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Old 04-02-2003, 03:16 AM   #51
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thehun pretty much covers all niches, you should have made more profit mate
you should try another sponsor
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Old 04-02-2003, 03:27 AM   #52
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Perhaps I am missing seomthing here - to me it sounds like he did pretty good.

First of all 5000 clickthrus from 70k hits is 7% CTR - which is really high so there is no way you qualified them - that explains your ratio.

But look at your sales to uniques ratio - 4 : 70,000 = 1 :17,500

1:17,500 is above average.

70k x 200kb max = 14gigs =$14 in b/w

$128 - $14 = $114 profit
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Old 04-02-2003, 03:32 AM   #53
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what the hell is cjb.net? that's where it came from...
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Old 04-02-2003, 03:38 AM   #54
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Old 04-02-2003, 03:42 AM   #55
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tdf probably hasn't listened to much smiths. let's go bro...

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Old 04-02-2003, 04:04 AM   #57
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Perhaps I am missing seomthing here - to me it sounds like he did pretty good.

First of all 5000 clickthrus from 70k hits is 7% CTR - which is really high so there is no way you qualified them - that explains your ratio.

But look at your sales to uniques ratio - 4 : 70,000 = 1 :17,500

1:17,500 is above average.

70k x 200kb max = 14gigs =$14 in b/w

$128 - $14 = $114 profit
So you are saying 70k x 200kb... do you think each visitor takes only 200kb? The gallery alone can take 100kb, each image may take 50k-100k ...
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Old 04-02-2003, 04:10 AM   #58
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So you are saying 70k x 200kb... do you think each visitor takes only 200kb?
Yes I am. 200kb is actually a high amount for a pic gallery.

The average for a movie gallery with 300kb movies is only 500kb per visitor.

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Old 04-02-2003, 04:12 AM   #59
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1. $128 from 5k hits is 2.5 cents per click (probably raw click) so it's ok for tgp traffic. some may recurr adding more.

2. 70k pageviews with 5k hits is a good CTR period. seems that ur design is really ok. // about $1.5 per 1k pageviews is ok as well.

3. 69gigs for 70k pageviews is not ok. that's 1M burnt per visitor, when it should be 3-4 times lower. makes me go hmm about ur experience, esp. after the phrase that 69gigs will cost u a fortune. last time i've checked it was about $20-25 on a quality host.

resume: ur results r normal, nothing serious, except some overburnt bandwidth, but even with this it's still ok.

p.s. yep cumshots r not a 'special thing' anymore.

Tuga - ur math is pretty funny
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Old 04-02-2003, 04:16 AM   #60
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aleck what math? I just said a gallery can take 100k and each pic can take 50-100k . I didnt see rich's gallery so I am only guessing. And then I asked a question, I dont see any math involved... so what's funny?
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Old 04-02-2003, 04:20 AM   #61
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I like the smiths...im rather well rounded..in more ways than one
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Old 04-02-2003, 04:20 AM   #62
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is that good or bad? lol

im terribly disapointed in the ratio
Post the gallery link and I'll critique the gallery for you. You should have made shit loads more than that.

Then again I honestly believe for you to get a hun listing it has to be a shit gallery (unless paid).
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Old 04-02-2003, 04:22 AM   #63
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70k x 200kb max = 14gigs =$14 in b/w

Thats a very LOW estimate. With a middle page listing your looking at 30 gigs easy. I even managed to burn 40 gigs on a low listing once, and it was just a 26 second gallery "28.8 averaged" with images being 30k.
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Old 04-02-2003, 04:23 AM   #64
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Whats Cjb.net?

Used to be the home of napster.....

napster.cjb.net was their homepage

oh & then guess who picked up

http://napstr.cjb.net

And then i've had this for years....

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i can tell you that we have a guy that is doing 1:170 on the
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30 gigs for a hun listing........I wish
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I could do 1:5 on the hun if I qualified my traffic like a nazi. Question is how many hits you get and how much you make off it.
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I could do 1:5 on the hun if I qualified my traffic like a nazi. Question is how many hits you get and how much you make off it.
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69gigs for 70k pageviews is not ok. that's 1M burnt per visitor, when it should be 3-4 times lower. makes me go hmm about ur experience, esp. after the phrase that 69gigs will cost u a fortune. last time i've checked it was about $20-25 on a quality host.
no no, i already used most that bandwidth, just happened ot throw it in this thread, LOL!!

