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Old 04-07-2003, 11:53 PM   #1
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Anyone believe the reports that Saddam is dead?

? I sure hope so, but considering the brits took control of Basra 6 times and we took control of that shitty port town 4 times, I'll believe it when I see it. But, I sure am crossing my fingers.
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Old 04-07-2003, 11:55 PM   #2
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It's a bit like that.. we killed him the first time too..
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I hope they brought a portable DNA lab and have secured the area around the crater - cause if he was killed - he is probably mostly liquid remnants after that bomb hit him.
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They haven't confirmed his death. So they aren't even sure. Or have they made reports that actually confirm this now?

Last I saw it was speculation.
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Old 04-07-2003, 11:59 PM   #5
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I hope they brought a portable DNA lab and have secured the area around the crater - cause if he was killed - he is probably mostly liquid remnants after that bomb hit him. Otherwise, it will be hard to tell if they got him.
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Old 04-08-2003, 12:00 AM   #6
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Nope.... Not yet.
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It's a bit like that.. we killed him the first time too..
yeah exactly. i heard this story before. what i don't understand is why The Pentagon (or the press for that matter) goes on a limb to say we achieved something before we have any idea we did. Remember when they said we were closing in on Saddam. I was sure they had said that only because we had him in custody. Never count your eggs before they hatch.
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Why dont they ever talk about getting Osama anymore?
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I can wait 3 days or so to know for sure... Well they said 3 days... might take longer though



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Old 04-08-2003, 12:06 AM   #11
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Why dont they ever talk about getting Osama anymore?
Osama? Who the fuck is that? Ah, that's that guy selling falafels down on 4th and Broadway.



lol....they don't talk about anything except for Iraq these days. The press can't cover more than one story at once. But, that could be a good thing. Maybe Osama will slip up.
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yeah exactly. i heard this story before. what i don't understand is why The Pentagon (or the press for that matter) goes on a limb to say we achieved something before we have any idea we did. Remember when they said we were closing in on Saddam. I was sure they had said that only because we had him in custody. Never count your eggs before they hatch.

The Pentagon said Saddam was dead for sure?
I haven't heard that and I've been watching CNN all day.

They haven't said it one time either. All I've heard all day is they don't know.

CNN is the only news I've had on today - where did you hear that the Pentagon or the press had confirmed Saddam was dead?
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The Pentagon said Saddam was dead for sure?
I haven't heard that and I've been watching CNN all day.

They haven't said it one time either. All I've heard all day is they don't know.

CNN is the only news I've had on today - where did you hear that the Pentagon or the press had confirmed Saddam was dead?
no, the press, the pentagon, the president....no one says categorically that something has in fact happened, but why the fuck do they even say there is a strong possibility it's happened. we set expectations too high.
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yeah exactly. i heard this story before. what i don't understand is why The Pentagon (or the press for that matter) goes on a limb to say we achieved something before we have any idea we did. Remember when they said we were closing in on Saddam. I was sure they had said that only because we had him in custody. Never count your eggs before they hatch.
None of the press that I have seen stated that he was dead and certainly none of the Military spokesman have and in the case of the Military spokesman they would not even speculate about the matter.
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we set expectations too high.
Who represents we?
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None of the press that I have seen stated that he was dead and certainly none of the Military spokesman have and in the case of the Military spokesman they would not even speculate about the matter.

dude, go check out FoxNews.com which says "Strong Chance Saddam Hit" and goes on to say "Senior U.S. officials told Fox News, "There's a strong chance we got Saddam and probably both sons." The officials said the CIA provided the intelligence that led to the strike and it was not immediately clear whether any leadership targets were killed or wounded."


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lol....they don't talk about anything except for Iraq these days. The press can't cover more than one story at once. But, that could be a good thing. Maybe Osama will slip up.
Perhaps. Perhaps the so called "war" on Iraq is to distract peoples minds away from the fact that the US couldn't catch Osama. I mean, Bush couldn't be seen as a failure could he? Wouldn't that be bad for his career?

I dunno. I mean, if this was the case, Fox, CNN and MSNBC would be all over it!
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no, the press, the pentagon, the president....no one says categorically that something has in fact happened, but why the fuck do they even say there is a strong possibility it's happened. we set expectations too high.

