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Old 08-02-2016, 09:14 AM   #1
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Trumps Business Failures

Trump is trying to position himself as a "business leader" but it seems like everything he does turns to crap. Also seems like every decision he has ever made has been a bad one.

Donald Trump's Many Business Failures, Explained
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Well his celebrity apprentice show was a massive success. Also seems to own a lot of buildings and hotels that haven't fallen down. Seems like a success to me.

Oh wait, let me read the article first...

... actually I won't. I'll just tune into cnn
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:26 AM   #3
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Trump is trying to position himself as a "business leader" but it seems like everything he does turns to crap. Also seems like every decision he has ever made has been a bad one.
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#324 Donald Trump
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$4.5 Billion

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When you consider the fact that he has so many failures and still maintains a wealthy lifestyle, you can't help but wonder how much of a "self-made" man he really is. Even with all of those fuck ups, his daddy's name has brought him pretty far.

Without that winning lucky DNA, he would just be some loser working at 7-11 and getting his ass beat by crackhead Charlie on the way home to mommy's basement.
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The man is a billionaire, he pays his employees fairly unlike the 'successful' slave drivers such as Wal Mart, McDonalds, Amazon etc. Yes, it's a bit harder for the nice guy to get rich, but Trump has still managed it. This is the type of business person who we should all want in power, not selfish Wal Mart style slave-whippers, those are the psychopaths who would be better off behind bars, but they're not and they have deep ties to Shillary who should also be jailed.

If you vote for Shillary you're either super-rich or super-brainwashed
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#324 Donald Trump
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Yes what a fuck up.
Seems his value is very difficult to gauge....

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And while Trump is quick to boast that his purported billions prove his business acumen, his net worth is almost unknowable given the loose standards and numerous outright misrepresentations he has made over the years. In that 2007 deposition, Trump said he based estimates of his net worth at times on ?psychology? and ?my own feelings.? But those feelings are often wrong?in 2004, he presented unaudited financials to Deutsche Bank while seeking a loan, claiming he was worth $3.5 billion. The bank concluded Trump was, to say the least, puffing; it put his net worth at $788 million, records show. (Trump personally guaranteed $40 million of the loan to his company, so Deutsche coughed up the money. He later defaulted on that commitment.)
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When you consider the fact that he has so many failures and still maintains a wealthy lifestyle, you can't help but wonder how much of a "self-made" man he really is. Even with all of those fuck ups, his daddy's name has brought him pretty far.

Without that winning lucky DNA, he would just be some loser working at 7-11 and getting his ass beat by crackhead Charlie on the way home to mommy's basement.
Half the money he raised last month for his campaign was money he lent to his campaign again.

Notice all his small venues now? Can't afford to rent the big arenas and very few people are wanting to goto his rallies now. He just fired his liaison to the GOP.
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Half the money he raised last month for his campaign was money he lent to his campaign again.

Notice all his small venues now? Can't afford to rent the big arenas and very few people are wanting to goto his rallies now. He just fired his liaison to the GOP.
I have not noticed; I don't watch his speeches. I don't watch any of them.

But come to think of it the clicks I've been seeing.... They do look small. They never show the crowds any more.
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I have not noticed; I don't watch his speeches. I don't watch any of them.

But come to think of it the clicks I've been seeing.... They do look small. They never show the crowds any more.
Yes his last big event only had 1000 people. The one today in Virginia was so small, and in such close quarters, he could hear a baby cry and told the mother to leave with the baby
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The man is a billionaire, he pays his employees fairly unlike the 'successful' slave drivers such as Wal Mart, McDonalds, Amazon etc. Yes, it's a bit harder for the nice guy to get rich, but Trump has still managed it. This is the type of business person who we should all want in power, not selfish Wal Mart style slave-whippers, those are the psychopaths who would be better off behind bars, but they're not and they have deep ties to Shillary who should also be jailed.

If you vote for Shillary you're either super-rich or super-brainwashed
Funny that Hillary, Bill, and Trump were all on Jeff Epstein's plane as guests yet you fail to realize the conspiracy. I thought you knew about these things?
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Seems his value is very difficult to gauge....

