Jakke PNG

Really.. OR, then epassporte must make a way to transfer funds from paypal to epassporte account. I'm afraid of paypal. I move thousands of bucks through paypal every month, and damn me if the fuckers close my account. I need to change to epassporte. Everyone should get an account there. So far paypal's been good to me (except for the conversion rate from USD to ?).

How can I transfer funds from paypal to epassporte. I'm from europe, so I can't even get paypal debit card. Do I really have to pay someone with paypal and epassporte account to make the change? First paypal the fuckers the money, then they put it to my epassporte from their epassporte account which they loaded from their cc after they've received my payment from paypal to their account? what hassle. Epassporte guys should hire someone to do this. I'd paypal 'em the money, and they would add it to my epassporte account.

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FlyingIguana

i get anal raped by paypal everytime i transfer american dollars to my canadian account

freeme

http://www.preferpay.com

can use paypal all you wish

or just use the card at your favorite local eatery or to by a plane ticket or to reserve a car...........

Jakke PNG

I don't trust you.

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candyflip

I don't know if this program is global, but if you're in the states, it's the best replacement.

http://paydirect.yahoo.com/

freeme

hahahaha

do you trust Bank of America? Visa MC?

you trusting me is mute anyway

we are signing up companies with 5-10k cards

anyone needing 25k or more I will PAY YOU to send out our cards
.25 per card per month Recurring


and at NO COST TO YOU.

plus our transaction fees such as ATM fees are lower than anyone elses

Jakke PNG

Yes. But I don't trust you. You're not Visa.
How long have you been around?

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freeme

our program IS global

got webmasters in Antartica-Zaire?

as long as there is a visa/mc Cirrus Star or PLUS bank they can use the card
Load it from ANYWHERE
Use paypal, western Union, checking acct. ect ect

Airlines, Point of Sale purchases, Reserve a hotel, ect ect

cant do that with anyother card

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freeme

I have been around for 5 years

my partner has banking relationships with Visa/Mc and Bank of America totaling in the Hundreds of Millions of dollars yearly

They own the LARGEST time share marketing compnay in the usa

So their relationships with the banks are ROCK SOLID mainstream agreements

and I dont see any of the money. It goes directly to BofA via YOUR deposit

you dont send me a dime

the BANK pays me

gothweb

The single most important thing is that we standardize. If everyone adopts a different pay service to replace PayPal, we won't exactly be able to work together easily.

At this point, I think E-Passporte and Yahoo are the only real options. If someone can work out a way to make a new system that doesn't require everyone to have an account with them to send and receive, then it won't matter as much. Until then, the last thing we need is a dozen tiny services.

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epassporte's biggest flaw:

it's a STUPID fucking name.

It's not memorable in the least, and it's not indicative of their service.

freeme

hmmm why try to BUILD a solution when one is right in front of you?

WE CAN SUPPORT PAYPAL PAYMENTS NOW!!!!

Jakke PNG

How?
Ok, I'll ask you a few questions and then consider.
1. HOW do I get money from paypal account directly to my card with you?
2. Do I have to give out my 'real' CC number to you, or can I just feed the card from paypal?
3. Can I withdraw money from any atm? So I walk to the nearest atm here in finland, put in the card, and take money?
4. Where do you take your currency conversions?

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candyflip

Paydirect is in other countries...they advise to consult check your local Yahoo page to see. I searched a few and could only find it in the UK. I've been searching for an alternative and have set up an account. HSBC is my local bank, so it works for me. Now if there were a few more people using it.

UK - http://uk.paydirect.yahoo.com/

Jakke PNG

Also, answer these while you're at it:

1. Why isn't there a 'country' section on your signup page?
2. My email address is too long for you. What about that?

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Also, what's the limit I can withdraw daily from an ATM?

What does currency conversion fee 3% mean? If I take 1000$ USD from a finnish ATM, it costs :
33.50$ to withdraw that, minus horrible conversion ratios between USD and EURO?

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brutus

freeme: Yes, interesting card... but can't find how to sing up as non US based person?

