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freeme · 04-03-2003, 10:42 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

is that stupid banner the reason you droped payouts to your chat hosts to 35%??

How many studio owners are going to stand for that

Your traffic must be hurting to drop your payouts to your talent especially the suckers that paid you 3750-5000 for lisences
ohh yeah I remember the days when you were pushing 3750 lisc fees then ripped everyone off and dropped payment from 70% to them to 50% now to 35%

how many american chicks do you think youll keep

I know of 2 S.A. guys getting ready to leave you shortly

Mutt · 04-03-2003, 10:48 AM

girls only get 35%? how much is a private show? Doesn't seem like you make much money at 35% - is that 35% of the gross or do they also take out credit card processing fees?

Lensman · 04-03-2003, 10:50 AM

Isn't that what TricCams pays too?

freeme · 04-03-2003, 10:51 AM

yeah but tricams has MUCH better traffic

too much freee no cc traffic on streamrays sites

Lensman · 04-03-2003, 10:56 AM

TriCams girls get less traffic, but all use credit cards. CamGirlsLive gets more traffic to the girls, but more freeloaders.

Don't the CamGirlsLive girls charge A LOT more than TriCams so they make more money? It seems like most of the girls on TriCams charge less than $2 a minute. And x 35%, the girl gets 70 cents.

So the CamGirlsLive have to work harder, but make more. Am I right?

Brujah · 04-03-2003, 11:02 AM

Is this Forests way of recruiting webmasters to promote his cams ?

freeme · 04-03-2003, 11:03 AM

cgl have to talk to 3-4x the number or customers to get anywhere near the amount of sales as tricams

ive been on cgl
ifriends
vs
cgl was the hardest system for the girls to make money on just do to the fact of all the 4free traffic that gets pumped thru there

freeme · 04-03-2003, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Is this Forests way of recruiting webmasters to promote his cams ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Brujah · 04-03-2003, 11:06 AM

girls make more with CGL or IF or TC ?

freeme · 04-03-2003, 11:08 AM

i had girls on if and cgl at the same time

if at the time did 40-50% more than cgl

i dont do cams anymore but vs was the best by far

and at 35% the girls now have to work that much harder just to make the same money at 15%

those free fuckers are a pain in tha ass

SleazyDream · 04-03-2003, 11:09 AM

last I heard lars wasn't hurting - why pay more than he has to for the girls?

all payments are recurring - lets do some math....

35% to the girls
25% webmaster payout
15% bandwidth cost - live streaming is HUGE usage for free sites
10% credit card processing and staff (he does his own, not thrid party)
15% profit.
-----
100%

this is just a guess but it's not too far off.

I doubt he could do credit card processing for under 10% after you consider the salaries of the people he has doing that for him.

Lars pays less upfront but a LOT more than MOST over time - and doesn't screw around the customer or anyone who promotes him.

i can list 2 dozen HIGH PROFILE people in this industry that will have NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS to say about Lars... be interesting if you, Brujah, can say the same...............I doubt it.

freeme · 04-03-2003, 11:12 AM

35% to the girls is bullshit with all that free traffic

35% on tricams talking to people with cc is a different story

Mutt · 04-03-2003, 11:13 AM

Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer.

Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money.

SleazyDream · 04-03-2003, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeme
35% to the girls is bullshit with all that free traffic

35% on tricams talking to people with cc is a different story

lars's program is in a TON of paysites members areas......... more than most other programs

Xenophage · 04-03-2003, 11:15 AM

We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good

freeme · 04-03-2003, 11:17 AM

mutt they screwed so many studio owners

i know 5 personally who paid 5k per lisc to stream. now that is per stream. if you want 5 studios its 5k per

the payout was 70% because you paid the 5k

then the did away with the lisc. and changed the payout to 50%

so anyone who had a 70% lisc was fucked

now they get 35%

what next 25%

i have 3 lisc owners on icq right now talking about this and 1 is going to vs in 2 weeks so lars is going to loose a good size studio owner because he keeps ripping them off
i know 1 guy in fl who is pulling his girls

tae money out of their pockets to spend on advertising.
doenst sound like good business to me

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
TriCams girls get less traffic, but all use credit cards. CamGirlsLive gets more traffic to the girls, but more freeloaders.

Don't the CamGirlsLive girls charge A LOT more than TriCams so they make more money? It seems like most of the girls on TriCams charge less than $2 a minute. And x 35%, the girl gets 70 cents.