According to the article:

And while Trump is quick to boast that his purported billions prove his business acumen, his net worth is almost unknowable given the loose standards and numerous outright misrepresentations he has made over the years. In that 2007 deposition, Trump said he based estimates of his net worth at times on ?psychology? and ?my own feelings.? But those feelings are often wrong?in 2004, he presented unaudited financials to Deutsche Bank while seeking a loan, claiming he was worth $3.5 billion. The bank concluded Trump was, to say the least, puffing; it put his net worth at $788 million, records show. (Trump personally guaranteed $40 million of the loan to his company, so Deutsche coughed up the money. He later defaulted on that commitment.)
$788 million, what a loser businessman!
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$788 million, what a loser businessman!
How much did his daddy give him?

How many people lost all of their money while Trump got rich? Almost every business Trump is involved in goes under while Trump makes money.
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its not the same when a rich man fails...he has business connections and advisers and money coming out of the ass etc...you have to be really incapable to repeatedly fail so many times...like really really incapable...the only thing he is good at is paying people to build buildings with daddys money...fortunately for him, building code prevents his buildings from failing LOL...
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He lied about having a list of criminals or not a good citizen.

Anyone with suspicions of crimes, and he say he has a list to prove it, should tell the police.

I suspect he's a serial liar.
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Half the money he raised last month for his campaign was money he lent to his campaign again.

Notice all his small venues now? Can't afford to rent the big arenas and very few people are wanting to goto his rallies now. He just fired his liaison to the GOP.
Hillary couldn't even get triple digits at her appearance in Cleveland. She canceled her next. Meanwhile her buddy the Mayor has the fire marshal shut down Trumps rally at 1000 in a venue that would hold 4300 with tables and chairs leaving thousands outside and unable to attend... I would love to see Hillary rent a arena. That would be the emptiest event in town and the laughing stock of the country..

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Hillary couldn't even get triple digits at her appearance in Cleveland. She canceled her next. Meanwhile her buddy the Mayor has the fire marshal shut down Trumps rally at 1000 in a venue that would hold 4300 with tables and chairs leaving thousands outside and unable to attend... I would love to see Hillary rent a arena. That would be the emptiest event in town and the laughing stock of the country..
I would like to see American politics get away from "Arean Showboating" and on to how they would solve the huge problems they have. With more than soundbites from a person who will find excuses for failure.

The UK had a year of the Establishment telling everyone how great it is to be in the EU. It's just been revealed that in that period Home Ownership has dropped to levels they had 30 years.

Unconnected you may say, but the Brits voted OUT. They ignored the lies.

Trump is right the American Dream is dead for most Americans. Migration, Trade, Exported Jobs, Military spending and Wars all have a lot to do with this. The best thing for the lower working class and unemployed is they're now included in Obama Care. Not as good as the European Model, but better than it was. He's going to do away with it and replace it with what?

When it's so easy to pick apart his promises, it's no surprise he doesn't explain how he will carry them through.
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rochard. you reside in a self made cocoon of information you selected to fit a predetermined narrative in your mind.

trump owns hundreds of businesses. he runs virtually none of them himself. he hires people to run them. overall, trump has been far more successful than he has been a failure, as evidenced by the 757 he flies around the country in. he had no planes when starting out.

if you think his entire empire was built of deceit, you are a dullard. most of the success is real estate. the failures you obsess about are not owning buildings.

some of his bad business have been run so bad they look like frauds. its not clear that there is deliberate fraud as opposed to negligence. the upcoming trial should shed light on this, right before the election. im sure you think this will kill trump. I think russia dumping hilarys server will kill hilary. we see what we want to see. at least i admit that i do this.

you just keep listening to CNN. they will tell you what to think.

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There's no doubt he's a successful businessman but that business savvy has no place in politics and no one in their right mind would want him running one of the most important countries (if not the most important) in the world. /end thread
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There's no doubt he's a successful businessman .....
I disagree. You give me two hundred million dollars and then come back and check up on me in twenty years and I'm pretty sure I'll have a lot more than two hundred million dollars. Trump is where he is at today because of his father, plain and simple.
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I disagree. You give me two hundred million dollars and then come back and check up on me in twenty years and I'm pretty sure I'll have a lot more than two hundred million dollars. Trump is where he is at today because of his father, plain and simple.
no you don't.

