Trump plans to import Russian oil to the USA

[Barry-xlovecam]

Are Comrade Putin and Emperor Trump planning an oil alliance to replace OPEC's US exports toward deleveraging their respective Middle East entanglements?

[crockett]

Honestly, we should be at war with OPEC, because they are at war with everyone else. They are nothing more than a criminal group which sole purpose is to price fix.

I'd have nothing aginst working with Russia to take down OPEC.

[Rochard]

Why would the US need to import oil from Russia? The US is now one of the world's largest producers of oil.

This is where Trump's problems begin. He wants to put Rex Tillerson in as the Secretary of State, and his former position was with Exxon and he is very friendly to Russia. Suddenly the State Department wants to import oil from Russia? Why? Is this really the first priority of the Secretary of State?

[mineistaken]

crockett spits some objective thoughts instead of blindly agreeing with op. Rare occasion

[Bladewire]

Putin always goes back on his word, this is one, of a few, reasons why he's admonished by the international community.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

crockett spits some objective thoughts instead of blindly agreeing with op. Rare occasion

Its just a rare occasion that anyone from the right does anything worth agreeing on. I also agree with Rochard as well.

Meanwhile, I've not seen you ever say anything Obama did was good..

It seems Trump is more worried about us making deals with Russia than he is worried about working with our own govt..

[SantaClause]

Don't forget that the new secretary of state was the ceo of the biggest US oil company and a good friend of Putin.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would the US need to import oil from Russia? The US is now one of the world's largest producers of oil.

This is where Trump's problems begin. He wants to put Rex Tillerson in as the Secretary of State, and his former position was with Exxon and he is very friendly to Russia. Suddenly the State Department wants to import oil from Russia? Why? Is this really the first priority of the Secretary of State?

Comrade Putin and Emperor Trump want out of the Middle East?

It's a long shot theory -- let's see if it makes any news :OD

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Putin always goes back on his word, this is one, of a few, reasons why he's admonished by the international community.

Trump+Putin = 2 peas in a pod

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by SantaClause

Don't forget that the new secretary of state was the ceo of the biggest US oil company and a good friend of Putin.

Yes the coveted, and rarely awarded, Russian Order of Friendship medal awarded him in 2013 after signing a huge deal with Exxon.

The thing that sucks is Russians are awesom, it's Putin causing all this animosity with the world.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would the US need to import oil from Russia? The US is now one of the world's largest producers of oil.

This is where Trump's problems begin. He wants to put Rex Tillerson in as the Secretary of State, and his former position was with Exxon and he is very friendly to Russia. Suddenly the State Department wants to import oil from Russia? Why? Is this really the first priority of the Secretary of State?

Hmmm...

Let's think about this a second. With Rex in charge, he might do some shifty government stuff to help Exxon. He will exit Exxon with $180 Mil, but he might still be involved in it the way Cheney was with Haliburton.

Trump is besties with Poot.

Poot is besties with Rex.

The US produces a shit-ton of fossil fuel energy, as does Russa.

Does Poot own any stock in Exxon? Maybe.

What would be the end-game here? If Exxon were to somehow able to gobble up all of the fossil fuel spots in the US, that would benefit Trump, The Pooter, and Rex. But this seems kind of boring because doesn't Exxon already own most of it?

If there was some kind of crazy oil power-play about to go down, what could it be?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Comrade Putin and Emperor Trump want out of the Middle East?

It's a long shot theory -- let's see if it makes any news :OD

I'm all for us getting out of the Middle East. Fuck them, they want to be left alone to return to the status of Africa, then who am I to judge. The only reason the MI is of any importance to the world is oil and fucked up religions..

I say fuck their oil and any dumb fuckers that want to believe in religious BS can go there and die.. Christians, Muslims I don't give a fuck, the rest of us sane people can wash our hands of that disaster.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

If there was some kind of crazy oil power-play about to go down, what could it be?

Exxon is heading back to the Arctic once Russia sanctions are lifted

Exxon is losing $1B a year with their Russia operation due to sanctions.

