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Lensman · 04-02-2003, 10:26 PM

I've bought a bunch of new homes in the past couple of years, and 45K is a rip, you must be buying a KB where everything is an option.

jake2000xp · 04-02-2003, 10:34 PM

Quote:

I've bought a bunch of new homes in the past couple of years, and 45K is a rip, you must be buying a KB where everything is an option.

Len's, I agree KB IS CRAP!

However, I can see how one can easily spend 20-40k on upgrades. They never give decent carpet, tile, etc (these days just a crappy flooring credit). Perhap's a little more when you get into 7 digit's. Also i suppose it depends on the area.

Gator · 04-02-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Havent been on GFY as of late casue as many of you know Ive been working on details to this new house I bought last week. Taking ALL my fucking time.

After going to the design center for the new house today to pick up and look at "upgrades" the total was $45,000 in fucking upgrades to the new house.

Holy shit.
I was thinking we'd be getting like 10k at the most in upgrades. (cherry floors and Granite.)

Holy fuck. So much for 10k.

If this keeps up I may have to start working again for the first time in 2 years.

What the fuck is going on here?

Dude, you haven't worked in 2 years and your putting 45k worth of additions to your house, be happy. Not so bad to have to work a little doing what you are.

TheJimmy · 04-02-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by jake2000xp

Len's, I agree KB IS CRAP!

However, I can see how one can easily spend 20-40k on upgrades. They never give decent carpet, tile, etc (these days just a crappy flooring credit). Perhap's a little more when you get into 7 digit's. Also i suppose it depends on the area.

not as crap as US H....

jake2000xp · 04-02-2003, 10:43 PM

By the way, I would never do flooring through the builder, always take the flooring credit, shop it around and have it done outside of the builder.

Cheeba Filas · 04-02-2003, 10:43 PM

It's a damn shame your not here in PA I probably could save you $15k to $17k. If you live on the eastcoat let me know I always like to help out the next guy

KRL · 04-02-2003, 10:45 PM

Bone its like I said. See what I mean. These fuckers all tell you a quote and then jack it up on you.

I got ripped for $600K in extra costs above our projections on the house we built in LA.

That's why I said in the original thread on this, been there done that and never doing a custom build again.

Plat · 04-02-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
I've bought a bunch of new homes in the past couple of years, and 45K is a rip, you must be buying a KB where everything is an option.

lensman said KindBud o_0

although i dont smoke no more, i still know the hidden lingo!

Gator · 04-02-2003, 10:57 PM

If you got the dough to build a million or multi dollar place, what difference is a few extra bucks?

KRL · 04-02-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Gator
If you got the dough to build a million or multi dollar place, what difference is a few extra bucks?

Most guys that can afford to build a big house keep track of every penny and don't like being ripped off. Its the principal.

Yassi · 04-02-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Who am I kidding. My work ethic has been dead for years and I dont think I can ever revive it...

Im just fucked.

are 35 grand that cruicial for your retirement?

goBigtime · 04-02-2003, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
The scarry thing is Im making about 80% less than I made 15 months ago.

IVe been soooooooo lazy.
I really need to start working again and stop fucking around.

For the first time Im actually scared about expenses.

And Im NEVER scared about this shit.

Like I said, I may have to actually start working again.
Vacation is over.

Depending on how you made your money in the industry before, you're probably going to be faced with another bit of reality if you haven't been active for over a year & a half.

Things have changed a lot.

stanton · 04-02-2003, 11:04 PM

go back to submiting TGPs

TheFLY · 04-02-2003, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Who am I kidding. My work ethic has been dead for years and I dont think I can ever revive it...

Im just fucked.

It's fluoridation of the pineal gland man... just drink distilled water without fluoride and you'll get back your will power

TheFLY · 04-02-2003, 11:23 PM

Fuck boneprone you should be happy you have a beautiful wife that you are in love with... that's all that matters man!!!

Gator · 04-02-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Most guys that can afford to build a big house keep track of every penny and don't like being ripped off. Its the principal.

