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Old 04-03-2003, 12:34 PM   #1
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I've poked people in the eye with fishing lures during fishing debates. Ripped the eyeballs right out of their sockets.
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The best bait is crack cocaine. It's true. I saw it on TV.
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What's the best lure for trout (in rivers) this time of year?
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What's the best lure for trout (in rivers) this time of year?


Baiting the hook with crack wouldn't hurt though.
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I don't know if this qualifies for starting a heated debate but...

mmm...fishing...

There's nothing like the silence of a lake at dawn. My family goes up to Mammoth every year for like a week.

Though I've never been deep sea...anyone here have a story to tell?
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I don't know if this qualifies for starting a heated debate but...

mmm...fishing...

There's nothing like the silence of a lake at dawn. My family goes up to Mammoth every year for like a week.

Though I've never been deep sea...anyone here have a story to tell?
If you say anything like that again I'm going to grab my Red Devil and rip your eyeballs out!
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Baiting the hook with crack wouldn't hurt though.
I agree. Flies are probably the best for rivers. You'd probably lose your bait, if the current was strong enough.
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What's the best lure for trout (in rivers) this time of year?
I'd have to agree that a roostertail, Pictured above, is a very good producer this and thoughout the year. As always presentation is key. Toss it up stream and bump it as it drifts back to you. Contrary to popular belief the blade doesn't need to turn for it to draw a strike.

In this early spring time I'd fish it deep and close to shore, to get at those waking lunkers hanging close to the bank's overhang or tree roots. Try and stay away from the faster current brought on by the spring melt as the food is somewhat scarce and the fish are conserving energy. Expect to lose alot of tackle as well.
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The best bait is crack cocaine. It's true. I saw it on TV.
That was on a King of the Hill episode

http://fishinaz.com/tv.htm
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I agree that if such a being existed and if such amazing occurances happened around him, he was probably of celestail origin...
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I agree. Flies are probably the best for rivers. You'd probably lose your bait, if the current was strong enough.
Nymph's maybe but dry flies are going to be alot of work...the spring melt makes bouyance an issue...
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maybe it's different up here. Sometimes the roostertails will work, but a krocodile spoon seems to work better this time of year.
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I'd have to agree that a roostertail, Pictured above, is a very good producer this and thoughout the year. As always presentation is key. Toss it up stream and bump it as it drifts back to you. Contrary to popular belief the blade doesn't need to turn for it to draw a strike.

In this early spring time I'd fish it deep and close to shore, to get at those waking lunkers hanging close to the bank's overhang or tree roots. Try and stay away from the faster current brought on by the spring melt as the food is somewhat scarce and the fish are conserving energy. Expect to lose alot of tackle as well.
Good advice. I haven't fished in forever, but my brothers crazy about fishing. I just remember a lot of stuff from growing up.

But yeah you want to throw your spinner/floater bait upstream and pull it down slowly.. if there is a current you pretty much want to just be reeling in the slack rather than dragging the bait/lure any closer to you - ie let the current bring it back.

But you can also do this with with bait. One good trick is to use a salmon egg hook and the lightest split shot (the crimp-on kind)
weight that will give you enough weight to throw it upstream a bit. Crimp it on about 18" away from the single egg, with the egg at the bottom.

You can catch a lot of trout like that.
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maybe it's different up here. Sometimes the roostertails will work, but a krocodile spoon seems to work better this time of year.

DO NOT tell me you fish too...I will stalk you!

That being said, I could see a spoon producing...Right now its all about flash and size. Alot of times in the early season I'll make sure to keep a large steelhead streamer available. The bigger the uglier the flashier the better...I'll fish it fast with a small splitshot and a water bubble working different depths till I hit the sweetspot...
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Good advice. I haven't fished in forever, but my brothers crazy about fishing. I just remember a lot of stuff from growing up.

But yeah you want to throw your spinner/floater bait upstream and pull it down slowly.. if there is a current you pretty much want to just be reeling in the slack rather than dragging the bait/lure any closer to you - ie let the current bring it back.

But you can also do this with with bait. One good trick is to use a salmon egg hook and the lightest split shot (the crimp-on kind)
weight that will give you enough weight to throw it upstream a bit. Crimp it on about 18" away from the single egg, with the egg at the bottom.

You can catch a lot of trout like that.