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candyflip

Visa's been doing this for a few years now with their VisaBuxx debit cards for kids. The parents cand load up the card with a set amount and the kid can use anywhere there's a Visa or Plus/Cirrus logo.

I see how this can be used for webmasters/payroll, but what is the process for transferring money from one card to another...here at home or 10,000 miles from here? Lots of people are looking for person to person.

Tuga

I want to see the answers to those questions...

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freeme

ATM

any atm in the world with a cirrus star or plus logo you can use

we take our currency conversions from B of A

your CC number is yours issued from the bank just like a reg CC

i dont have access to that info

as far as paypal you can tranfer monies from your CC to paypal

I will check about loading the card FROM paypal with my acct rep at the bank
you can load your card at ANY bank that has the same criteria as above checking acct, ect ect.

i will have the other answers for your ?'s shortly

freeme

I currently have to set up International clients manually

we ship you the cards directly.

and yes CandyFlip this is NOTHING NEW to the market

banks already have this, Im surprised there are not more doing it

It HUGE already and I just started marketing for them last week and I already have 20k cards orderd from 3 large sponsors

Brujah

Why don't you answer the questions in this thread below too, rather than continue to avoid them ?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=122385

Who is Chad Davis ?
What is CommerceCarib ?
Is this an offshore banking operation ?
What kind of banking references does he have ?
How is this different than any other prepaid card or internet card affiliate program except that you get a referral commission maybe ?

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freeme

use pay pal bro!!!

transfer from your card to paypal and e-mail away

Jakke PNG

freeme, you're not getting the point.
I want to transfer money FROM paypal TO the card.
Can I do that. If I can, how.

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max.yambo

TeenGodFather,

Go with Yambo. As I've understood from this tread, our services are right for you. Like preferpay's are though. We can setup a new a/c at yambo and issue an offshore ATM card for you. There won't be any withdrawal limits. The card will be issued by one of offshore banks we currently work with.

You will also be able to receive paypal, bank checks, webmoney and payments of any system you've ever heard of.

I understand that it's not that easy to trust your money to a company you hardly know. However, hit me on the icq - i'll answer all your questions and maybe you'll get your a/c with us

Also check out www.yambo.biz/yambo.php?page=rates.

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freeme

candyflip

You completely missed the point. People don't want to use Paypal. If your program is legit, cool...but it's not a replacement to Paypal, if I still have to use Paypal.

Jakke PNG

Receive PayPal transfer 9% -> I think that's a bit harsh. From 1000$ I have to pay 90$. That's a lot of cash. Considering I'd get all my money from paypal straight to somewhere else. That would be worse than just taking them from paypal to my account.
Also, I don't see anywhere what's the fee is for withdrawing money from ATM's is.

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Phoenix66

As far as I can see, Epassporte doesn't allow to link bank accounts to it. Probably it's not that essential for surfers, but for me, as a seller, it's very important. Any chances they will allow that in further? Are there any other companies with such possibility?

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freeme

then dont use paypal

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Visa cashCards can be reloaded through our Web Site by using a credit card or ECash.


and ANYONE can load money on that card for you

so why do you need paypal?

Jakke PNG

They said it would be planned.
I personally would just love to have my cash from PAYPAL to epassporte, or whatever, and I could instantly cash them with an ATM card. It's über-annoying to wait a week before I get to use the money I've earned. For example now I have a situation where I need 1500? that I don't have, until next tuesday. Isn't that a bitch.

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Jakke PNG

You don't get it.

see the post above.

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freeme

YES I get it

I have a call into our bank rep at B of A now

Lily

I just talked to someone at Epassporte and was told that they would have the capability to fund from bank accounts by May 15.

PayPal currently has about 50% of its customers funding their accounts with a bank account as opposed to a credit card (or so I was told by PayPal)...so I need to find a solution for THESE guys...not just cc customers who are laundering their money through another solution so the wife doesn't see the charge or guys who already have money in a PayPal account because they use Ebay.

KRL

FreeMe - do you have any deals setup for a high volume co-branded card deal where there would be a rev share involved?

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I just want my money from paypal to my hand asap. I don't give a fuck who does it. (not willing to pay 10% though).