I understand that. No one likes to get ripped off. ...BUT... That HAS to be a nice crib. I am thinking the 45k is worth it.

Carrie · 04-03-2003, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
haha... have fun. Mine is actually two ponds, two catch pools, about 25 feet of stream and drops 12 feet from the top of the feature to the level of water in the last pond.

When you open the windows in my home it sounds like you're in the woods near a river or like it's raining (like I need that sound where I live).

PK is that as pretty as it sounds? Willing to share a couple of pics?

Carrie · 04-03-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Gator
If you got the dough to build a million or multi dollar place, what difference is a few extra bucks?

That's how rich guys get rich... by paying attention to what they spend and not acting like a teenager with daddy's credit card.

PersianKitty · 04-03-2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by Carrie

PK is that as pretty as it sounds? Willing to share a couple of pics?

I gotta get out and take a few more..

This was way back...(not a great cam either).... http://www.nwlink.com/~bmans/pond_jul01/gallery.html

This was just the upper portion from my deck a few weeks ago...and the greenery is just all coming back in.....

These are some my artsy landscaper took..

MetaMan · 04-03-2003, 01:00 AM

id liek to see some sites with the worlds most luxurious mansions, interior + exterior.

browsing now.

austinth · 04-03-2003, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Who am I kidding. My work ethic has been dead for years and I dont think I can ever revive it...

Im just fucked.

Nothing beats being your own boss!

boneprone · 04-03-2003, 01:40 AM

PK, I have a cousin that has a home very similar looking to yours in GigHarbor. (he posted here as "Diabetic Rage")

Beautiful to say the least!

The greenary is awsome!!

Unfortunatly Tualatin is not as green. Its more like subdivision of homes rather than a private tuck away in the quiet hills and lake areas. I just love that gig harbor feel. Looks like you have that.

Amazing.

Gman.357 · 04-03-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
You could get yourself into a luxury doublewide for that

That's a big trailer. Gotta get me one of those!

boneprone · 04-03-2003, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
I've bought a bunch of new homes in the past couple of years, and 45K is a rip, you must be buying a KB where everything is an option.

What's a "KB"??

And yeah it seemed like everything was an option or an upgrade. However the "standard" items that came with the home were nice as well, we just wanted upgrades is all.

An example would be the wood. Oak hardwoods were standard.
Nothing wrong with oak, it was very nice. We just wanted a darker wood. Cherry. Fucking expensive. Naturally they give you a credit on the oak to upgrade to the Brazillian cherry, but fuck cherry was expensive. And naturally the oak was standard only in certain parts of the home. We wanted hardwoods more or less throughout.

Same with the cabinents. Oak was standard. It was an extra 3 grand to move up to Brazilian Cherry for the cabinents.

fuckers

The tub in the master was a soaking tub with jets, very nice for a standard.. We paid a whole 2.5 grand more and got the best tub we could find. Hydromax with all the extras. Fucking raped us.

Kitchen had granite tile as standard fo the island. We wanted granite slab on the island and on the counters, and on the backslab. Fuckin got raped!!!

Tile comes standard around the herth and fireplace. We made it granite. $$ ouch.

Upgraded even little things from sinks to doors all bling bling.

We paid extra for an upgrade on a roof. Why I dont know.
The father inlaw seemed to think we needed a better roof. Fuck, this aint the street of dreams I thought. WHo cares about roofs.

I even paid an extra 250.00 to put this ethernet thing in the house I have no idea what it is or does!! I know the wiring is like a cat 5 wiring system and all the wiring is networked and shit, but I have no idea what that means. Theres some modem network shit in this one room I paid for and I dont even know what it is!!

I mean shit. All this and I still dont have a backyard.....
FUCK

hahmike · 04-03-2003, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
nah easy solution man!

Just dont let anyone have an account on to submit to your TGP, even if your signup page says to come here and ask for it ...

using this strategy, you can post all your own links and make all the cash for yourself!