Exxon successfully lobbied for legislation last year that enables the Secretary of State to lift Russia sanctions (soon to be Tillerson)
ExxonMobil helped defeat Russia sanctions bill

The Exxon arctic deal to drill for Russia is worth $500B.

Exxon is a multinational corporation with its own foreign policy division etc. it hasn't been a true blue American company for decades.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hmmm...

Let's think about this a second. With Rex in charge, he might do some shifty government stuff to help Exxon. He will exit Exxon with $180 Mil, but he might still be involved in it the way Cheney was with Haliburton.

Trump is besties with Poot.

Poot is besties with Rex.

The US produces a shit-ton of fossil fuel energy, as does Russa.

Does Poot own any stock in Exxon? Maybe.

What would be the end-game here? If Exxon were to somehow able to gobble up all of the fossil fuel spots in the US, that would benefit Trump, The Pooter, and Rex. But this seems kind of boring because doesn't Exxon already own most of it?

If there was some kind of crazy oil power-play about to go down, what could it be?

trump and putin have not even met ever, as far as i know. Yet sure, they are besties.

[Gossha]

Russia never lost the Cold War... because it never ended.
Vladimir Putin quotes

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Gossha

Russia never lost the Cold War... because it never ended.
Vladimir Putin quotes

That's would be like Germans saying they never really lost WW2 because Germany is still a country with a different govt..

The USSR collapsed and fell apart. It's still broken up and the ex foes of the USSR now work with some of those ex soviet states but not with others who choose to continue on being commies. The entire reason Russia is still a foe of the west, is because Russia choose to remain a commie state with a defacto dictatorship which attempts to carry on as it were the former USSR.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

trump and putin have not even met ever, as far as i know. Yet sure, they are besties.

Come now, don't ignore what I said.. Lets hears a single fucking "serious" thing you think Obama did right. You love to pick apart everyone else then complain if they never say anything good about "your guys".

Man up and tell us something "serious" Obama did right, policy wise.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by crockett

Honestly, we should be at war with OPEC, because they are at war with everyone else. They are nothing more than a criminal group which sole purpose is to price fix.

I'd have nothing aginst working with Russia to take down OPEC.

Yeah, fuck them for looking out for themselves and not letting oil greedy nations drain them dry for a nickel.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Yeah, fuck them for looking out for themselves and not letting oil greedy nations drain them dry for a nickel.

They have a product we use.. They need buyers but if we can source the product elsewhere, why fall victim to an organized racket and pricing scheme?

[oppoten]

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by crockett

They have a product we use.. They need buyers but if we can source the product elsewhere, why fall victim to an organized racket and pricing scheme?

Why do you shop at Walmart or order from Amazon?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by crockett

Come now, don't ignore what I said.. Lets hears a single fucking "serious" thing you think Obama did right. You love to pick apart everyone else then complain if they never say anything good about "your guys".

Man up and tell us something "serious" Obama did right, policy wise.

wtf? I quoted mark's statement about emperor and pitin being besties and stated they did not even meet. You came out of nowhere with off topic rant. lol

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

wtf? I quoted mark's statement about emperor and pitin being besties and stated they did not even meet. You came out of nowhere with off topic rant. lol

You don't know if Trump has ever met Putin? Trump said he's met Putin, they were "stable mates". After it was evident that being friends with Putin wasn't helping him, he backtracked

First Trump says he's met Putin and they're friends, then he says he's never met him






Then he says he doesn't wanna say if he's met Putin

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

wtf? I quoted mark's statement about emperor and pitin being besties and stated they did not even meet. You came out of nowhere with off topic rant. lol

NO... You said:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

crockett spits some objective thoughts instead of blindly agreeing with op. Rare occasion

I refuted your comment and asked you to do the same and say something Obama did well. You ignored it, so I hit you with it again.

Say something you think Obama did well policy wise. You can't do it can you? Is your hate is too much?

[Rochard]

At this point I am seriously wondering if Trump is a Russian spy.

Where is his wife from again?

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would the US need to import oil from Russia? The US is now one of the world's largest producers of oil.