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gothweb

Check out the Yahoo thing.

http://paydirect.yahoo.com/

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Lily

Another question....do you think that customers will willingly switch to a new service? I know that for an entire YEAR I did the PayPal referral link on my sites and though I do over $100,000 a year in PayPal, I never ONCE actually referred someone through those links. So that leads me to believe that these guys already had PayPal accounts, no one actually saw the info on my site and decided to sign up.

So what do you think will happen now? Will they sign up for another account with another processor?

Jakke PNG

I don't give a crap about that either.
The whole point of the thread is that I still won't mind accepting payments through paypal, BUT I want to have the means to transfer the cash FROM paypal to somewhere instantly, like Epassporte. Then I could use the Visa electron instantly to go and get cash. Now I have to wait a week for the money to come through from paypal to my account. I know that question was probably not ment for me, but I thought I'd clarify.

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freeme

KRL

YES

i just set up a deal with the bank where we will PAY the co-brand compay up to $1.00 per month per active card for the LIFE of the card

Im MUST be fucking Crazy to give this away but what the hell it only money

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and we will Brand print and SHIP all the cards FREEEEE

I love FREE
;)

max.yambo

TeenGodFather,


If you need just one-time transfer (PayPal -> somewhere -> your hands), that is one thing. If you need a long-term relationship with a payment system - I can get you a lower rate easily. But I believe you know that PayPal charges 2.x% or something for incoming payments right?

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Jakke PNG

I know about the 2% incoming. But what does that have to do with anything, I still have to pay it even though I move with you?
Or, can you directly accept paypal payments. I doubt it.
If someone makes a paypal payment to my email address, it's not coming directly to Yambo account is it? I have to first receive it to Paypal (2%) and then move it to you (9%) ?

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Lily

Um, ok, since you OWN this thread, I'll ask that question elsewhere. I had no idea you felt obligated to address every post in it. The subject had been brought up though so I figured I'd ask. It's not like I asked why monkeys fly out of your butt....Epassporte and PayPal were the subject.

Jakke PNG

Umm.. okay.
I do OWN this thread, if you haven't noticed I am trying to figure out MY problem here. If you have issues, feel free to share, but stop crying.

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KRL

FreeMe, I'm heading out to a meeting can you send me an e-mail so I have your e-mail address to get back to you.

Thanks!

E-Mail me at [email protected]

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Tuga

I have that problem + paypal wont transfer money into portuguese banks, so I just spend all the money in hosting, traffic, content, etc... but I am getting more than I can spend... I'll end up buying a lot of stuff I dont need on amazon.

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Brujah

Thanks for answering the questions Forest. For sponsors paying out several thousand each week though, a wire seems a lot safer to me. I think it's a good idea though as a webmaster to get paid by my sponsor refilling a card balance instead of mailing me a check.

This seems to be a nice alternative to e-passporte too, since that relies on sponsors who process through epoch and your method will work with anyone.. correct ?

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freeme

TG

paypal is ALL GOOD

you WILL be able to transfer funds FROM paypal TO our CC

we are setting up with paypal As We SPEAK!

Ill keep you posted

max.yambo

TeenGodFather,

No we can't directly accept payments from paypal. But we have an account with paypal. You would just send money from your paypal a/c to ours with payment details like "Further credit to {your a/c number at yambo}". As soon as we receive your transfer - we deposit your yambo a/c with that amount MINUS 2% (that charges paypal) AND MINUS 2%-7% YAMBO COMMISSION.

If it's 7% than total percentage is 9%. If it's 2% - than it's 4%.
Im just saying that you can accept paypal payments to yambo for just 4%-5%.

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freeme

well lets look at it this way

safe? Is there a more safe institution than Bank of America or VISA

and lets just say an affiliate has 10k webmasters and they are paying 10.00 Per wire

Thats ALOT of money man. NOT including the Man hours to do EACH seperate wire.

now with our system You send 1 batch file to your bank with ALL of your 10k webmasters on it.

the bank does all the work at NO expnese to the company

cut payroll expense by up to 80%

all that money goes right to the companies Bottom line

and Yes it works for anyone and Everyone!!!