Too bad you didnt think of it first, eh?

what the fuck is it with you and tgps?

Gman.357 · 04-03-2003, 01:57 AM

Bone, pay for it out of your business account, and have the contractors say it was an office addition.

Write the shit off.

GoLiaT · 04-03-2003, 03:40 AM

then after you moved in the wife will feel that you need
to buy completely new furnitures to go with the new house
...
my wife has bought new furnitures in every single room
and that my friend is also costing you a fortune

Paul Markham · 04-03-2003, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by GoGoBar

I just got a $200,000 quote for landscaping (front/back/pond) the other day. That floored me

Plus it cost us $3k just to have the guy design it.

Should live in Czech, they would landscape half the country for that money.

But what amamzes me is they charge that then three illegal Mexicans turn up on minimum wage, can't speak English and don't know the difference between a fork and a hoe.

Paul Markham · 04-03-2003, 05:26 AM

We moved into the new house two weeks ago, still unpacking.

LadyMischief · 04-03-2003, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by boneprone
I told my wife we could settle for Oak Floors, oak cabinets and skip the huge master jet tub and tile and I could buy myself a hummer instead.

I mean shit.
I was fucking serious. 45k in wood tile and granite upgrades?
Fuck that shit.

You have to consider though, that's pretty much for life.. It's a one-time investment that turns into equity and highly increases the resale value of your home. You have to put out to earn, sometimes

Herb Kornfield · 04-03-2003, 06:28 AM

I laid out $40 k on just the main living floor of my house here in the philly burbs last year. At the time, I was NUTS that I laid out that much cash, but, it is really nice to have your pad all tricked out the way YOU want it.

Last night we got invited over to the neighbors across the way from us, they saw our job and then redid their entire 1st floor (rec room, powder room, laundry, mud, and storage rooms)

My Mrs started when we got home with the "we really oughta think of updating ours as well.......)

I have to get a designer to lay this out since my office is here. My biggest concern is should I run the ethernet in the walls or just get a really nice wire rack behind all my shit so its still accessable and I dont have to worry about ripping a wall out over a few dollar ethernet cable. Also, then there are power concerns, I have 200amp service, I was pondering a kick ass power set up where there isnt a lot of drain and its all balanced out nicely.

What y'all thoughts on this one? I know that this remodel is goona be like $30k JUST for basic stuff, prolly another 10 on little things. (we have all the furniture and shit for here, its the getting rid of the 1970's look and updating to modern style............

GoGoBar · 04-03-2003, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

I even paid an extra 250.00 to put this ethernet thing in the house I have no idea what it is or does!! I know the wiring is like a cat 5 wiring system and all the wiring is networked and shit, but I have no idea what that means. Theres some modem network shit in this one room I paid for and I dont even know what it is!!

The previous owner of my house (who had it custom built) was a nut and thanks to him I now have 4 CAT5s and 4 RG6's to every room in my house (bathrooms excluded of course). And there is speaker wire (and flush mount ceiling speakers) in many of the rooms. All controlled by these boxes (this is the one in the garage, hence the unfinished wall):

If you're going to do wiring do it now. Like Herb pointed out, it's much easier to do now than after your walls are finished. And there is a lot you can do with it later on. The upgrades NEVER end

GoGoBar · 04-03-2003, 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
here in the philly burbs

All you NJ/NY/PA people better be coming to our get together:

www.redpartners.com/party/index.html

PersianKitty · 04-03-2003, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Should live in Czech, they would landscape half the country for that money.

But what amamzes me is they charge that then three illegal Mexicans turn up on minimum wage, can't speak English and don't know the difference between a fork and a hoe.

You know my landscaper???

TheFLY · 04-03-2003, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

What's a "KB"??

And yeah it seemed like everything was an option or an upgrade. However the "standard" items that came with the home were nice as well, we just wanted upgrades is all.