This is where Trump's problems begin. He wants to put Rex Tillerson in as the Secretary of State, and his former position was with Exxon and he is very friendly to Russia. Suddenly the State Department wants to import oil from Russia? Why? Is this really the first priority of the Secretary of State?

Because they're all going to make money personally from this. Now we see the pieces falling into place. The denial of Russian attacks, the appointment of Rex Tillerson. It's another con by the master con man.

[bronco67]

All of this really stinks, and half of America wants to bury their head in the sand.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Why do you shop at Walmart or order from Amazon?

I rarely order from Amazon and I don't buy much from walmart. I'm not a "big" consumer buying lots of needles things. Usually if I'm buying something it's consumables like food, clothing.. well I'm in the clothing biz so I manage to keep the best items for myself and sell the rest.

I don't buy new phones every year or a new laptops and most of those kind of things I buy used from CL or other sources to resell and I tend to keep items from time to time when I need a replacement or want something new.

Honestly, I just don't "buy" that much new stuff from stores. I'm a pretty savvy shopper when I do.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by crockett

The USSR collapsed and fell apart. It's still broken up and the ex foes of the USSR now work with some of those ex soviet states but not with others who choose to continue on being commies.

The Cold War was ended in December of 1989 (Malta Summit). You Americans, just don't learn the World's history and that's your problem. I bet that 99% of your population belives that Hitler was defeated by the USA and the US flag was hoisted over the Reichstag in 1945. The same 99% of Americans really believe they have won the Space Race

Now let me give you a small historical lesson. The Soviet Union has collapsed from the inside and there were two reasons for that:

1) The Russian people got tired of commies and voted against the leading role of Communist Party in Soviet Union. So this declaration was removed from the Constitution in March of 1990. Note, it was a very democratic act - the commies have returned the power to the people, and they officially stopped to rule the country since that time. If I was a president, I would forbid the commies at all (I always just hated their regime).

2) Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk dissolved the Soviet Union in December of 1991 (Belavezha Accords) and all Soviet republics, including Russia of course, have got their independence. Personally I believe that was a super cool event!

I don't understand who has "won" the Cold War, when and how exactly??? The Soviet Army has been renamed to the Russian Army, all weapons, technologies etc have not dissolved or gone anywhere, they all still here (furthermore, our Army modernizes... e.g. "Satan-2" ICBM was announced). We are still a super power and our Amy is not inferior in strength to NATO or any other military organization on planet Earth.

So what has changed? The commie ideology has gone and Russia does not need to feed all those post Soviet republics anymore? I don't see anything bad in these changed.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Are Comrade Putin and Emperor Trump planning an oil alliance to replace OPEC's US exports toward deleveraging their respective Middle East entanglements?

It will be good deal! and big money!

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why would the US need to import oil from Russia? The US is now one of the world's largest producers of oil.

This is where Trump's problems begin. He wants to put Rex Tillerson in as the Secretary of State, and his former position was with Exxon and he is very friendly to Russia. Suddenly the State Department wants to import oil from Russia? Why? Is this really the first priority of the Secretary of State?

How you will be liberate Saudi Arabia and buy oil from him?
USA National debt can't wait long.

[onwebcam]

You libs are fucking hilarious. Complaining because we might buy oil from Russia? News flash: we/you already do, to the tune of 10-15 thousands barrels a month. In fact Russian oil imports have been at it's highest levels during Obama admin. Would you prefer we keep getting from and bankrolling ISIS?

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le..._NUS-NRS_1&f=M

Again, I guess Obama is a Russian Plant/Spy..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

We are still a super power and our Amy is not inferior in strength to NATO or any other military organization.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You libs are fucking hilarious. Complaining because we might buy oil from Russia? News flash: we/you already do, to the tune of 10-15 thousands barrels a month. Would you prefer we keep getting from and bankrolling ISIS?

You defend Russia in every thread over every topic you are definitely a Russia troll

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Just read the article. I'll tell you a secret. Russia needs about 30-40 minutes to totally and guaranteed eliminate our planet. Not just London or NYC, but a whole planet including Australia and Antarctica. Think about it.

