average around 1%

2.5 to 3% here on my test. 30 hours and running.

polish_aristocrat · 04-12-2003, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

0 so far why?

lots of my keywords get declined, f.e for Google the term "hot cheerleaders" isn't related to adult content and they disable it so that I get better results and more targetted visitors LOL

Manga1 · 04-12-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

lots of my keywords get declined, f.e for Google the term "hot cheerleaders" isn't related to adult content and they disable it so that I get better results and more targetted visitors LOL

A good way to know if it will get accepted is to see if other adult sites are advertising for that keyword/phrase. They're very picky about things like that and will break your balls a lot when you start out, but if you stick with adult terms you'll be ok, and after they get to know you they won't bother you as much anymore.

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

lots of my keywords get declined, f.e for Google the term "hot cheerleaders" isn't related to adult content and they disable it so that I get better results and more targetted visitors LOL

Can you mention what site you are promoting? How many keywords do you have now? If you let me know what direction you are trying to go in with advertising I can throw a few thousand keywords together in about 2 minutes.

Jon · 04-12-2003, 06:44 PM

I prefer regular listings over Adwords, get far more traffic..

p00p · 04-12-2003, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

Can you mention what site you are promoting? How many keywords do you have now? If you let me know what direction you are trying to go in with advertising I can throw a few thousand keywords together in about 2 minutes.

Stupid question...do you think it is possible to make money from adwords pushing unique adult sites with member areas?

Outlandish · 04-12-2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

Dude, you should give some advice on adwords. I am thinking of doing it, don't have a clue where to start.

Sorry for telling you to fuck off, and I don't think you are a loser. It was the beer talking.

The +3000 is for two sites of my own. (overall lost count!!!!)

I have several hundred campaigns because like you say its all marketing and I like to get the most clicks out of google adwords

but hit me up on [email protected] if you deciede to go for it...

normal I charge my clients but this is GFY so its free

Outlandish · 04-12-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

Stupid question...do you think it is possible to make money from adwords pushing unique adult sites with member areas?

hehe not stupid if you listen to all the horror stories of people trying adwords for the first time

YES it is possible to hit jackpot!

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

Stupid question...do you think it is possible to make money from adwords pushing unique adult sites with member areas?

I have used adwords only lightly for free webcam sponsors and had a decent return. I took it offline to optimize it a bit more and target better.

Unique sites should do good if you get highly targetted keywords. I'm actually getting around a 4% ctr on mine right now and all my bids are only 5 cents because I targetted about as much as you can in bulk. If you wanna run a test email me and let me know what site you are pushing and I'll see if I can throw some keyword combos together. I have 30k keywords right now and I only get around 200 clicks per day on a 4% ctr. You could throw a few bucks at it to test it out.

p00p · 04-12-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Outlandish

The +3000 is for two sites of my own. (overall lost count!!!!)

I have several hundred campaigns because like you say its all marketing and I like to get the most clicks out of google adwords

but hit me up on [email protected] if you deciede to go for it...

normal I charge my clients but this is GFY so its free

Thanks! I am from the day when you could make 1000 pages, submit them to Alta Vista, and get traffic the next day. I want to try adwords, but don't want to spend $1000's screwing up all the time.

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Outlandish

The +3000 is for two sites of my own. (overall lost count!!!!)

I have several hundred campaigns because like you say its all marketing and I like to get the most clicks out of google adwords

but hit me up on [email protected] if you deciede to go for it...

normal I charge my clients but this is GFY so its free

haha, if you're charging customers maybe I should charge you to show you how to target more and get a higher ctr with tons of keywords that are targetted as much as possible.

Outlandish · 04-12-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

Thanks! I am from the day when you could make 1000 pages, submit them to Alta Vista, and get traffic the next day. I want to try adwords, but don't want to spend $1000's screwing up all the time.

hehe the gold old days

feel free to hit me up...

btw altavista is my bitch... it still possible to beat em just take a lot longer to get indexed

Outlandish · 04-12-2003, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

haha, if you're charging customers maybe I should charge you to show you how to target more and get a higher ctr with tons of keywords that are targetted as much as possible.

I charge ppl for running marketing, getting traffic to sites, placement of sites in search engines, etc. but perhaps I should take your offer in the spirit of GFY

stocktrader23 · 04-12-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Outlandish

I charge ppl for running marketing, getting traffic to sites, placement of sites in search engines, etc. but perhaps I should take your offer in the spirit of GFY

I'm just messing around, I'm sure you do great with them. I saw you said Alta Vista is your bitch. What kind of traffic can you expect from a top rank on popular terms and do they convert as good as others? I noticed a few things to get the pages up up up on Alta Vista also.

Outlandish · 04-12-2003, 07:48 PM

to be honest the traffic I get from altavista is okay but not as good as back... you know the old same yada!

I still find google traffic the best but altavista is worth the hazzle. what I like the most is the altavista placements stay longer on top for me... (less work..hehe)

also some of the webmaster related keywords Im placed high on converts VERY VERY good!

Altavista can send good amounts of traffic on more popular keywords!

04-10-2003, 03:20 PM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	to Google Ad Words advertisers are you constantly able to maintain the requeired CTR if you state the price in your ad? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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04-10-2003, 03:30 PM	#3
Outlandish Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Guantanamo Bay Posts: 18	+3000 keywords and I have only faced under 0.7% twice! It took some tweek but I managed to get above minimum I do the search engine game for a living but a good advice would be that you take the low performers and make a special ad campaign for them... test test and cash in! __________________ Life is a loom!

04-10-2003, 05:06 PM	#6
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04-10-2003, 05:59 PM	#7
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04-10-2003, 06:04 PM	#8
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	buy andrew goodman's report on it, well worth the money.

04-10-2003, 06:12 PM	#10
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	you're a real winner http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...oodman+adwords

04-10-2003, 06:17 PM	#12
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	ok sorry for the confusion

04-10-2003, 06:20 PM	#13
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	...thanks for the Andrew Goodman tip though. Looks like a lot of good info there. __________________ Needs some really great hosting? Black Seven note: I do not work for Blackseven... Im just grateful for their kick ass hosting...so quit bothering them when I hurt your feelings... pussy

04-12-2003, 03:08 AM	#14
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I think the minimum CTR is 0.5%, unless you bid the highest bid and your site is dispalyed on Google's partner sites and there's the min. CTR of 1.0%. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

04-12-2003, 04:39 AM	#19
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	but I'm sure you get lots of emails from the Ad Words staff everyday __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

04-12-2003, 06:44 PM	#26
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04-12-2003, 07:48 PM	#36
Outlandish Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Guantanamo Bay Posts: 18	to be honest the traffic I get from altavista is okay but not as good as back... you know the old same yada! I still find google traffic the best but altavista is worth the hazzle. what I like the most is the altavista placements stay longer on top for me... (less work..hehe) also some of the webmaster related keywords Im placed high on converts VERY VERY good! Altavista can send good amounts of traffic on more popular keywords! __________________ Life is a loom!