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seeandsee · 08-13-2016, 10:14 AM

adblokers are pure evil

AdultKing · 08-13-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

adblokers are pure evil

You can't blame people for using them though.

When there are sites out there that will launch browser takeovers, six popups or pop under ads, interstitial ads and then load a page with banners those sites are forcing people to ad blockers.

The Porn Nerd · 08-13-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

You can't blame people for using them though.

When there are sites out there that will launch browser takeovers, six popups or pop under ads, interstitial ads and then load a page with banners those sites are forcing people to ad blockers.

Absolutely, and it's 100x worse in mainstream.

For Adult I think most of us (surfers included) just close that annoying LiveJasmin or Fuckbook pop-up and go about our business. Not really a huge annoyance. But mainstream? OMG I do not even want to click on some news story or Top Ten list of this or that because my computer gets bombarded with massive ads. Pop-ups, pop-unders, autoplay video ads....plus they all take FOREVER to fucking load. There's nothing more annoying than wanting to read a blog post or news story on say Huffington Post or Wall Street Journal and try to scroll down while you wait for the fucking page to load so you can finish reading a sentence.

AdultKing · 08-13-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Absolutely, and it's 100x worse in mainstream.

There are effective ways to prevent ad blockers eating into your income though. However not going to discuss those on a public forum.

The Porn Nerd · 08-13-2016, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As a former journalist watching this John Oliver clip made me....happy someone is getting it, sad how far journalism has dropped and pissed off that I can now see both sides of the argument.

AdultKing · 08-13-2016, 01:14 PM

Interesting thread here:

https://adblockplus.org/blog/trampli...ou-re-facebook

RyuLion · 08-13-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

who clicks those stupid ads??

Obviously some people do or else they wouldn't be advertising

Barry-xlovecam · 08-13-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Interesting thread here:

https://adblockplus.org/blog/trampli...ou-re-facebook

More interesting here :0)

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Adblock Plus and (a little) more

https://adblockplus.org/blog/accepta...d-monetization

Acceptable Ads explained: monetization · 2016-02-25 14:15 by Ben Williams

Internally, we talk about Acceptable Ads all the time. Ever since we decided to take the middle way, choosing not to block all the things but instead support publishers by creating “Acceptable Ads,” there’s been a simmering cauldron of discussion in our office – as well as engaging conversations with advertisers, publishers, and our open source community – about whether allowing non-intrusive ads is working.

^* Over the top monetization *^ seems to be the issue

AdultKing · 08-13-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

More interesting here :0)

Yeah Adblock Plus has a pay for white listing program but it only affects 10% of white listed sites. 90% of sites that comply with the acceptable ads standard are whitelisted for free.

However if you don't like Adblock Plus there's always uBlock

https://www.ublock.org

uBlock is free, open source, has more blacklists available and generally captures much more than Adblock Plus.

Paul Markham · 08-14-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Volume is no stranger in success.

You either have to be small and specialized or have scale to make money.

You only have to look at Walmart, Amazon and Department stores.
Supporting free porn or cams with ads has seen its day unless some new technology steps in to change the equation.

Adblocker may be the best thing that ever happened to the Internet as strategies monetizing content may become based more on merit.

Imagine a conversion rate; of
1998-2000
2001-2008
2008 2012
2012-2016

Then compare the stats on free porn sites. We have seen a continual decline in stats along with a continual incline on surfers on free sites. We who sell content should be encouraging surfers to use adblockers, not bitching because we may have to go back to giving away less free porn.

Paul Markham · 08-14-2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

As a former pornographer watching this John Oliver clip made me....happy someone is getting it, sad how far porn has dropped and pissed off that I can't now see both sides of the argument.

Edited to make it right.

What I don't get is all the bitching from people buying ads. Don't they realise without ad-supported Tube Sites, there would be no Tube sites sucking up all the traffic?

That's the other side to this porn argument.

Paul Markham · 08-14-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

adblokers are pure evil

Why?

Because you can't sell traffic?
Because 99.9% of porn consumers no longer pay for porn on sites your ad sales pay for?
Because it might mean publishers can make more sales?
Because affiliates can create sites that more effective than squeezing 1-5,000 from Tube ad clicks?

Why are they evil?

I see them as the destruction or decrease of free porn. At least stopping the steady decline of surfers migrating to free porn sites. Maybe you want that to increase.

The Porn Nerd · 08-14-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Edited to make it right.

What I don't get is all the bitching from people buying ads. Don't they realise without ad-supported Tube Sites, there would be no Tube sites sucking up all the traffic?

That's the other side to this porn argument.

Well, I can see why some in this Industry are freaking out about adblockers. As a paysite owner I agree with you (shocking? LOL) that adblockers are good for business. But remember, a LOT of this Industry is based around the traffic circle jerk. I see this a lot at shows I've attended. The only people exhibiting are cams, dating (naturally), billers and ad companies.