An example would be the wood. Oak hardwoods were standard.
Nothing wrong with oak, it was very nice. We just wanted a darker wood. Cherry. Fucking expensive. Naturally they give you a credit on the oak to upgrade to the Brazillian cherry, but fuck cherry was expensive. And naturally the oak was standard only in certain parts of the home. We wanted hardwoods more or less throughout.

If you didn't already pay, I can give you some advice about wood!

#1 Oak is a hardwood... It's strong as fuck... I'm sure your cherry is very beautiful (I'm a huge fan of wood myself), but don't fucking forget that the color of the wood is all about the stain that you use! Also notice that your Brazillian Cherry will change color over a period of 6 months (it will get darker) so keep that in mind when you buy furniture, etc. *Make sure* you use an OIL based stain -- and ask to choose the stain -- take a sample of the wood and stain it yourself to see how it looks with different color stains... also it's best if you do this test on a piece of wood that was not freshly cut -- as the fresh cut wood will have a lighter color. If I was you, I would ask them not to coat the wood with a gloss finish... it looks more natural and you can see and feel the grain with you hands (yumm) -- usually they will spray or brush on some glossy shit but this takes away the natural beauty of the wood -- and also over time (unless they use DEFT) the gloss will yellow and haze and your wood will look like shit... If you really want a glossy look that won't fade, ONLY use DEFT Clear Wood Finish, Semi-Gloss -- but I recommend against any gloss.

You *could* get oak to be exactly the same color as cherry with stain -- the only difference will be the grain, and only a wood expert would notice the difference...

MAKE SURE you take part in the staining process... the finish of the wood is really important and even some really good carpentry can look like crap if they don't pay attention to the finish...

Read this site or do some more research. Looks like Brazillian cherry is even more durable than oak so your shit will have really crisp edges if you go with this cherry... but like I said before Oak is a hardwood also and is very beautiful if stained the color that you want. If it's really the color that you want -- don't let them trick you into thinking that oak can't be darker. But anyway if you can afford it -- I'm sure the cherry will be magnificent...

http://www.wflooring.com/Technical_I..._brazilian.htm

Brazilian Cherry, when first milled is a tan/salmon color w/black striping which turns a rich deep red color over time. This species is the most popular imported species given its inherent beauty, rich coloring and superior hardness.

Color Range & Color Change:

Color Range: Brazilian Cherry varies from yellowish hues to pink/reds to dark reds with black striping. Quartered selection yields the most uniform look/color range.

Color Change: Like domestic cherry, Brazilian Cherry will change dramatically over time from the yellow/tan/salmon color when freshly milled into a deep rich reddish color. In direct sunlight, the color change will occur within a few days. Out of sunlight, it will oxidize slowly over six months. Water based finishes tend to retard the color change while oil based finishes enhance it.

TheFLY · 04-03-2003, 10:20 AM

I don't want to scare you about the staining process... It's easy as fuck. Basically after all the carpentry is finished you get the finest sandpaper grit you can buy in the hardware store and lightly wipe off all the hand jam and dirt with it... (just don't sand the edges or corners off

then just get a rag and wipe on the stain... this is really fun and your eyes will pop out of your head when you see how pretty it will look... This is the most fun part of any wood project... I'd even recommend telling them not to treat the wood at all so you can wipe on the stain yourself -- it's really fun to do... and you can't fuck anything up... maybe they will even take off some of the expense if you tell them you will stain the wood yourself...

boneprone · 04-03-2003, 11:10 AM

Pete is Like Jesus!!
A true Carpender!

This info you gave me is pretty helpful.
I had no idea this kind of cherry was sooo hard!
I know oak is a nice very hard wood. Had no idea that Brazilian cherry was so much harder!!

COOL!

Jer · 04-03-2003, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by boneprone

I know oak is a nice very hard wood. Had no idea that Brazilian cherry was so much harder!!

COOL!

That's because God is Brazilian!

DearAbby · 04-03-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Jer

That's because God is Brazilian!

Hey Jer... how "hard" is your wood?