And now it's 200 million already? Number keeps getting higher.

Why don't you support your candidate for a change and fill up a couple of seats instead of this relentless Trump obsessing? She needs it dude.

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I disagree. You give me two hundred million dollars and then come back and check up on me in twenty years and I'm pretty sure I'll have a lot more than two hundred million dollars. Trump is where he is at today because of his father, plain and simple.

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no you don't.

And now it's 200 million already? Number keeps getting higher.
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I don't know what the amount was. His daddy invested a lot of money into Donald Trump before he died, and then left money and god only knows what investments / projects behind for Trump. He's lost that money multiple times; The only way he's come back is because the banks would give him more money.

If the banks gave me a $200 million loan every time I fucked something up, I'd be rich too.

Can you name three businesses Trump owns that hasn't gone under or been involved in a legal dispute?

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Why don't you support your candidate for a change and fill up a couple of seats instead of this relentless Trump obsessing? She needs it dude.
I don't have a candidate in this race. I am voting Clinton only because Trump must be defeated at any cost.
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lets hear some of your successes in life...

"but... but... if I only I had started with $$ like Trump did, it would be different..."

can you explain how come there have been 1000s of million+ lottery winners and none of them ever did anything noteworthy with their lives? can you name a single lottery winner ever that became a billionaire? or perhaps think of countless number of adult webmasters that sold their businesses for 7+ figures over the years? can you name any that reached any level of success afterwards?

after all, all you need is some seed $$ to become a billionaire, eh?

the truth is that "I didn't start with $$" is a just a bullshit excuse for ones own failure in life... there have been countless number of people that started with nothing at all and earned 7, 8 or 9+ figures, no reason at all why you couldn't have been one of them...
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You won't need to vote, the Banker's will have a way of dealing with him, they always do
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lets hear some of your successes in life...

"but... but... if I only I had started with $$ like Trump did, it would be different..."

can you explain how come there have been 1000s of million+ lottery winners and none of them ever did anything noteworthy with their lives? can you name a single lottery winner ever that became a billionaire? or perhaps think of countless number of adult webmasters that sold their businesses for 7+ figures over the years? can you name any that reached any level of success afterwards?

after all, all you need is some seed $$ to become a billionaire, eh?

the truth is that "I didn't start with $$" is a just a bullshit excuse for ones own failure in life... there have been countless number of people that started with nothing at all and earned 7, 8 or 9+ figures, no reason at all why you couldn't have been one of them...
Rochard is a huge success. Don't you remember his master bedroom is bigger and better than Ronaldo's NYC penthouse was? And the view of the fence? Way better than Central Park. That thread is when I realized Rochard had made it.
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Half the money he raised last month for his campaign was money he lent to his campaign again.

Notice all his small venues now? Can't afford to rent the big arenas and very few people are wanting to goto his rallies now. He just fired his liaison to the GOP.
You got that right. Today he struggled to get a hundred people in the hall in Jacksonville. Campaign OVER!

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You got that right. Today he struggled to get a hundred people in the hall in Jacksonville. Campaign OVER!

Yes and Americans know Jacksonville as a white trash oasis, even Wikipedia knows this "It is the city's last oasis of pure, unadulterated Redneck AKA White Trash"

You wouldn't want to brag about big crowds in red neck central for a general election audience.

See how he does in Des Moines next week, it won't be huuuuuge in guessing
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Yes and Americans know Jacksonville as a white trash oasis, even Wikipedia knows this "It is the city's last oasis of pure, unadulterated Redneck AKA White Trash"

You wouldn't want to brag about big crowds in red neck central for a general election audience.

See how he does in Des Moines next week, it won't be huuuuuge in guessing
Last week he had 2400 in Davenport and 3000 in Cedar Rapids. So I'd expect similar numbers in Des Moines.

Big crowds, top GOP brass turn out for Trump

How did Clinton do in Omaha, when she campaigned with the Oracle of Omaha, Warren Buffet again?



LOL. Trump has lots of issues, but getting good crowds out to see him is not one of them.
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Old 08-04-2016, 01:18 AM   #38
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And all the GOP can do is put an oaf up as an opponent.

That's the disgrace of American Politics.
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