So the CamGirlsLive have to work harder, but make more. Am I right?

I believe camgirlslive has sound as well.. does Tricams?

I'm not sure.. looking for something worth promoting

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
last I heard lars wasn't hurting - why pay more than he has to for the girls?

all payments are recurring - lets do some math....

35% to the girls
25% webmaster payout
15% bandwidth cost - live streaming is HUGE usage for free sites
10% credit card processing and staff (he does his own, not thrid party)
15% profit.
-----
100%

this is just a guess but it's not too far off.

I doubt he could do credit card processing for under 10% after you consider the salaries of the people he has doing that for him.

Lars pays less upfront but a LOT more than MOST over time - and doesn't screw around the customer or anyone who promotes him.

i can list 2 dozen HIGH PROFILE people in this industry that will have NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS to say about Lars... be interesting if you, Brujah, can say the same...............I doubt it.

Yeah we used to do a fair amount of stuff through Lars too and he was always honest with us. He's definitely been a force in the industry a long time, and he's got a hella lot of stuff. If his wedding photos are any indication, he's DEFINITELY not hurting for cash lol.

Xenophage · 04-03-2003, 11:22 AM

LOL

as I said in my letter I expect some people to leave. Sales will remain the same and so those that are still there will make the same or more than they did before. Yes before I bought the company they sold licences for 1 Year at a time. I honored all those licences till the end of 2 years and then moved to 50%. 70% was not a model you could survive with. And now 50% is not a model you can survive with.

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
LOL

as I said in my letter I expect some people to leave. Sales will remain the same and so those that are still there will make the same or more than they did before. Yes before I bought the company they sold licences for 1 Year at a time. I honored all those licences till the end of 2 years and then moved to 50%. 70% was not a model you could survive with. And now 50% is not a model you can survive with.

Shit Lars hey, didn't know you posted here

Nice to see ya man

freeme · 04-03-2003, 11:24 AM

lars

I can think of 3 solid companies paying out 50%

and their chatting traffic is all 100% cc verified

kaylacam · 04-03-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer.

Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money.

Do you know who the TRAINED of the girls was when HelloNetwork launched (later to become HelloAdult then CGL)...wanna know where a LOT of their software customized stuff came from? SAME girl...she was dating then later engaged to the guy who wrote the software....yup! You guessed it!

ME!

Darin · 04-03-2003, 11:26 AM

Lars system rocks

Xenophage · 04-03-2003, 11:26 AM

50% ? read between the lines look at the fine print run some girls on it yourself check the miniutes counted look at the holdbacks.

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaylacam

Do you know who the TRAINED of the girls was when HelloNetwork launched (later to become HelloAdult then CGL)...wanna know where a LOT of their software customized stuff came from? SAME girl...she was dating then later engaged to the guy who wrote the software....yup! You guessed it!

ME!

Sweet! Hey there sexy, btw :P

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
50% ? read between the lines look at the fine print run some girls on it yourself check the miniutes counted look at the holdbacks.

Yeah, a lot of their cash gets held back in "fees" etc.

Xenophage · 04-03-2003, 11:41 AM

Heya ladyM

yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday.
And I gots eyes and ears all over

took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread

Thanks for the kind words

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
Heya ladyM

yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday.
And I gots eyes and ears all over took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread

Thanks for the kind words

hehe I bet

Then again, word tends to travel quickly in this biz, doesn't it?

Xenophage · 04-03-2003, 11:49 AM

Like fire

Kimmykim · 04-03-2003, 12:03 PM

Is it just me or is Forest always whining and trying to stir shit up?

TheFLY · 04-03-2003, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good

I'm glad you raised payouts to webmasters -- I was sending lots of traffic and I just couldn't make money with it... The "rentention" is great but the payout was just not competitive... When did these rates change? I may try it again and see if I can make more sales...

freeme · 04-03-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Is it just me or is Forest always whining and trying to stir shit up?

as usual its just you

SleazyDream · 04-03-2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
Heya ladyM

yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday.
And I gots eyes and ears all over took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread

Thanks for the kind words

30 seconds ---- I'm surprized it took that long..........

DrGuile · 04-03-2003, 12:17 PM

I like Lars

Plat · 04-03-2003, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LegendaryLars
We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good

I like to hear that

Kimmykim · 04-03-2003, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeme

as usual its just you

as usual it's just me noticing it.

Xenophage · 04-03-2003, 01:28 PM

thanks for all the suport everyone

Hoppin on plane to phoenix

cant wait to hang out with old friends and meet new ones !