P.S. As the RVSN guys say: "Nobody after us!" ;)

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You defend Russia in every thread over every topic you are definitely a Russia troll

I don't start the Russian threads, you whining libs do. Russia conducts counter espionage, but guess what? So do we.. Did Russia have a preference in the election? Of course, Putin hates Hillary and rightly so. Do we and will we continue to buy Russian oil? Yes, and you better hope so if you'd like the dollar to continue to be the preferred currency in crude exchanges.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Just read the article. I'll tell you a secret. Russia needs about 30-40 minutes to totally and guaranteed eliminate our planet. Not just London or NYC, but a whole planet including Australia and Antarctica. Think about it.

P.S. As the RVSN guys say: "Nobody after us!" ;)

I just think it's cute when Americans & Russians get their dicks out and compare

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I don't start the Russian threads, you whining libs do. Russia conducts counter espionage, but guess what? So do we.. Did Russia have a preference in the election? Of course, Putin hates Hillary and rightly so. Do we and will we continue to buy Russian oil? Yes, and you better hope so if you'd like the dollar to continue to be the preferred currency in crude exchanges.

You know I'm not a liberal, and I call you on your shit. You defend Putin at every turn, on every topic without fail. If you had any kind of Putin decension, on any of his topics, you wouldn't be a Putin troll.

You follow lock stock & barrel with Putin on every topic, he can do no wrong. You are a Putin troll, comrad

Tenessee & Russia are one

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I just think it's cute when Americans & Russians get their dicks out and compare

Nobody is trying to compare the dick sizes here. I've just told you that Russian Army is no way weaker than NATO and in case of WWIII there will be no winner - doesn't matter how much your tax payers pay to military spending...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I've just told you that Russian army is not way weaker than NATO and in case of WWIII there will be no winner - dorsn't matter how much your tax payers pay to military spending...

Who cares?

We want to be friends with America and we can destroy the planet in 30 minutes STFU dude

With friends like Putin you don't need enemies , proven time & time again

As you know, Trump does not represent the majority of Americans and we enjoy watching Putin force Trump to degrade himself and will enjoy watching Putin bitch slap him around.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

As you know, Trump does not represent the majority of Americans

That's because you still have no direct voting system - your personal vote just doesn't count. Dude, in the 21th century!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

The Cold War was ended in December of 1989 (Malta Summit). You Americans, just don't learn the World's history and that's your problem. I bet that 99% of your population belives that Hitler was defeated by the USA and the US flag was hoisted over the Reichstag in 1945. The same 99% of Americans really believe they have won the Space Race

Now let me give you a small historical lesson. The Soviet Union has collapsed from the inside and there were two reasons for that:

1) The Russian people got tired of commies and have voted against of the leading role of Communist Party in Soviet Union. So this declaration was removed from the Constitution in March of 1990. Note, it was a very democratic act - the commies have returned the power to the people, they officially stopped to rule the country since that time. If I was a president, I would forbid the commies at all (I just hated their regime).

2) Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk dissolved the Soviet Union in December of 1991 (Belavezha Accords) and all Soviet republics, including Russia of course, have got their independence. Personally I believe that was a super cool event!

I don't understand who has "won" the Cold War, when and how exactly??? The Soviet Army has been renamed to the Russian Army, all weapons, technologies etc have not dissolved or gone anywhere, they all still here (furthermore, our Army modernizes... e.g. "Satan-2" ICBM was announced). We are still a super power and our Amy is not inferior in strength to NATO or any other military organization on planet Earth.

So what has changed? The commie ideology has gone and Russia does not need to feed all those post Soviet republics anymore? I don't see anything bad in these changed.

Most of your military was dissolved and troops were not paid. Guys like Putin got rich because they stole and sold EX USSR weapons and property and sold it. They tried selling submarines to drug dealers for fucks sake, it was a free for all.

Russia it's self has rebuilt, but as a defacto dictatorship. Putin has made sure he will never lose an election as if you had a choice. Putin wants a cold war again, because it keeps him in power. As long as Putin is in power it means he gets richer.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crockett

Most of your military was dissolved and troops were not paid. Guys like Putin got rich because they stole and sold EX USSR weapons and property and sold it. They tried selling submarines to drug dealers for fucks sake.

