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|  09-01-2016, 06:36 AM | #1 | 
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				If you can NOT afford a decent affiliate manager, then...
			 If you can NOT afford to hire a decent affiliate manager, then please close your fucking affiliate programs! Thank you! Most of affiliate managers are literally wasting your affiliates' time. After speaking with hundreds of affiliate programs, there were only very few people actually being responsive and helpful. Kudos to them! Avoiding to reply to emails, giving stupid replies which exists to waste your time and are not of any help, giving false promises (I'm not talking about money here), all makes you lose business. Don't want to add any names here, but I'm sure most of you had similar experience. | 
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|  09-01-2016, 06:40 AM | #2 | 
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				 | Right on point man! Good for someone express it out!  
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|  09-01-2016, 06:43 AM | #3 | 
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				 | OK, I'll close my aff program... Sorry....   | 
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|  09-01-2016, 06:43 AM | #4 | 
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				 | Sometimes it makes you wonder how they even got that job in the first place | 
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|  09-01-2016, 06:52 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Yep. I think the problem many times is that they don't have a dedicated affiliate manager. Someone who has many other tasks gets this role as an extra task. And of course they won't have time to properly deal with the affiliates. Program owners, you need to have a real, dedicated affiliate manager, who does this, and nothing else. | 
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|  09-01-2016, 07:14 AM | #6 | 
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				 | How much does a good one generally cost? | 
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|  09-01-2016, 07:22 AM | #7 | |
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 Hoping we can do business very soon. You seem a very good guy & knowing your position well  
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|  09-01-2016, 07:29 AM | #8 | |
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|  09-01-2016, 08:04 AM | #9 | 
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				 | Just got an email reply from a person supposed to be of some help. Oh, man! When you just think you could not get pissed off more, they simply keep surprising you! I just had a ridiculous situation where an affiliate manager demanded (?!) to implement their "iframe" banner on a high traffic website, in order to get access to their promo content. Did anyone mention "security concerns"? It is funny when you had in mind that their company had some shady background (bells and whistles here  ). Never heard of someone being able to promote a program without a decent promo content, and they had demands in order to provide it. Yes, you've heard it right: "they had DEMANDS". Ironic, isn't it?  My advise if you ever had an experience with some unrealisting expectation from a delusional affiliate program: just ask them politely to fuck off! Their affiliate program can not live without webmasters' traffic, it's not the other way around.  | 
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|  09-01-2016, 08:05 AM | #10 | 
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|  09-01-2016, 08:13 AM | #11 | 
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|  09-01-2016, 08:56 AM | #12 | |
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|  09-01-2016, 08:58 AM | #13 | 
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				 | So this is why I work only with a few sponsors... | 
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|  09-01-2016, 09:19 AM | #14 | 
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				 | IMO affiliate programs now rely mostly on inhouse traffic so the focus is finding good media buyers for their internal sales. 
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|  09-01-2016, 09:27 AM | #15 | |
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 It's hard to get a response from many even if it's a really simple question. There is no excuse for that. | |
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|  09-01-2016, 09:31 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Well I prefer to not talk with those morons and when is necessary to ask them something they ussualy don't have a clue of nothing , most of them are uselles ! 
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|  09-01-2016, 09:36 AM | #17 | 
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				 | There ARE no "affiliate managers" anymore, just some hack employee who answers emails and tries to help but usually does not.  Now with MY Program I could afford to hire a full-time AM but why bother?  There are only about ten affiliates worth dealing with these days anyway (ok, maybe 20 tops). So I am supposed to pay someone FULL-TIME so they can what? Send you banners? Show you where the FHGs are? Help you dump videos to your tube? If you are that lame (as an affiliate) then chances are you won't send sales anyway, right? I have literally hundreds of affiliates who I contact and try to help with promotions and sales. I just checked - know how many actually send traffic/sales? 23. Also, affiliates (except for the big ones) are in NO position to demand jack squat these days. The 'demands' I get from affiliates are insane! Can I re-watermark, upload, re-direct traffic, get Mem Area access....sure ok....for 2 sales a month?  Sorry but I work ALL the time and the number ot serious affiliates who contact me for help, advice, special issues, etc is so tiny it makes me wonder what all these people signing on as affiliates (on a DAILY BASIS) are actually doing. So no, no full-time $ waster for me thanks. 
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|  09-01-2016, 09:58 AM | #18 | |
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|  09-01-2016, 10:55 AM | #19 | |
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  Finding new affiliates tho is a challenge since there are so few with any real traffic. Getting existing affiliates to promote my stuff more is the #1 thing for me.  
