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Speigelau 11-20-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21316393)
Dear MKA,

First of all, let?s clarify that this is your second thread on GFY where you?ve written about us. The first one you asked GFY administration to delete and it looked like you had admitted that you were not right having said bullshit about us. But it seems like you changed your mind again.
Secondly, when you signed up on BongaCash you agreed with the Terms. In the Terms it is written in black and white:
6.6. Affiliate accounts with extremely low traffic quality may find their pending payouts temporarily frozen in order to clarify the referred members' behavioural factors and productivity trends. Depending on the upcoming efficiency trends, the Affiliate will either get their balance unfrozen or the account will be moved to the RevShare program, which includes balance recalculation according to the Terms of the RevShare program.
Thirdly, when you sent a request to activate Pay per Signup program, your personal manager informed you that only quality traffic is accepted and asked you to read the Terms one more time and confirm whether you agree or not:
?Most important parts are:
1) No SPAM
2) Only quality registrations on Pay per Signup campaigns - affiliates sending low quality traffic will be switched back to RevShare as it is described in Terms.?
And you did confirm that you agreed. So why did you confirm that twice if you actually do not agree?
Fourthly, BongaCash has never banned you or refused to pay you out.
Considering everything you have written about us, I can see that you are not the affiliate we would like to have a partnership with. Therefore we have to terminate the partnership with you. On Monday your balance will be paid out and your account will be closed.



Right, NEVER start working on BongaCash if you are not ready to show your traffic sources. We are not interested in the traffic from secret sources you cannot name. Just use your secret traffic with another affiliate program :)

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There are lots of happy affiliates working on Pay per Signup program who make good money and get paid every week on BongaCash. We do love our affiliates and we are proud of having successful partnerships for years with them.
Happy Sunday :)

You do realize that "low traffic quality" is completely subjective and should be more clearly defined within your terms. Why don't you just tell affiliates like it really is? "If we don't turn a profit off your leads then we will suspend your account and move you to revshare".

Smack dat 11-20-2016 03:32 PM

This is a shitstain of a reply and the affiliate manager should be disciplined.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21316393)
Dear MKA,

First of all, let?s clarify that this is your second thread on GFY where you?ve written about us. The first one you asked GFY administration to delete and it looked like you had admitted that you were not right having said bullshit about us. But it seems like you changed your mind again.
Secondly, when you signed up on BongaCash you agreed with the Terms. In the Terms it is written in black and white:
6.6. Affiliate accounts with extremely low traffic quality may find their pending payouts temporarily frozen in order to clarify the referred members' behavioural factors and productivity trends. Depending on the upcoming efficiency trends, the Affiliate will either get their balance unfrozen or the account will be moved to the RevShare program, which includes balance recalculation according to the Terms of the RevShare program.
Thirdly, when you sent a request to activate Pay per Signup program, your personal manager informed you that only quality traffic is accepted and asked you to read the Terms one more time and confirm whether you agree or not:
?Most important parts are:
1) No SPAM
2) Only quality registrations on Pay per Signup campaigns - affiliates sending low quality traffic will be switched back to RevShare as it is described in Terms.?
And you did confirm that you agreed. So why did you confirm that twice if you actually do not agree?
Fourthly, BongaCash has never banned you or refused to pay you out.
Considering everything you have written about us, I can see that you are not the affiliate we would like to have a partnership with. Therefore we have to terminate the partnership with you. On Monday your balance will be paid out and your account will be closed.



Right, NEVER start working on BongaCash if you are not ready to show your traffic sources. We are not interested in the traffic from secret sources you cannot name. Just use your secret traffic with another affiliate program :)

***

There are lots of happy affiliates working on Pay per Signup program who make good money and get paid every week on BongaCash. We do love our affiliates and we are proud of having successful partnerships for years with them.
Happy Sunday :)

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Originally Posted by MKA (Post 21317227)
Hello,

Yes this is my second thread but no i did not admit i said bullshit about you, i was a bit harsh on publicly calling you scammers maybe however i did not admitted anything.
The only reason i asked for a thread removal was because i gave your company a chance to finish this investigation and pay me out but that was 3 weeks ago and i have no time for this.