Brujah · 04-03-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

as usual it's just me noticing it.

I was just more subtle about it.

holly goodhead · 04-04-2003, 03:10 PM

Quote:

We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry.

sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

to 60% payout to those of us to DRIVE the traffic and work it too!! and so far Tricams is the best for those recurring payouts!!

dhg

steffie · 04-04-2003, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer.

Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money.

I paid 2000 dollars for the stream in ( I think it was 1999 January) they just introduced it than. They had so many problems than urgh.

After 6 month we had enough, the streams didn't work right, the customers had problems, we had lots of problems. So after the year was up they asked us for a renewel fee of $ 150.00. Than it was sold. So we paid and more problems, stream upgrades, etc etc

However I must say that we did make great money when we were online in 1999. After 2000 we didn't pay the renewel fee anymore.

Geez I wonder if my stream is still good.

I always liked Hellonetwork, Streamray, Lars, etc.. I was with Daypass before HelloNetwork.

Ah the beginning steps, They have come a long long way

Plat · 04-04-2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holly goodhead

sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

to 60% payout to those of us to DRIVE the traffic and work it too!! and so far Tricams is the best for those recurring payouts!!

dhg

webmasters come first

Carrie · 04-04-2003, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holly goodhead
sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

to 60% payout to those of us to DRIVE the traffic and work it too!! and so far Tricams is the best for those recurring payouts!!

dhg

So you advertise your own cam, send the traffic to the site through your own webmaster link to your *personal* splash page (I'm assuming through moneytree?), and then work the cam as well, yes?

Kimmykim · 04-04-2003, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by holly goodhead
sux for us 1 on 1 cam girls......Unless you are both.. then the pay out like at Tricams is 60% and gtd which is Awesome!!

How many names do you have Forest?

Serge_Oprano · 04-05-2003, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

How many names do you have Forest?

Kimmy,
YOU decide:

freeme · 04-05-2003, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

How many names do you have Forest?

only 1 that i post here as and thats this one

and she is right

oh and KK

http://www.iwc2003.com loads for everone else in the world but you it seems

need lessons on Internet Explorer?

you go IE and put your cursor in the address bar its the little thingie at the top (no not my dick) then you put,

H T T P : // www......

KK,

MikeW and I were toasting you in those pics

Cheers

holly goodhead · 04-05-2003, 08:27 AM

Quote:

So you advertise your own cam, send the traffic to the site through your own webmaster link to your *personal* splash page (I'm assuming through moneytree?), and then work the cam as well, yes?

I have actually 28 cam "ho"s on my website all linking eventually to Tricams (a couple to IF also) but the major portion of the traffic is sent to TC as they have the best payouts for the us.

so as long as my traffic goes to video i get paid too as well as shaking my phat ass on cam.

Quote:

webmasters come first

and for the record.. i don't think webmasters CUM at all!!! LMAO!!!

Just KIDDING!!!!

Rose Crans · 04-05-2003, 10:38 AM

Damn. I thought this thread was about that other message board that Dildozer invaded. That was funny.

04-03-2003, 10:42 AM	#1
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	legendary lars?? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH is that stupid banner the reason you droped payouts to your chat hosts to 35%?? How many studio owners are going to stand for that Your traffic must be hurting to drop your payouts to your talent especially the suckers that paid you 3750-5000 for lisences ohh yeah I remember the days when you were pushing 3750 lisc fees then ripped everyone off and dropped payment from 70% to them to 50% now to 35% how many american chicks do you think youll keep I know of 2 S.A. guys getting ready to leave you shortly

04-03-2003, 10:48 AM	#2
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	girls only get 35%? how much is a private show? Doesn't seem like you make much money at 35% - is that 35% of the gross or do they also take out credit card processing fees? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

04-03-2003, 11:02 AM	#6
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Is this Forests way of recruiting webmasters to promote his cams ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-03-2003, 11:06 AM	#9
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	girls make more with CGL or IF or TC ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-03-2003, 11:09 AM	#11
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	last I heard lars wasn't hurting - why pay more than he has to for the girls? all payments are recurring - lets do some math.... 35% to the girls 25% webmaster payout 15% bandwidth cost - live streaming is HUGE usage for free sites 10% credit card processing and staff (he does his own, not thrid party) 15% profit. ----- 100% this is just a guess but it's not too far off. I doubt he could do credit card processing for under 10% after you consider the salaries of the people he has doing that for him. Lars pays less upfront but a LOT more than MOST over time - and doesn't screw around the customer or anyone who promotes him. i can list 2 dozen HIGH PROFILE people in this industry that will have NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS to say about Lars... be interesting if you, Brujah, can say the same...............I doubt it. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

04-03-2003, 10:50 AM	#3
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Isn't that what TricCams pays too?