Because their are 600+ reporters over there saying these things are happening, and all the reporters here asking the pentagon and the president the questions.

Once asked - they have to say they either know for sure - or they don't know for sure.
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the press, the gov't. it's just stupid to speculate too early. don't take credit before you things have actually happened, else you don't look good if it proves to be false.
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dude, go check out FoxNews.com which says "Strong Chance Saddam Hit" and goes on to say "Senior U.S. officials told Fox News, "There's a strong chance we got Saddam and probably both sons." The officials said the CIA provided the intelligence that led to the strike and it was not immediately clear whether any leadership targets were killed or wounded."


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Where did anyone report that Saddam is dead?
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the press, the gov't. it's just stupid to speculate too early. don't take credit before you things have actually happened, else you don't look good if it proves to be false.
The only credit that has been taken is that a high value target was bombed (possibly a group meeting of high Iraqi officials). The press nor the military has provided the results.
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Where did anyone report that Saddam is dead?


the point is why do we even speculate? why do "senior officials" say there's a "strong chance" we hit him before we really have any fucking clue?

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If you think it's cool to over-promise, then under-deliver, fine. But, that's not the way I think we should work.
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Where did anyone report that Saddam is dead?
Exactly. None. The US-haters love to twist reports to their own devise. Eg, "Saddam May Be Dead" into "Saddam Is Dead."

Same thing with the WMDs. There desperation is laughable.
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the point is why do we even speculate? why do "senior officials" say there's a "strong chance" we hit him before we really have any fucking clue?

My motto:


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If you think it's cool to over-promise, then under-deliver, fine. But, that's not the way I think we should work.
The news media speculates and exploits to draw more viewers. I have not seen any comments at all from "senior officials", have you. I think not, so the speculation is a creation of the media, at least up to this point.
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well lets hope he is.


And the Republican guard and etc.. fold and this is done and over with already.
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I've heard rumors they already have him in custody but don't want it made public until after the Iraq deal is done.
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I've heard rumors they already have him in custody but don't want it made public until after the Iraq deal is done.
if we had osama in custidy we would have a party bigger the new years eve in times square right now.
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You never know with this ultra high level of business. For all we know this could be a cover deal. Saddam offers CIA $5 Bil and gives up all his secrets in exchange to get out, plastic surgery and live happily ever after on an island somewhere.

Its pretty rare for billion dollar wealth not to have sophisticated escape plans and the contacts, networks to execute them.
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I've heard rumors they already have him in custody but don't want it made public until after the Iraq deal is done.
yeah right.
if anything they'd be on the news tonight saying they caught him in Iraq to justify the war. No way they have him and aren't using the propaganda value of it, no way in hell.
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Exactly. None. The US-haters love to twist reports to their own devise. Eg, "Saddam May Be Dead" into "Saddam Is Dead."

Same thing with the WMDs. There desperation is laughable.

You, my friend, are quite possibly the greatest argument for birth control! Are you really that stupid? Have you no brain whatsoever? I support this war more than anyone. My entire family has served in the military. Every post I make is in support of this war.


Which one of these recent posts makes you think I am a US-hater?

No Chemical Weapons? My ass!

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You fucking faggot. Go fucking die you ignorant piece of shit!!! I simply raised the fact that it's STUPID for us to PREMATURELY speculate.


People like you make me sick. Fuck off and die!


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I've heard rumors they already have him in custody but don't want it made public until after the Iraq deal is done.

I think we had this conversation before. I thought that when they announced we were "closing in on Osama" that we had him in custody because I couldn't believe we would announce that before we actually captured him.

I sure hope he's either dead or in custody but who the fuck knows?
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The news media speculates and exploits to draw more viewers. I have not seen any comments at all from "senior officials", have you. I think not, so the speculation is a creation of the media, at least up to this point.
I agree. The media speculates like crazy, but the reports on Fox quoted SENIOR OFFICIALS. Check it out.

"Senior U.S. officials told Fox News, "There's a strong chance we got Saddam and probably both sons." The officials said the CIA provided the intelligence that led to the strike and it was not immediately clear whether any leadership targets were killed or wounded. "

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83384,00.html

This is what I've been hearing all day.
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