Jer · 04-03-2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DearAbby

Hey Jer... how "hard" is your wood?

I'll say just that my wood is Brazilian

boneprone · 04-03-2003, 01:34 PM

I didnt know they had cherry trees in Brazil???
Are they pretty popular and common?

Probono · 04-03-2003, 01:53 PM

Don't feel too bad I have spent more than twice that in remodeling an older home.

Jer · 04-03-2003, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
I didnt know they had cherry trees in Brazil???
Are they pretty popular and common?

boneprone, they aren't popular and common. But we have the best ones

TheFLY · 04-03-2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
I didnt know they had cherry trees in Brazil???
Are they pretty popular and common?

Actually Boneprone, Brazil is a HUGE fucking country... look on the map it takes up a large part of south america... lots of jungles! Hehe... I remember reading that if you live in Brazil you can get some sweet furniture made from exotic woods.

sneaker · 04-03-2003, 08:55 PM

BP, the builders will make up the money they under quoted for the home build in upgrades, try to have a 3rd party do the upgrades during the build and contract them yourself.

Jer · 04-06-2003, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Jer

boneprone, they aren't popular and common. But we have the best ones

I was crazy when posted this. Yesterday I realized that "brazilian cherry" is what we call here "cerejeira"... but if I'm not mistaken they're not the cherry (fruit) threes. They're VERY popular and commom here. Lots of furniture made with brazilian cherry. At home we have some!

So brazilian cherry is one of the most popular woods for good quality furnitures.

Jer · 04-06-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Actually Boneprone, Brazil is a HUGE fucking country... look on the map it takes up a large part of south america... lots of jungles! Hehe... I remember reading that if you live in Brazil you can get some sweet furniture made from exotic woods.

So true!

Jer · 04-06-2003, 02:39 PM

I'm searching for an apartament to rent in Fortaleza, CE, Brazil (where I'm right now) but it's very hard to find one the way my fiancée and I wants. I'll be here till 4/23 so I gotta rent the apartament and buy the furniture before going back to São Paulo.

Jer · 04-06-2003, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
I'm searching for an apartament to rent in Fortaleza, CE, Brazil (where I'm right now) but it's very hard to find one the way my fiancée and I wants. I'll be here till 4/23 so I gotta rent the apartament and buy the furniture before going back to São Paulo.

Why I posted this?

Nickatilynx · 04-06-2003, 02:57 PM

boneprone,

Welcome to a world of hurt.Just went through the same.

Then I said to the wife "We could also have a pool built"

""from 30,000"" the brochure said."From" is the bitch.

Naw ended up about 65k

04-03-2003, 01:40 AM	#72
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	PK, I have a cousin that has a home very similar looking to yours in GigHarbor. (he posted here as "Diabetic Rage") Beautiful to say the least! The greenary is awsome!! Unfortunatly Tualatin is not as green. Its more like subdivision of homes rather than a private tuck away in the quiet hills and lake areas. I just love that gig harbor feel. Looks like you have that. Amazing. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

04-03-2003, 01:57 AM	#76
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Bone, pay for it out of your business account, and have the contractors say it was an office addition. Write the shit off. __________________ Ouch.

04-03-2003, 03:40 AM	#77
GoLiaT Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,130	then after you moved in the wife will feel that you need to buy completely new furnitures to go with the new house ... my wife has bought new furnitures in every single room and that my friend is also costing you a fortune __________________ "where ever you go..there you are."

04-03-2003, 05:26 AM	#79
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	We moved into the new house two weeks ago, still unpacking. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

04-03-2003, 11:10 AM	#87
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Pete is Like Jesus!! A true Carpender! This info you gave me is pretty helpful. I had no idea this kind of cherry was sooo hard! I know oak is a nice very hard wood. Had no idea that Brazilian cherry was so much harder!! COOL! __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

04-02-2003, 10:26 PM	#51
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	I've bought a bunch of new homes in the past couple of years, and 45K is a rip, you must be buying a KB where everything is an option.