I have been told my traffic was low quality, not extremely low.
Secondly, i don't have time to wait so long for your investigation (whatever that means exactly) and so does my hosting bills.



1)There is no SPAM involved
2)I do have quality visitors but it probably did not worked out well with YOUR PROGRAM.

Besides, agreed on your terms or not, i'm simply sharing my experience with your company and warn other people.
What is wrong with this? What i wrote down here is a true story, not some fairy tail. My payment has been frozen for about 3 weeks now because of some investigation that is taking weeks.




I never said bongacash banned me, i said my payment is frozen.
Is it so hard to actually read what i type?



Is this part of your message also related to me ? If so, this is really hilarious since i did mention all my traffic sources. Do i also need to tell you exactly how i'm getting my traffic and which keywords and what i did the past 10 years to generate this traffic?

Also i never said that nobody should never start working with bongacash, i only warned people.

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I'm happy for those affiliates but i still see no reason not share my bad experience with your company. I have not shown any blatant disrespect but pure facts
Sharing an experience should not be a reason to ban your affiliates btw but hey, it is your company so go ahead.

Happy Sunday back at you ;)

This should be discussed though PM or email. :2 cents:

EddyTheDog 11-20-2016 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21317245)
Pretty confused now, they had come across as top notch reliable


This argument has been played out dozens of times on here - They can do it as the terms agreed to are open ended...

My issue is with the threats - Did they make them?....

NatalieK 11-20-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21314083)
This sucks, OP.

Seems everyone nowadays is a scammer.

this is the problem with the world these days, 1 or 2 assholes & people think everyone's the same...


no, everyone is not a scammer these days!



& a shame to hear Bongacams has done this OP :disgust

sarettah 11-20-2016 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21317245)
Pretty confused now, they had come across as top notch reliable


They have always seemed somewhat sketchy to me.

just my :2 cents:

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The Porn Nerd 11-20-2016 10:17 PM

OP I would like some of that good traffic please....:)

WiredGuy 11-20-2016 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21316393)
Right, NEVER start working on BongaCash if you are not ready to show your traffic sources. We are not interested in the traffic from secret sources you cannot name. Just use your secret traffic with another affiliate program :)

Wow, that's somewhat harsh.
WG

ilovecfnm 11-21-2016 12:23 AM

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Right, NEVER start working on BongaCash if you are not ready to show your traffic sources. We are not interested in the traffic from secret sources you cannot name. Just use your secret traffic with another affiliate program :)
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WTF... Do we have to tell you how many times a day we go for a shit also? or how many times we jerk off in a day? Yeah right, I will never give out my secrets so you the affiliate will steal my ideas. As long we are not email spamming, what is the fruckin problemo? If is traffic dont convert, change it to rev share, that's your mistake, not is. Maybe you should give him access to is affiliate data so he could manage it himself, is that possible?

twinvisible 11-21-2016 02:04 AM

Bonga is shady as hell. They asked to see my traffic so I showed them. There was nothing to hide. I would get so many "refunds" from them that I finally just moved to another whitelabel. They banned me for telling them their shit sucks and never paid me.

I switched whitelabels and lo and behold not one refund from the new cam whitelabel. They're no good and their attitude is pretty shitty. There are so many other places so no need to mess with them.

Here was my thread on them a few years ago

Brian mike 11-21-2016 06:38 AM

I just point that thread out to someone else at BC.

Will see the outcome. Very harsh answer from BC custumer service .

IMO the OP should be paid as long as the sign up is not Fraud. Pay the Guy his sign up and switch him to revshare.

The last sponsors did that to my self was AFF LOL. I have never promote them again .........