So when the ROI of the circle jerk decreases by as much as 50% there go the margins (profits) of these ad companies and ad buyers. They are not interested in "content" per se, or providing the surfer with a good user experience. They are interested in pure, hard NUMBERS - and any way they can get to them. So that's why they are freaking out. It's understandable.

Barry-xlovecam · 08-14-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

[T]hey (*advertisers) are interested in pure, hard NUMBERS - and any way they can get to them. So that's why they are freaking out. It's understandable.

It makes it too easy -- order ads and pay the bill.

SEO and Landing Pages are a lot of work -- that costs investment money and time. When network ads no longer show the ROMI then advertisers will find new ways.

AdultKing · 08-14-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I see them as the destruction or decrease of free porn. At least stopping the steady decline of surfers migrating to free porn sites. Maybe you want that to increase.

The Paul Markham Experience is on again folks.

Sorry Paul, but yet again, you're wrong.

I am running AdBlock Plus and uBlock side by side.

I went to PornHub and AdBlock Plus blocked 7 resources, uBlock blocked 15 however there are still ads.

Top of front page:

See the banner to the right, loaded fine and bypassed the two best ad blockers

Lower portion of front page:

3 ads one for Brazzers and the other two for dating, all bypassing the two best ad blockers.

Now while it's true I might have evaded a pop under, and maybe even some other tracking resources, I still see four ads before leaving the front page and delving further into the site.

Ad Blockers cannot and will not stop all ads. They will not harm companies like MindGeek to the extent you would wish them to. Rather than blabbering on in every thread about things that you do not understand, why don't you actually install some ad blockers and find out for yourself how effective they are.

https://ublock.org/

https://adblockplus.org/

Barry-xlovecam · 08-14-2016, 03:26 PM

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</div></div><object data="https://d1zqiu3u1zvqy8.cloudfront.net/x.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" id="e80v3s5iq1471212977826_1471212983551_vid" height="100%" width="100%"><param value="src=http://cdn11.yuiop.trade/bz/315/300/580057/uploadMP4.mp4&amp;amp;autoplay=true&amp;amp;preload=&amp;amp;loop=true" name="flashvars"><param value="all" name="allowNetworking"><param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess"><param value="transparent" name="wmode"></object>

I keep Flash disabled so only the player skin loaded.

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<div id="apo74naohauamyjlg1471213185332_1_1471213186973"></div><object data="https://d1zqiu3u1zvqy8.cloudfront.net/x.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" id="apo74naohauamyjlg1471213185332_1_1471213186973_vid" height="100%" width="100%"><param value="src=http://cdn11.yuiop.trade/bz/300/250/559644/uploadMP4.mp4&amp;amp;autoplay=true&amp;amp;preload=&amp;amp;loop=true" name="flashvars"><param value="all" name="allowNetworking"><param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess"><param value="transparent" name="wmode"></object>

look at the subdomain name LOL ://d1zqiu3u1zvqy8.cloudfront.net/x.swf"

No pop over/unders open but were they counted and charged the advertiser for the no view? Our abysmal click throughs (CTR) on all adult websites indicate this.

Relic · 08-14-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I keep Flash disabled so only the player skin loaded.

It's smart to enable it for specific domains only.

AdultKing · 08-14-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I keep Flash disabled so only the player skin loaded.

If you don't have Flash installed at all then you'll fall back to HTML5 on many sites.

This happens on XVideos and PornHub.

Any site that hasn't abandoned Flash yet is going to lose a lot of traffic as Flash support is removed from browsers entirely over time.

DBS.US · 08-14-2016, 03:50 PM

Who's still on Facebook besides my grandmother?

AdultKing · 08-14-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Who's still on Facebook besides my grandmother?

Paul Markham

Barry-xlovecam · 08-14-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Who's still on Facebook besides my grandmother?

https://zephoria.com/top-15-valuable...ok-statistics/

I think it is a colossal time wasting trap personally. However, I am not the demographic they get

kane · 08-14-2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Who's still on Facebook besides my grandmother?

As of the second quarter of 2016, Facebook had 1.71 billion monthly active users. So, well, a lot of people are still actively using Facebook.

Paul Markham · 08-14-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

So when the ROI of the circle jerk decreases by as much as 50% there go the margins (profits) of these ad companies and ad buyers. They are not interested in "content" per se, or providing the surfer with a good user experience. They are interested in pure, hard NUMBERS - and any way they can get to them. So that's why they are freaking out. It's understandable.

Those freaking out will have to adapt or die. The good thing is if adblockers can't fund free porn, they will be adapting in a far wealthier industry. Instead of making it poorer.

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