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Old 04-09-2003, 04:10 PM   #51
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be careful - it might be possible that they redirect your traffic while you explore your options
Lol. I'm not too worried about that. That would be the quickest way to get the spider to drop all of their galleries in one shot. ;>
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:10 PM   #52
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did you hear the other side of the story yet?
You mean this one:
"This was all amicable, and not our decision, but here's why we did it..." ? It sounds like the only reason LS gave wasn't quite what happened. Though I guess it's always a mixture of things.
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:11 PM   #54
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"wouldn't treat my worst enemy that way and I hope you change your mind. A common sense approach would be to send the traffic to Nina's affiliate program when she gets it running and send it to your affiliate code. Simply ripping her site from your servers and stealing traffic that was going to Nina is wrong. Handle this matter as business and get over the personal problems you have with her. There is no excuse for fucking somone that bad regardless of the situation and if that is what you choose to do may it come back in bite you in the ass. "


having been one fucked that bad I know what that's like....

Steve- we have mended our fences...but I disagree with you on this.

Nina is her own person at this point I would assume she is mildly upset...and I would recommend that you both come to an amicable solution over this before it gets messy

I have to unfortunately get very messy with someone stealing from me now...and they were FRIENDS...

Red SHow as they also say in the greatest movie of all time...

"keep your friends close......and your enemies closer"

But in my case and in the case of COLLEGEFUCKFEST

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I think Nina has a little Hymen in her too no?




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Old 04-09-2003, 04:12 PM   #55
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ever heard of a contract agreement?


You are new to this huh...
Who givs a fuck about the contract...

Didn't your mom ever teach you anything? You open the doors, not slam them in their faces...

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Old 04-09-2003, 04:13 PM   #56
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I have been less than pleased with Lightspeed Cash?s performance for some time and while discussing my options for leaving, Lightspeed has made the decision to shut down my site by Friday (giving me 3 days to move and set up processing) and to take my members database away, leaving me with zero income.

I had hoped we could come to a friendly agreement and part in the best way possible; unfortunately this is not the case.

I want to thank all of the affiliates who have sent me traffic and apologize for any inconvenience this split may cause you. If you have any questions feel free to contact me via email or icq.

I assure everyone that my site will thrive and to continue to be a big part of the online adult industry. I am excited for the future of ninaknowsbest.com.

Does anyone know Nina's ICQ?
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:14 PM   #57
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:15 PM   #58
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Who givs a fuck about the contract...

that's a good one


that will be the first thing i say if repo men ever show on my doorstep
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:17 PM   #59
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that's a good one


that will be the first thing i say if repo men ever show on my doorstep
When they came to my house I served milk and cookies
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:25 PM   #60
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Well it seems like there are so many heavy hitters looking to help Nina out, that I'm not sure I could be of comparitively significant help. But I do feel bad about this situation. It's very stupid.

I do have a few insights that might help Nina transcend porn land a little more after the smoke clears. And if there is anything I can do tech wise I'd be glad to lend a hand for a couple of days.
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:25 PM   #61
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This is really fucked up.


Sorry to hear that nina.


Things will get better.
Great to see people showing support to you.
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:26 PM   #62
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Nina is the master of playing "pity poor me" -- that's how she found her way to Lightspeedcash in the first place.

I have exhausted every effort to try to make Nina happy, and to get her to fulfill her contractual obligation.

Her solution was "why don't you just be a nice guy and let me go 4 months early"

I have not closed her site, nor have I withheld any money owed her. However I don't see it as fair that I have spent my time and money building her traffic and popularity so that she can skip away with everything, leaving me with refunds, chargebacks, and a lot of pissed of affiliates.

If Nina truly "knows best" -- she would learn the value of honoring a contract. This is not the first time she has left a sponsor high and dry. She refused every effort at negotation, so I have given her until the end of the week to move her site.

I would prefer all these details not be public rumor-fodder -- believe me I'm a bigger Ninaknowsbest fan than anyone. I'm sorry it ends this way, I tried to salvage it.

KB -- remember bro, there's two sides to every story, and sometimes things are not always what they seem. I did not fire her, she quit, and without giving a good reason.

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Old 04-09-2003, 04:32 PM   #63
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If Nina truly "knows best" -- she would learn the value of honoring a contract. This is not the first time she has left a sponsor high and dry.
Sounds to me kinda like the guy who steals the wife of a friend and bitches when she leaves him for his
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:33 PM   #64
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No, your solution was to let her "skip away" with NOTHING.

And then to take potshots at her on the boards.

And then give her 3 days to move and setup new processing.

Classy.

Go and grow some business ethics. You know that you are allowed to deal in porn and still have them, right?
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:38 PM   #66
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KB -- remember bro, there's two sides to every story, and sometimes things are not always what they seem. I did not fire her, she quit, and without giving a good reason.