MKA 11-21-2016 06:55 AM

Well, in the end I got my payment and my account has been terminated now.
I think I will mail them and ask what will happen with a bunch of sign-ups I have that were set on revshare. :)
I mean I still don't understand why they terminated my account, lol.

They could have solve this issue so easily, just by finishing up their "investigation"( should not take 3 weeks), realize there is no fraud or spam involved, pay me and set me on revshare.

wehateporn 11-21-2016 06:58 AM

Glad that they paid

Brian mike 11-21-2016 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKA (Post 21318682)
Well, in the end I got my payment and my account has been terminated now.

Well time to move on OP, Glad you got paid ..

Anyhow The Adult Network Center would like to discuss with you about this so baddd traffic would be welcome here :winkwink:

info in sig :thumbsup

eh eh eh eh Can't resist sorry

Aleksandra BongaCash 11-21-2016 07:42 AM

Hi MKA,

Thank you for sharing your experience on GFY and it just proves that both affiliates and affiliate managers should mind their language.
With all respect to you BongaCash has no wish to have a partnership with the affiliates who publicly call us out before actually getting any resolution. Needless to copy paste what you had typed about us and about the frozen account without payment though it was the payment temporarily frozen according to the Terms.

Taking into account the traffic sources you had mentioned there was a decision made to wait a bit until there was any activity with the traffic you sent to us instead of just recalculating your payment on RevShare that would be zero with that quality traffic. Anyway, you just got your balance unfrozen and the partnership terminated. I hope everything is clear now.
We are very thankful that you gave a shot to our affiliate program and we wish you a better experience with another one.

brassmonkey 11-21-2016 07:48 AM

yep the bs fried you op.

ilovecfnm 11-21-2016 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21318877)
Hi MKA,

Thank you for sharing your experience on GFY and it just proves that both affiliates and affiliate managers should mind their language.
With all respect to you BongaCash has no wish to have a partnership with the affiliates who publicly call us out before actually getting any resolution. Needless to copy paste what you had typed about us and about the frozen account without payment though it was the payment temporarily frozen according to the Terms.

Taking into account the traffic sources you had mentioned there was a decision made to wait a bit until there was any activity with the traffic you sent to us instead of just recalculating your payment on RevShare that would be zero with that quality traffic. Anyway, you just got your balance unfrozen and the partnership terminated. I hope everything is clear now.
We are very thankful that you gave a shot to our affiliate program and we wish you a better experience with another one.

could we see screenshots of his account? then we will believe it;) now, its just blah blah, no proof whatsoever. Why so many people are saying shady?

brassmonkey 11-21-2016 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovecfnm (Post 21318892)
could we see screenshots of his account? then we will believe it;) now, its just blah blah, no proof whatsoever. Why so many people are saying shady?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh invade his privacy? you got jokes!!

zerovic 11-21-2016 10:32 AM

The same thing happened to me with another program a few weeks ago...the program is offering PPS, but only if they make more cash then you do... so, if you go with revshare, everyone is happy, but if you chose to go with PPS, and the members only stay for a month, and never rebill, they have the right not to pay you at all... I asked them if they are willing to prove that the users never rebilled and/or if they are willing to pay me more if the users actually pay more then the PPS itself? The math is really simple.. if they make more then the pps, everything is good, if not, they have the right not to pay you... I always thought that PPS itself is a risk from the sponsor, but because they know that the users will rebill, it's worth it... the conclusion, it's a bait to get more affiliates... :(

The Porn Nerd 11-21-2016 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 21319351)
The same thing happened to me with another program a few weeks ago...the program is offering PPS, but only if they make more cash then you do... so, if you go with revshare, everyone is happy, but if you chose to go with PPS, and the members only stay for a month, and never rebill, they have the right not to pay you at all... I asked them if they are willing to prove that the users never rebilled and/or if they are willing to pay me more if the users actually pay more then the PPS itself? The math is really simple.. if they make more then the pps, everything is good, if not, they have the right not to pay you... I always thought that PPS itself is a risk from the sponsor, but because they know that the users will rebill, it's worth it... the conclusion, it's a bait to get more affiliates... :(

(This is not directed at BongaCash or any specific Program.)