04-03-2003, 10:51 AM	#4
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	yeah but tricams has MUCH better traffic too much freee no cc traffic on streamrays sites

04-03-2003, 10:56 AM	#5
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	TriCams girls get less traffic, but all use credit cards. CamGirlsLive gets more traffic to the girls, but more freeloaders. Don't the CamGirlsLive girls charge A LOT more than TriCams so they make more money? It seems like most of the girls on TriCams charge less than $2 a minute. And x 35%, the girl gets 70 cents. So the CamGirlsLive have to work harder, but make more. Am I right?

04-03-2003, 11:03 AM	#7
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	cgl have to talk to 3-4x the number or customers to get anywhere near the amount of sales as tricams ive been on cgl ifriends vs cgl was the hardest system for the girls to make money on just do to the fact of all the 4free traffic that gets pumped thru there

04-03-2003, 11:08 AM	#10
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	i had girls on if and cgl at the same time if at the time did 40-50% more than cgl i dont do cams anymore but vs was the best by far and at 35% the girls now have to work that much harder just to make the same money at 15% those free fuckers are a pain in tha ass

04-03-2003, 11:12 AM	#12
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	35% to the girls is bullshit with all that free traffic 35% on tricams talking to people with cc is a different story

04-03-2003, 11:13 AM	#13
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Every time I've visited a cam site the girls seem to spend 50 minutes per hour without a paying customer. Pornication in its heyday, now those girls were doing private shows all the time. I've been on CGL a few times, didn't see a girl get a private show. When did Legendary Lars buy Steamray? I remember that software before it was in adult, it was called the HelloNetwork. I called and asked them about adult usage - oh my god you should have heard what kind of money they were asking for - crazy money. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

04-03-2003, 11:15 AM	#15
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	We lowerd the payouts to the girls in order to up the pay to webmasters ! To remain competative in the industry. I wont slam anyone as thats not my style. But we have models that make more on our system than any other and at the same time have models who make more on other systems. Most models now work cameras on all systems at the same time and so its kinda a moot point ! Business models change over time with the change in traffic models and competiton change is good

04-03-2003, 11:17 AM	#16
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	mutt they screwed so many studio owners i know 5 personally who paid 5k per lisc to stream. now that is per stream. if you want 5 studios its 5k per the payout was 70% because you paid the 5k then the did away with the lisc. and changed the payout to 50% so anyone who had a 70% lisc was fucked now they get 35% what next 25% i have 3 lisc owners on icq right now talking about this and 1 is going to vs in 2 weeks so lars is going to loose a good size studio owner because he keeps ripping them off i know 1 guy in fl who is pulling his girls tae money out of their pockets to spend on advertising. doenst sound like good business to me

04-03-2003, 11:22 AM	#19
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	LOL as I said in my letter I expect some people to leave. Sales will remain the same and so those that are still there will make the same or more than they did before. Yes before I bought the company they sold licences for 1 Year at a time. I honored all those licences till the end of 2 years and then moved to 50%. 70% was not a model you could survive with. And now 50% is not a model you can survive with.

04-03-2003, 11:24 AM	#21
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	lars I can think of 3 solid companies paying out 50% and their chatting traffic is all 100% cc verified

04-03-2003, 11:26 AM	#23
Darin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 345	Lars system rocks __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-03-2003, 11:41 AM	#27
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Heya ladyM yeah I dont post a lot but I read everyday. And I gots eyes and ears all over took about 30 seconds for the icq to ring off the hook on this thread Thanks for the kind words

04-03-2003, 11:49 AM	#29
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Like fire

04-03-2003, 12:03 PM	#30
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Is it just me or is Forest always whining and trying to stir shit up?

04-03-2003, 12:17 PM	#34
DrGuile Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,025	I like Lars __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 50% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal Powered by Gamma

04-03-2003, 01:28 PM	#37
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	thanks for all the suport everyone Hoppin on plane to phoenix cant wait to hang out with old friends and meet new ones !

04-05-2003, 10:38 AM	#47
Rose Crans Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 334	Damn. I thought this thread was about that other message board that Dildozer invaded. That was funny.