04-02-2003, 10:43 PM	#55
jake2000xp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 434	By the way, I would never do flooring through the builder, always take the flooring credit, shop it around and have it done outside of the builder.

04-02-2003, 10:43 PM	#56
Cheeba Filas Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	It's a damn shame your not here in PA I probably could save you $15k to $17k. If you live on the eastcoat let me know I always like to help out the next guy

04-02-2003, 10:45 PM	#57
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Bone its like I said. See what I mean. These fuckers all tell you a quote and then jack it up on you. I got ripped for $600K in extra costs above our projections on the house we built in LA. That's why I said in the original thread on this, been there done that and never doing a custom build again.

04-02-2003, 10:57 PM	#59
Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	If you got the dough to build a million or multi dollar place, what difference is a few extra bucks?

04-02-2003, 11:04 PM	#63
stanton So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,640	go back to submiting TGPs

04-02-2003, 11:23 PM	#65
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Fuck boneprone you should be happy you have a beautiful wife that you are in love with... that's all that matters man!!!

04-03-2003, 01:00 AM	#70
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	id liek to see some sites with the worlds most luxurious mansions, interior + exterior. browsing now.

04-03-2003, 06:28 AM	#81
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	I laid out $40 k on just the main living floor of my house here in the philly burbs last year. At the time, I was NUTS that I laid out that much cash, but, it is really nice to have your pad all tricked out the way YOU want it. Last night we got invited over to the neighbors across the way from us, they saw our job and then redid their entire 1st floor (rec room, powder room, laundry, mud, and storage rooms) My Mrs started when we got home with the "we really oughta think of updating ours as well.......) I have to get a designer to lay this out since my office is here. My biggest concern is should I run the ethernet in the walls or just get a really nice wire rack behind all my shit so its still accessable and I dont have to worry about ripping a wall out over a few dollar ethernet cable. Also, then there are power concerns, I have 200amp service, I was pondering a kick ass power set up where there isnt a lot of drain and its all balanced out nicely. What y'all thoughts on this one? I know that this remodel is goona be like $30k JUST for basic stuff, prolly another 10 on little things. (we have all the furniture and shit for here, its the getting rid of the 1970's look and updating to modern style............

04-03-2003, 10:20 AM	#86
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I don't want to scare you about the staining process... It's easy as fuck. Basically after all the carpentry is finished you get the finest sandpaper grit you can buy in the hardware store and lightly wipe off all the hand jam and dirt with it... (just don't sand the edges or corners off then just get a rag and wipe on the stain... this is really fun and your eyes will pop out of your head when you see how pretty it will look... This is the most fun part of any wood project... I'd even recommend telling them not to treat the wood at all so you can wipe on the stain yourself -- it's really fun to do... and you can't fuck anything up... maybe they will even take off some of the expense if you tell them you will stain the wood yourself...

04-03-2003, 01:34 PM	#91
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I didnt know they had cherry trees in Brazil??? Are they pretty popular and common? __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

04-03-2003, 01:53 PM	#92
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	Don't feel too bad I have spent more than twice that in remodeling an older home.

04-03-2003, 08:55 PM	#95
sneaker So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 251	BP, the builders will make up the money they under quoted for the home build in upgrades, try to have a 3rd party do the upgrades during the build and contract them yourself.

04-06-2003, 02:39 PM	#98
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	I'm searching for an apartament to rent in Fortaleza, CE, Brazil (where I'm right now) but it's very hard to find one the way my fiancée and I wants. I'll be here till 4/23 so I gotta rent the apartament and buy the furniture before going back to São Paulo.

04-06-2003, 02:57 PM	#100
Nickatilynx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: International Gypsy Posts: 819	boneprone, Welcome to a world of hurt.Just went through the same. Then I said to the wife "We could also have a pool built" ""from 30,000"" the brochure said."From" is the bitch. Naw ended up about 65k __________________ Skype - Nickatilynx