I'm against live bait...I prefer to catch my fish with lures...'cept catfish...then I use chicken liver and beer.
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maybe it's different up here. Sometimes the roostertails will work, but a krocodile spoon seems to work better this time of year.
Try plain super dupers or kastmasters... also good trout lures.
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DO NOT tell me you fish too...I will stalk you!

That being said, I could see a spoon producing...Right now its all about flash and size. Alot of times in the early season I'll make sure to keep a large steelhead streamer available. The bigger the uglier the flashier the better...I'll fish it fast with a small splitshot and a water bubble working different depths till I hit the sweetspot...
Bigger isn't always better. heheh Too much weight and it doesn't drag right with the current...I tend to stay with lighter stuff. Used a Thomas Bouyant some too.
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That was on a King of the Hill episode

http://fishinaz.com/tv.htm
That episode said "Based on a true event"...
didn't you see??
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And what have you used in your crab pots that works?

Canned cat food and chicken legs here.
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I'm against live bait...I prefer to catch my fish with lures...'cept catfish...then I use chicken liver and beer.
Chicken liver for the cats & beer for the fishermen no doubt.

Thats how all the catfishing that I remember went. Loooooots of beer. Rarely a catfish, ALWAYS something making noise in the bushes.

Ocassionally someone re-enacting some scene in apocalypse now & wading around with a hunting knife in their mouths in the night cutting the fishing lines of the neighbor fishermen.
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Most places up here have only designated areas for bait fishing if at all.
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Bigger isn't always better. heheh Too much weight and it doesn't drag right with the current...I tend to stay with lighter stuff. Used a Thomas Bouyant some too.
That's why I say the quicker retrieve...I agree with lighter tackle all the way, but its all about the instinct strike right now, my trout rod is a 5'6'' uglystick mini ultralight...I've taken 15 pound salmon on 5 pound test.

I recently crabbed dungeness in Pacifica I stick to fishheads, you can get them frozen and cheap at the local fishstores...ciopinno here I come...


To all the people bitching about clothes I'm working on it...realize that I do about one order a month and it consists of about 200 packages everytime...its a TON of work and just part of my duties here.

But I cannot make a trip to the post office for just a few packages at a time. Its inefficient.


Now back to fishing, the bass are going to hit prespawn soon...float tube and plastic worms all the way a baby!

There's also a striper derby coming up on the sac river...I can't wait!


Man I miss fishing...I yearn for the fishing...I think I'll make it a point to fish this whole weekend.
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Chicken liver for the cats & beer for the fishermen no doubt.

Thats how all the catfishing that I remember went. Loooooots of beer. Rarely a catfish, ALWAYS something making noise in the bushes.

Ocassionally someone re-enacting some scene in apocalypse now & wading around with a hunting knife in their mouths in the night cutting the fishing lines of the neighbor fishermen.

Ah yes...but those tender moments when someone's eye's dart to a jittering rod tip...silence crashes, the hook set, the fight and the anxious slight fear as someone hauls some freakish animal from the dark depths and into the pale light from a hissing lantern...
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Ah yes...but those tender moments when someone's eye's dart to a jittering rod tip...silence crashes, the hook set, the fight and the anxious slight fear as someone hauls some freakish animal from the dark depths and into the pale light from a hissing lantern...


I wonder what the catfish think when the see all the beer cans/bottles.... "Hmm.. this can't be good."
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Haven't been big on bass fishing since I was a kid. Never been much for the lake. I prefer the rivers or the ocean.

Sheeeeit, I fish whatever's available...I agree that lakes aren't always the nicest setting...when I lived in tahoe I loved the small tiny streams that run through all the meadows. Brookies up the wazoo.

But if you've never fished from a float tube, you should try it...its like fishing from an armchair...and when the action is right, mmmmmmmm...such fun. Not to mention that when the weather is hot you can sit half in the water and be nice and cool the whole time.

Shit one day I imagine I'll be drunk and goofy enough to fish naked in one of them suckers.
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But if you've never fished from a float tube, you should try it...its like fishing from an armchair...and when the action is right, mmmmmmmm...such fun. Not to mention that when the weather is hot you can sit half in the water and be nice and cool the whole time.

Shit one day I imagine I'll be drunk and goofy enough to fish naked in one of them suckers.
Done it. White River is the best float going. Get to work on the tan at the same time.

Just don't lose the cooler!
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I thought the Salmon was REALLY good my last trip to the chart house.

That explains it.

A cola company kind of tried something similar some years back........
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