What you outlined is basically why I have never offered PPS. Yes, the math IS simple - and it's not good. Especially if we are talking PPS offers that are higher than the actual join price. You know, $50 PPS for a $29.95 Membership.

For the Program (the honest ones, not the shady ones with questionable revenue streams), the only way a PPS works is if the customer rebills or you cross-sell them on the initial join. There may be other reasons to offer limited PPS offers - like jump starting a Program, reinvigorating a stale one, Holiday sales, etc. But if a Program consistently offers PPS then the financial pressure to make that offer profitable - for the PROGRAM - is enormous.

My solution? As a CCBill Program I offer a yearly $99.95 membership with a 50/50 revshare. So while it is 'revshare' the join is a one-time only. So in effect the affiliate is getting a PPS-type deal when they promote that option. $50 a pop in the affiliate's pocket, from CCBill, and no worries about hitting minimums (mine is set at $20) and not getting paid. :)

zerovic 11-21-2016 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21319504)
(This is not directed at BongaCash or any specific Program.)

What you outlined is basically why I have never offered PPS. Yes, the math IS simple - and it's not good. Especially if we are talking PPS offers that are higher than the actual join price. You know, $50 PPS for a $29.95 Membership.

For the Program (the honest ones, not the shady ones with questionable revenue streams), the only way a PPS works is if the customer rebills or you cross-sell them on the initial join. There may be other reasons to offer limited PPS offers - like jump starting a Program, reinvigorating a stale one, Holiday sales, etc. But if a Program consistently offers PPS then the financial pressure to make that offer profitable - for the PROGRAM - is enormous.

My solution? As a CCBill Program I offer a yearly $99.95 membership with a 50/50 revshare. So while it is 'revshare' the join is a one-time only. So in effect the affiliate is getting a PPS-type deal when they promote that option. $50 a pop in the affiliate's pocket, from CCBill, and no worries about hitting minimums (mine is set at $20) and not getting paid. :)

exactly.. it's a risk, but if you are offering it, take the risk...advertising PPS then referring to some sub points in the tos is simply lame in my opinion, however, since we all accept the tos when signing up, programs have their rights to do anything... anyways, I prefer revshare, especially on cams..

Google Expert 11-21-2016 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21318877)
Hi MKA
With all respect to you BongaCash has no wish to have a partnership with the affiliates who publicly call us out before actually getting any resolution.

He tried to resolve this with you.

You refused and then threatened him.

Asshole russian thugs :321GFY

Google Expert 11-21-2016 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21316393)
Secondly, when you signed up on BongaCash you agreed with the Terms. In the Terms it is written in black and white:
6.6. Affiliate accounts with extremely low traffic quality may find their pending payouts temporarily frozen bla bla bla.

All affiliate should worry about is generating traffic and sending sales to a program. It's your responsibility to convert surfers and have a good enough member's area that members rebill.
It's not affiliates fault that you have a shit members area and surfers decide not to convert from trial to full.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 21315922)
yep, this is BS. if they offer PPS, they take a risk and if your traffic is legit but doesn't work well for them, they just should pay you what you made and switch you to revshare.

Exactly. It's their own fault that they can't keep a surfer interested in their shit website.

EddyTheDog 11-21-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21318877)
Hi MKA,

Thank you for sharing your experience on GFY and it just proves that both affiliates and affiliate managers should mind their language.
With all respect to you BongaCash has no wish to have a partnership with the affiliates who publicly call us out before actually getting any resolution. Needless to copy paste what you had typed about us and about the frozen account without payment though it was the payment temporarily frozen according to the Terms.