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True. I agree with you whole heartedly.
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It seems odd to go from "your contract says 4 more months" to "be gone in 3 days". Was there no way to make things work for the remaining 4 months?
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No, your solution was to let her "skip away" with NOTHING.

And then to take potshots at her on the boards.

And then give her 3 days to move and setup new processing.

Classy.

Go and grow some business ethics. You know that you are allowed to deal in porn and still have them, right?

Yeah, that's right, I've spent 4 years growing Lightspeedcash into a company renowned for honesty and integrity, and I *suddenly* decide to change my policy with Nina. RIGHT.

I'll let my history in the biz speak for itself. I did not choose this path for Nina.
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Sorry to hear that Nina.... If there is anything you need, or just someone to "sound" off of...hit me up on ICQ.

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To every story, there are three sides. His, hers, and the truth somewhere in between. We have heard only part of each side's story in this, and don't have much access to the rest of the story. I don't think of either Lightspeed or Nina as being dishonest, unscrupulous, or cheats. Something happened, though, and it is a real shame.
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It seems odd to go from "your contract says 4 more months" to "be gone in 3 days". Was there no way to make things work for the remaining 4 months?
Because She QUIT Lightspeed said.

Look I Like Nina like the rest of you, and I also Like the Lightspeed crew and programs. Why don't all of you stay the fuck out of all of their business???..... I'm sure neither of them want to keep having their personnal businesses aired on a message board???
Both sides have already posted, and they have said what they wanted to. Stop making more of it then their really is.....geesh don't any of you have lives??? or a business to run??... Nina is no longer with Lightspeed !!! end of story.
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I have seen some big programs pick up some sites, offer them to there webmaster base, and then later on have us pull the links

CE has done this with a few sites - and nobody cared
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Because She QUIT Lightspeed said.

Look I Like Nina like the rest of you, and I also Like the Lightspeed crew and programs. Why don't all of you stay the fuck out of all of their business???..... I'm sure neither of them want to keep having their personnal businesses aired on a message board???
Both sides have already posted, and they have said what they wanted to. Stop making more of it then their really is.....geesh don't any of you have lives??? or a business to run??... Nina is no longer with Lightspeed !!! end of story.
Move on
you do realize what message board you're posting on right?
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Shitty situation whatever the "Total truth may be"

Wish the best for Nina and all parties involved.
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I should point out that this is my personal opinion - I flame stuff like this reflexively and my biz partners don't always agree with me.

In this case this is just my opinion, not that of Spotbrokers.
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I should point out that this is my personal opinion - I flame stuff like this reflexively and my biz partners don't always agree with me.

In this case this is just my opinion, not that of Spotbrokers.
Me too. My opinion has nothing to do with Spotbrokers either.
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Because She QUIT Lightspeed said.

Look I Like Nina like the rest of you, and I also Like the Lightspeed crew and programs. Why don't all of you stay the fuck out of all of their business???..... I'm sure neither of them want to keep having their personnal businesses aired on a message board???
Both sides have already posted, and they have said what they wanted to. Stop making more of it then their really is.....geesh don't any of you have lives??? or a business to run??... Nina is no longer with Lightspeed !!! end of story.
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On a related note:

I am looking for galleries to replace Lightspeedcash's soon to be deleted hosted galleries.

If you can fill the same niches as him, I want to talk to you.

Cheers,
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Our program isn't quite as big as yours, but I am in the process of dumping them from ours as well. Low blow.

Best of luck Nina. I'm sure you'll be standing on your own real soon
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Because She QUIT Lightspeed said.

Look I Like Nina like the rest of you, and I also Like the Lightspeed crew and programs. Why don't all of you stay the fuck out of all of their business???..... I'm sure neither of them want to keep having their personnal businesses aired on a message board???
Both sides have already posted, and they have said what they wanted to. Stop making more of it then their really is.....geesh don't any of you have lives??? or a business to run??... Nina is no longer with Lightspeed !!! end of story.
Move on
Truthe be TOLD it's still great PR for both of them.........

Shit while we are at it has anyone signed up for TRIPLEXCASH.COM yet?


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Incredibly lame.

Lightspeed, what a class act.

(adds them to the list)

I've ICQed you Nina, with an offer of assistance in a few ways as well. Sucks to be FUCKED OVER.

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Yep I knew there was more to it.