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|  09-01-2016, 11:37 AM | #20 | |
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 Oh, and you should start using Skype, as well, since there's a lot of mainstream guys entering this market and they never heard of ICQ.  | |
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|  09-01-2016, 11:42 AM | #21 | |
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|  09-01-2016, 12:07 PM | #22 | 
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				 | Hey Marshal,  If you need anything, you know where to find me ;-) | 
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|  09-01-2016, 01:07 PM | #23 | 
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				 | How AMs are hired these days..    (Except me, ofc) 
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|  09-01-2016, 01:16 PM | #24 | 
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|  09-01-2016, 02:10 PM | #25 | 
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				 | Yup, Nancy is great. And The Porn Nerd, you're even here every day writing posts, it's clear that you're available when you're needed. Unfortunately many program owners / affiliate managers disappear for weeks sometimes. | 
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|  09-01-2016, 08:40 PM | #26 | |
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 Admittedly I'm not doing $3k a month with them any more like I was back in 2007-2008. But I've been an affiliate of theirs for fourteen years. I'm not sure anybody who actually works there has been with them that long except maybe Peter himself. If they're not answering me, it's hard to believe they are answering anybody. | |
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|  09-01-2016, 08:47 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Damn affiliate managers messing things up   | 
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 (I use Skype for Adult but do not post the info in my sig here. Otherwise I get "Hey baby want to chat?" pings all damn day. LOL) Quote: 
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|  09-01-2016, 10:54 PM | #29 | 
| Sieg Hi! Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lissabon 
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				 | Hey baby... we can also chat here if you prefer? 
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|  09-02-2016, 05:23 AM | #30 | 
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|  09-02-2016, 05:24 AM | #31 | 
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				 | Strange, i have my skype id listed in my profile for ages and nobody ever contacted me till recently when i was contacted by AFF media buyer. | 
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|  09-02-2016, 05:27 AM | #32 | 
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				 | That remind me to following common problem - it seems most of programs, regardless what they sell, are more oriented to get new traffic sources and new affiliates then bothering with current affiliates. I mean, you could have a millionaire,philanthropist,innovator,playboy as affiliate but he just need to be informed how stuff works to get things going. But for most programs is easier to delete inactive/low level traffic affiliates. | 
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|  09-02-2016, 05:45 AM | #33 | 
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				 | What skype did you add? because i do not see any request from you...i have added you | 
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|  09-02-2016, 05:59 AM | #34 | |
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 Working on it   Should be ready by December...  
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|  09-02-2016, 06:11 AM | #35 | |
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  sorry to hear this I was an affiliate myself for 16 years, and have to agree that some off managers were not that helpful, but it made me figure things out for myself more and more. I focused on learning to not need them anymore 
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|  09-02-2016, 09:48 AM | #36 | 
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|  09-02-2016, 10:36 PM | #37 | 
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				 | I'm happy with just programs that have a decent amount of content I can use to promote with...banners and all that jazz I can do/design myself as long as I have some material to work with. Whenever I contact Ama Kings/Web Clicks they have always responded within an hour (sometimes even minutes on a weekend!) so they're one of the better programs I have dealt with. | 
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|  09-03-2016, 09:35 AM | #38 | |
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 You've always been one of those people with whom it's always a pleaesure to talk to. Too bad there's not more affiliate managers like you... | |
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|  09-03-2016, 02:53 PM | #39 | 
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				 | OK baby...what are you wearing? (Probably leather.) :D 
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|  09-03-2016, 04:13 PM | #40 | 
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|  09-21-2016, 11:29 AM | #41 | 
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				 | Today I've had the same problem with an AM of a huge adult company. They have this "supremacy" attitude, which really pisses off, yet at the same time, they are clueless about everything. And yes, they don't even have a decent promo content... | 
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|  09-21-2016, 11:34 AM | #42 | |
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  If there's something I don't know, I'll tell you but I'll also figure it out.  (I know a few programs like that, no fun to work with..) 
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|  09-21-2016, 04:02 PM | #43 | 
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				 | I wonder where all the affiliate manager rock stars making deals 24/7 are     
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|  09-21-2016, 05:50 PM | #44 | 
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				Lets Talk
			 Marshall Trans500 would love to talk and work with you, we do everything possible to assist Affiliates.... We understand the concept of making money together hit us [email protected] 
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|  09-21-2016, 08:40 PM | #45 | |
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|  09-22-2016, 09:29 AM | #46 | 
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				 | Sadly I do agree - affiliate managers have simply become pawns to the company and lack imagination, knowledge and skills - only serving as a good drinking buddy with a CC at trade shows.  Getting affiliates is easy - keeping them is a skill left best to the managers that aren't drunk or high on something. 
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|  09-28-2016, 06:06 AM | #47 | |
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				 | Quoting myself: Quote: 
 Yeah, there's no affiliate program left there. I'm sure they're still happy to track new links and pay out for sales, but supporting a fourteen-year installed base of promotional links? No, they don't do that any more. | |
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