Taking into account the traffic sources you had mentioned there was a decision made to wait a bit until there was any activity with the traffic you sent to us instead of just recalculating your payment on RevShare that would be zero with that quality traffic. Anyway, you just got your balance unfrozen and the partnership terminated. I hope everything is clear now.
We are very thankful that you gave a shot to our affiliate program and we wish you a better experience with another one.

Did you make the threats or not? - It's not a hard question to answer...

Speigelau 11-21-2016 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21319909)
Did you make the threats or not? - It's not a hard question to answer...

No need to keep asking the same question, it's obvious from her response that they did tell him what would happen should he speak negatively about them on the boards. It's not really a threat, just a bs way of trying to hold control the affiliate to not bad mouth the program.

sarettah 11-21-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21320122)
No need to keep asking the same question, it's obvious from her response that they did tell him what would happen should he speak negatively about them on the boards. It's not really a threat, just a bs way of trying to hold control the affiliate to not bad mouth the program.

Yeah, it's like Alpha Sky is running Bonga. ;p

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brassmonkey 11-21-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21319909)
Did you make the threats or not? - It's not a hard question to answer...

it was a promise account terminated. nuff said

freecartoonporn 11-21-2016 05:48 PM

glad you got paid.

so how much $$ are we talking about here ?

Aleksandra BongaCash 11-22-2016 04:08 AM

Hi EddyTheDog,

We never make any threats to our affiliates. The words were taken from the context. MKA had written false information that we asked to remove. That's it.

Affiliate program is not a supermarket. It involves partnership. If the affiliate program considers that the affiliate and his traffic does not meet the Terms, we will not continue the partnership with such an affiliate any longer.

Lichen 11-22-2016 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Aleksandra BongaCash (Post 21321706)
Hi EddyTheDog,

We never make any threats to our affiliates. The words were taken from the context. MKA had written false information that we asked to remove. That's it.

Affiliate program is not a supermarket. It involves partnership. If the affiliate program considers that the affiliate and his traffic does not meet the Terms, we will not continue the partnership with such an affiliate any longer.

Translation: if affiliate is making money and we can't steal his traffic source, we will threaten him and close his account.

Speigelau 11-22-2016 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 21320218)
Yeah, it's like Alpha Sky is running Bonga. ;p

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Lol, that guy had to be the most stubborn program owner of all time. No matter what tips were given to him, he was dead set on doing things his way, even if it meant running off every last active affiliate. I forget his sites, please tell me they are dead.

Brian mike 11-24-2016 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21321823)
Lol, that guy had to be the most stubborn program owner of all time. No matter what tips were given to him, he was dead set on doing things his way, even if it meant running off every last active affiliate. I forget his sites, please tell me they are dead.

Think they are still alive :1orglaugh

CPA-Rush 12-02-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 21314665)
Warned everyone before nobody ever listens

from the first day i knew u are one big clown troll

https://gfy.com/20865740-post10.html

this was good warning

CPA-Rush 02-17-2017 08:32 AM

say bye bye to your traffic in russian brothel forever :helpme.

xXXtesy10 02-17-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 21552016)
say bye bye to your traffic in russian brothel forever :helpme.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh they top notch stand up bros

xXXtesy10 02-17-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 21350704)
from the first day i knew u are one big clown troll

https://gfy.com/20865740-post10.html

this was good warning

because this....

http://i.imgur.com/3miRoPX.jpg

Brian mike 12-28-2017 10:36 AM

Aleksandra BongaCash You still have a warm place in my heart. After all this

marlboroack 12-28-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by insider22 (Post 21316012)
Thats fucked. I'm owed 25k in earnings from Brent Hunter who Managed boinkcash.com
Sites already down, but if you ever hear that name know nothing good is to follow.

Brent owes me 4000$

CandidHotties 12-28-2017 05:36 PM

It's a shitty cam site anyways. don't know why people bother sending traffic to them anyways.


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