Russia it's self has rebuilt, but as a defacto dictatorship. Putin has made sure he will never lose an election as if you had a choice. Putin wants a cold war again, because it keeps him in power.

But who helped him with it? )) Where placed money which stolen? Who is his accomplice?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by crockett

Most of your military was dissolved and troops were not paid.

Dissolved, really? And one more secret for you: our troops don't get paid at all ;)

Originally Posted by crockett

Guys like Putin got rich because they stole and sold EX USSR weapons and property and sold it. They tried selling submarines to drug dealers for fucks sake.

Whaaaat?

Originally Posted by crockett

Russia it's self has rebuilt, but as a defacto dictatorship. Putin has made sure he will never lose an election as if you had a choice. Putin wants a cold war again, because it keeps him in power.

New cold war was started not by Putin. It was started by the USA. Just open your eyes, dude:



Now show me at least one Russian military base near the USA. You must lost your mind if you blame Putin - the guy who has closed our military base on Cuba and provided to the States the base in Central Asia, when you guys were trying to catch Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Most of your military was dissolved and troops were not paid. Guys like Putin got rich because they stole and sold EX USSR weapons and property and sold it. They tried selling submarines to drug dealers for fucks sake, it was a free for all.

Russia it's self has rebuilt, but as a defacto dictatorship. Putin has made sure he will never lose an election as if you had a choice. Putin wants a cold war again, because it keeps him in power. As long as Putin is in power it means he gets richer.

Ssshhhh CyberSEO thinks he votes and it counts

I like CyberSEO & Russians in general, not Putin though, he's giving bitter taste to the world in the name of Russia very sad.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Now show me at least one Russian military base near the USA. You must lost your mind if you blame Putin in this.

USA military coming to russian borders today.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA military coming to russian borders today.

I know. Blame Putin for that

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ssshhhh CyberSEO thinks he votes and it counts

And what's funny here? In contrast to you, my personal vote does count. During the last presidential elections in Russia, Putin has got 63% and that's a fair figure. I know that the majority really supports Putin and over a half or Russians voted for him. Obviously I'm not among these 63%. However I have no illusions and know that I'm in the minority among the rest 37% who don't support Putin.

So I don't see a reason for your fun about it. We have a direct voting system in Russia and I'm absolutely sure that my vote was counted. The USA have no direct voting system and that's also a well-known fact. Don't see a reason to argue on that.

[klinton]

oh come on. The only vote right that Russians had back in 1986,1988 or 1989 was the right to vote who will be the first in that huge line for meat or toilet paper.
USSR fell apart because of economic pressure, thats it. it all went to shit and started falling apart in early 80s because of falling oil prices and US military programs that were too expensive for USSR to do...and they tried to do it anyway, so they ruined the country even more.
and yeah bump for your plugin ! and off to bed

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

1) The Russian people got tired of commies and voted against the leading role of Communist Party in Soviet Union. So this declaration was removed from the Constitution in March of 1990. Note, it was a very democratic act - the commies have returned the power to the people, and they officially stopped to rule the country since that time. If I was a president, I would forbid the commies at all (I always just hated their regime).

[klinton]

did you vote for Zyuganov or Zhirinovsky ;-)?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

And what's funny there? In contrast to you, my personal vote does count. During the last presidential elections in Russia, Putin has got 63% and that's a fair figure. I know that the majority really supports Putin and they voted for him. Unfortunately I'm not among these 63% and I didn't vote for him. However I have no illusions and know that I'm in the minority - I'm one of the rest 37%.

[klinton]

Germany, Romania and Poland are NATO members are and US soldiers were invited by their governments...so, to quote words of some Russian minister when he was asked about puting nuclear missiles near NATO borders - it's not NATO interest where we put our army inside our borders
:-)

its all bout moving money here and there by military industrial complex on both sides, open conflict between NATO and Russia would be a suicide for this planet and humanity, so peace

Originally Posted by Sarn

USA military coming to russian borders today.