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Old 04-06-2003, 12:18 AM   #1
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American History X

Just saw it again, it is the movie that has "touched" me the most.

for those who havent seen it yet, do so, you will not regret it.
and for those who already have seen it, care to comment about it?

thanx!
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:19 AM   #2
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That movie fucking ROCKS.
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:19 AM   #3
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That movie fucking ROCKS.
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That movie fucking sucks.

Romper Stomper is a much better movie about skinheads without the sellout bullshit ending.
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the curb sammich scene was a bit harsh...and so was the force anal love in the shower...but other than that, was a great flick...



it's a worthy enough movie to add to a permanent collection...
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:21 AM   #6
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That movie fucking sucks.

Romper Stomper is a much better movie about skinheads without the sellout bullshit ending.
Well one is made in hollywood and one is a indepenent film from oz.
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:22 AM   #7
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American History X kicks ass. Get ready for a flood of people who are going to say "See Romper Stomper instead. It's the REAL thing!" There's about 10 people on here who are "above" American History X and slip this in every single time the movie comes up.

Edit: Haha, I see I am too late.

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Old 04-06-2003, 12:22 AM   #8
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That movie fucking sucks.

Romper Stomper is a much better movie about skinheads without the sellout bullshit ending.

Romper STomper is for those that are truely into the cult flick scene and of course is the primary classic on the topic...


any widely accepted hollywood flick can be considered 'sellout'

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they did Hollywood-ize it a bit much... pretty good movie, though.. Ed Norton is a good actor, IMO.
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Well one is made in hollywood and one is a indepenent film from oz.
Isn't that the fucking truth.

It's pretty obvious when you look at both films too.

American History X reeks of Hollywood.
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:24 AM   #11
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American History X kicks ass. Get ready for a flood of people who are going to say "See Romper Stomper instead. It's the REAL thing!" There's about 10 people on here who are "above" American History X and slip this in every single time the movie comes up.

Edit: Haha, I see I am too late.

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And who better than Joe Sixpack to lead the charge!!

Yeah, you know I wasn't going to say anything, but I won't shy away from it. Let's just say I am not surprised

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any widely accepted hollywood flick can be considered 'sellout'
That's why the vast majority of them are shit.
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:27 AM   #14
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That's why the vast majority of them are shit.
on this particular topic you are 100% correct!

but for mamby pamby chick flicks, pure shoot 'em up, etc type flicks....hollywood does a great job...they just suck balls when it comes to portraying this scene/culture....
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:28 AM   #15
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they did Hollywood-ize it a bit much... pretty good movie, though.. Ed Norton is a good actor, IMO.
Ed Norton is the shit cuz he's been tappin Salma's b00ty for a few years now ;)

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Old 04-06-2003, 12:30 AM   #16
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on this particular topic you are 100% correct!

but for mamby pamby chick flicks, pure shoot 'em up, etc type flicks....hollywood does a great job...they just suck balls when it comes to portraying this scene/culture....
True.

Hollywood is great at turning good ideas into bland pap for the masses. How could they possibly be any good at realistically portraying any alternative culture?
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Ed Norton is the shit cuz he's been tappin Salma's b00ty for a few years now ;)

Really?
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i think the "curb scene" is the only memorable scene in a movie that actually made me cringe.
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:55 AM   #19
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i think the "curb scene" is the only memorable scene in a movie that actually made me cringe.
the final scene, when derek runs in the bathroom, argh, that was so.... I dont know... words cannot explain the way I felt...
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Old 04-06-2003, 12:57 AM   #20
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That movie fucking sucks.

Romper Stomper is a much better movie about skinheads without the sellout bullshit ending.
For the first and last time, I will agree with Joe Six.
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Really?
yeh, shocking that those two hooked up

but they been a bangin for a good few years now...

that luck bastard!
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Just saw it again, it is the movie that has "touched" me the most.

for those who havent seen it yet, do so, you will not regret it.
and for those who already have seen it, care to comment about it?

thanx!
where did it touch you?
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where did it touch you?
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American History X tries, but misses the mark. The perfomances are good, except for that black guy in the laundry room that shows Derek the evil of his ways. I can't believe they didn't rewrite that part, get a new actror or something. The unbelievability of that character amplified the cheesy Hollywood ending, for me.


Do I have to admit Romper Stomper is the superior flick? That would put me in agreement with Joe Sixpack for the second time in two days. Help.
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One of my favorite all-time movies. The saddest part of it is the reality of it; people like that living with us.

It does a great job of showing how racism is born and how it can affect people -- and the stupidity of hatred.

The curb scene was powerful but for me, it was the end of the movie that affected me the most.
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if it weren't for this movie, crazy mother fuckers like me who get in fights outside nightclubs persistently wouldn't know how to properly 'curbstomp' someone ......
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The reason the movie is too hollywood is because the film was taken away from the director and Edward Norton edited the film at the last minute cos the studio didnt like it the way the director had edited it, it is said Ed gave himself more on-screen time.

The proper name for the curb technique is called "The Berkerly Stomp".
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The reason the movie is too hollywood is because the film was taken away from the director and Edward Norton edited the film at the last minute cos the studio didnt like it the way the director had edited it, it is said Ed gave himself more on-screen time.

The proper name for the curb technique is called "The Berkerly Stomp".
But it doesn't kill does it? It looks like it just knocks the teeth out.
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Ironically I just finished watching this 2 minutes before I saw this thread!

If anything the movie doesn't touch on any reasons why racism is bad besides "hate begets hate."

If anything this film makes a case for racism because the facts that are brought up about "border jumpers" and the crime rates of negros, etc are indeed the facts.

I loved the part where the jew teacher makes the comment that the jews have been persecuted for 5000 years. Look at where jews are now? They completely control major industires like entertrainment, law, banking and of course anything involving finance. .

Interesting points to make in a movie trying to say that negros got it bad due to cultural bias.

But, the movie never touches on the fact that racism is fundamentally evil because it prejudges someone's value based upon meaningless outward appearances. People can only be judged individually because thats what everyone is (black or white or whatever). Racism is merely the focus on race - which is of course just another horrible collectivist concept.

So, due to that complete disregard for the real issue. Its a thumbs DOWN.
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definitely the most memorable movie I've ever seen. i still get chills when i think about it.
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Great movie, only other movie that touched me more was requim for a dream, but for different reasons, and maybe shindlers list.
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Fun movie, but after everyone sees it they think all shinheads are nazis.
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Yes, that movie definately rockes. A little to violent for my tastes but absolutely fantastic. And about the skinheads...aren't they all nazis? If not then what are they?
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