Good for you Backov. what goes around usually comes around. I've been in business longer than most of you are old and learned sometime ago don't burn your bridges, but shit it took me along time to learn. What I've seen in the porn business they don't even have a fucking bridge to burn, and they just keep coming and going. And don't have a clue why they are gone.
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Me too. My opinion has nothing to do with Spotbrokers either.
Bizarrely, my opinions reflect the views of Spotbrokers exactly. ;)
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Well I guess I pissed someone off on here for making a joke. I apologize for making a joke outta the situation. Best of luck :-)

Whoever that person who called my house...really needs to seek therapy. lol
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Good point -- lots of people will be waiting for a response from Lightspeed... this is baaaaaaaaaad
I would say so. I'm fucking laughing, not at you TheFly nor you Nina.

Nina you are one cool lady VERY cool and VERY VERY fucking smart. Kick some fucking ass kid...

Good luck HotShot..
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Our program isn't quite as big as yours, but I am in the process of dumping them from ours as well. Low blow.
I am planning to post ONCE in this thread and be done with it. Personally I think alot of you could make the same decision and have a much better day.

Let me point out to all of you that Backov has already noted this to be his personal opinion. Spotbrokers is not, and will not, be in the business of getting in the middle of issues between partners and or contractors of other companies.

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Old 04-09-2003, 05:15 PM   #88
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that sucks nina your were a real swetheart at the forum last week. hope everything works out....and of course if you need a place to stay hit me up.
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:17 PM   #89
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be careful - it might be possible that they redirect your traffic while you explore your options
now that would be down right stupid. But?
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:20 PM   #90
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ever heard of a contract agreement?


You are new to this huh...
nope I don't think your getting it.. Just watch this board and matybe you will. Oh a contract agreement is not everything, believe me. Word of mouth is the best advertiseing you can get and guess what else it is?
I should have added, the porn business is very big, and also very small.
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:20 PM   #91
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now that would be down right stupid. But?
OK for fucks sake, two posts. But only because the idea of Lightspeed redirectly affiliate traffic for any reason other than out and out fraud is so fucking ridiculous I can't believe anyone suggested it other than as a joke.

I've known Steve Lightspeed for a long time. I don't see that it's my personal business what's going on between him and a partner or an employee or whatever since I do not work there or own a piece of it. I guess other people don't see it that way, which is a shame.
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:23 PM   #92
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Because She QUIT Lightspeed said.

Look I Like Nina like the rest of you, and I also Like the Lightspeed crew and programs. Why don't all of you stay the fuck out of all of their business???..... I'm sure neither of them want to keep having their personnal businesses aired on a message board???
Both sides have already posted, and they have said what they wanted to. Stop making more of it then their really is.....geesh don't any of you have lives??? or a business to run??... Nina is no longer with Lightspeed !!! end of story.
Move on
Wow a post that made sense..... how the hell did you end up in this thread?
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:25 PM   #93
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OK for fucks sake, two posts. But only because the idea of Lightspeed redirectly affiliate traffic for any reason other than out and out fraud is so fucking ridiculous I can't believe anyone suggested it other than as a joke.

I've known Steve Lightspeed for a long time. I don't see that it's my personal business what's going on between him and a partner or an employee or whatever since I do not work there or own a piece of it. I guess other people don't see it that way, which is a shame.
I wish I knew what you were trying to say. I really do.
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:26 PM   #94
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be careful - it might be possible that they redirect your traffic while you explore your options
you do realize I am not being serious here, right?
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:30 PM   #95
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Well, I just clicked one of my old "Nina" links and got Taylor Little.


Guess I'll have to replace those nina-links with her updated links from her new program this weekend.


Onward.
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nope I don't think your getting it.. Just watch this board and matybe you will. Oh a contract agreement is not everything, believe me. Word of mouth is the best advertiseing you can get and guess what else it is?
I should have added, the porn business is very big, and also very small.

of course you have a LOT more business experience than me......

but ()

as i see it........

if personA were to sign a legally binding contract with personB, saying "if i stop working for personB's company, then i won't be able to keep the rebills for the project i've been working on, under their company name"

regardless of what onlookers think, that contract is still legally binding and that's what would happen unless both parties decide to agree to an alternative.

of course a contract agreement is not everything, anyone can appreciate that.... it's easy to see right here, some onlookers aren't exactly loving "bad boy lightspeed" right now
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:35 PM   #98
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OK for fucks sake, two posts. But only because the idea of Lightspeed redirectly affiliate traffic for any reason other than out and out fraud is so fucking ridiculous I can't believe anyone suggested it other than as a joke.

I've known Steve Lightspeed for a long time. I don't see that it's my personal business what's going on between him and a partner or an employee or whatever since I do not work there or own a piece of it. I guess other people don't see it that way, which is a shame.
i said it would be...would be down right stupid
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you do realize I am not being serious here, right?
God I thought you were as serious as a heart attack.
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OK...I had to post again too.

Kimmy...it would be much easier to stay out of their business if they didn't bring it to the board.

Does dragging your own program through this shit really pay off?

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