This listing costed me about 26gig if im not mistaken
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A quick look on The Hun would reveal this, from a 'Richie' on the domain which lil2rich4u2 uses ;)
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I forgot he uses that domain for just about everything

The gallery itself seems light, but the images are 75-90k .
How many pics does the average visitor sees?
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A quick look on The Hun would reveal this, from a 'Richie' on the domain which lil2rich4u2 uses ;)
Not as bad a gallery as I was expecting. But still ... if he improved it ... it wouldn't have gotten listed.
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Some people here are just not the brightest crayons in the box... heh
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Old 04-02-2003, 07:02 AM   #78
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i dont argue that.
I got the CTR so aparently its the sponsor's fault.

I just figured by using a less known niche (cumshots) sponsor, id have better luck.

I think i was wrong.
P.S the hits are still coming, so the ratio is not final.
Let us just see darn gallery. Yes it could be your sponsor's fault but it could very well be your own fault so let's see the gallery. Let's see what you said to pull your click-thrus what you say to pull clicks could make a huge diff in conversion. Normally, from a free spot 4 full-month sign-ups on the first day is pretty plenty anyways. Also, as someone already told you cumshot is not a less known niche silly
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You have a text link like this on your gallery and you wonder why your conversion was bad "!!!WATCH THE FREE SAMPLE VIDEO!!!" ? You just invited all the freeloaders to download your free movies! Try with a link like "For Only 24.95/month Get all the Cum You Want!" then come and talk to me Anyways, expect to get few more sign-ups thru the week if your sponsor set cookies in surfer browsers.
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Old 04-02-2003, 07:19 AM   #80
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if I was buying the topspots on his index too I'd say the same thing.. damn a day old newbie! lol
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Much? He probably doesn't know who they are
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i'll be sure to let the hun know exactly what you think of his single largest advertiser...

Busted.
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There is even less than no money in the mainstream biz. Flippin them juicy burgers is the only way to make it to the millions.

Did I mention McDonalds' retention is fabulous and they pay out weekly?
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I got listed on the hun once all it did was eat up a ton of bandwidth and not one sign up. I have a real respect for you guys who make money off of TGP because we post on some them and it doesnt bring shit.
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I got listed on the hun once all it did was eat up a ton of bandwidth and not one sign up. I have a real respect for you guys who make money off of TGP because we post on some them and it doesnt bring shit.
Maybe you should start with tony101 or tgp101 instead of 404ing them
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KFC - chicken legs does convert better then Burger King and McDonalds'
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The Hun has good traffic. A good revshare will do 1:250 while a per sign-up won't. Either way, the money you make will probably average out.

1:250 w/ the hun? I've never converted out of like 1:600 - 1:900 on the hun, all different niches.
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Much? He probably doesn't know who they are

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Didn't know BK or MC had chick legs Chick legs at Popeyes are better thou anyways should convert better
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Tuga - yes gallery with thumbs can take ~100kb of course, but if u have 20 pics each 30-40k total usage will be around 200kb.
About 10-12% of pics an average surfer is checking out. Can vary.

adamneve - doing 1:170 on hun means nothing. doing $1k from one listing means good marketing.

lil2rich4u2 - 26 gigs sound ok for me

gothweb - no offense, but 2001 was a bit different
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aleck , if you check rich's gallery you'll see that each picture is over 80k ... I wasnt saying you should have 100k gallery and 80k pictures, I was saying it was possible, and it turned out to be the case (with the pics)
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http://www.pleasuredvds.com/galleries2/frosted/z4.html


this is my gallery.

As you can see i matched it to the sponsor as best i can.


Im not really all that sure why conversions werent better.
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1:1239 from a hun listing?

What are you pushing? Crackdollars.com?
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Old 04-02-2003, 05:45 PM   #98
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Anyways, expect to get few more sign-ups thru the week if your sponsor set cookies in surfer browsers.

does CCBill do this?
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Old 04-02-2003, 05:49 PM   #99
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does CCBill do this?
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Old 04-02-2003, 05:50 PM   #100
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does CCBill do this?
I think the default cookie is a few months. You could get more signups from bookmarkers... though with that number of sales, I wouldn't bet on it.
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