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Old 03-30-2003, 07:26 PM   #1
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Something for all the war mongers...

These have probably been posted but I had only seen one of them so here they are... again?



http://www.grouchymedia.com/
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Old 03-30-2003, 07:58 PM   #2
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wow! the editing of those videos is incredible! it blows my mind
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Old 03-30-2003, 08:17 PM   #3
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yeah the newest one is definitely Shock and Awe quality. And he's an amateur, these were his first attempts at anything with video. Everything was found on the Net. He's slow though, he says he has tons of requests for new ones but he says he can only do a few a year.


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War mongers love war as long as they aren't the ones being shot at and the bombs aren't falling on their city.
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Old 03-30-2003, 08:22 PM   #5
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haha thats right, it is those Star Trek nerds behind their computers

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Old 03-30-2003, 08:34 PM   #6
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What I find more sad and pathetic as the days go by is those who are "anti-war," are no better than Bush or the so called "war mongers."

I mean Bush went into this whole thing starting with Afghanistan by saying "you are either with us or against us."

The anti- war people pretty much sum it up as though pro-war = pro death...kinda like thinking pro choice = pro death when it does not.

This is not a black and white worl, this is a world with a whole helluva lot of grey areas...and this war hits the whole spectrum.

I am anti-war as is any sane person...no one in their right mind wants to inflict death, destroy lives whether that's physically, mentally or even financially...but I understand that sometimes bad things have to happen in this world.

People don't want us policing the world but the sad fact that is exactly what we have to do because no one else has the balls to do it. It's an ugly job but sometimes it has to be done.

Whatever the ultimate reasons are for going to war they don't always jibe with mine. In other words I support this war if it maybe makes this world a safer place, and if some rich corporate asshole benefits from it...not much I'm going to be able to do about it because the rich corporate assholes will find a way to benefit from it either way...just look at the French, the German and Russians who are doing biz with Iraq, and the Americans who did biz in the past.

If you think your little anti-war protest will stop what has dictated world policies for hundreds and thousands of years you're a bigger fool than I thought...and I'm talking about money.

So I guess this makes me a "war monger," naw fuck that...if you can't see the shades of grey then you're the blind one.
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Old 03-30-2003, 08:37 PM   #7
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Okay im a geek but in bombs over bagdad, there is alot of footage of the f22, it isn't deployed right now, but still cool.

Course when our kids die isnt as cool is it.

Still,,,
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What I find more sad and pathetic as the days go by is those who are "anti-war," are no better than Bush or the so called "war mongers."

I mean Bush went into this whole thing starting with Afghanistan by saying "you are either with us or against us."

The anti- war people pretty much sum it up as though pro-war = pro death...kinda like thinking pro choice = pro death when it does not.

This is not a black and white worl, this is a world with a whole helluva lot of grey areas...and this war hits the whole spectrum.

I am anti-war as is any sane person...no one in their right mind wants to inflict death, destroy lives whether that's physically, mentally or even financially...but I understand that sometimes bad things have to happen in this world.

People don't want us policing the world but the sad fact that is exactly what we have to do because no one else has the balls to do it. It's an ugly job but sometimes it has to be done.

Whatever the ultimate reasons are for going to war they don't always jibe with mine. In other words I support this war if it maybe makes this world a safer place, and if some rich corporate asshole benefits from it...not much I'm going to be able to do about it because the rich corporate assholes will find a way to benefit from it either way...just look at the French, the German and Russians who are doing biz with Iraq, and the Americans who did biz in the past.

If you think your little anti-war protest will stop what has dictated world policies for hundreds and thousands of years you're a bigger fool than I thought...and I'm talking about money.

So I guess this makes me a "war monger," naw fuck that...if you can't see the shades of grey then you're the blind one.
You're just a conformist trying to rationalise your pathetic conformity.
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In his first video where you see the shock wave in front of the F18 near the end that is fucking cool I have seen it in person on a Tiger Cruise, when i was a kid.
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" In other words I support this war if it maybe makes this world a safer place"

Will you feel safer when the war finish? I wouldn't count a lot on this.
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too bad these shits are so full of themselves that they don't realize that the conflict is so much bigger than them. "Grouchy" included.

Cool editing and all, but I bet Mr Gouchy would be the first one in line to shit his pants if someone released nerve gas in his US city as retaliation for the US government's arrogant behavior.
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"We are gonna put a major smack-down on the fucking taliban towel heads."

Superior marksmanship .. blah blah ... any climate ... blah blah ... accurate boms right thru your window ... blah blah ...

Sure - too bad you have yet to find the main goat in the herd.
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wow! the editing of those videos is incredible! it blows my mind

Are you being facetious?
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" In other words I support this war if it maybe makes this world a safer place"

Will you feel safer when the war finish? I wouldn't count a lot on this.
Only time will tell...I gave up my psychic duties when I learned I didn't have any
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You're just a conformist trying to rationalise your pathetic conformity.
Yes, as opposed to all the non-conformist folks who all post the SAME anti-war, anti-American rhetoric over and over and over. Or those truly unique individuals that get together in groups of thousands waving the same signs, chanting the same slogans and rioting as a single body.

Implying that something is "wrong" with people who don't hold your viewpoint (usually that they are stupid, evil or both) is an old trick and it's a lame trick. Try to support your bullshit with facts instead of taking weak jabs at people's character.

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I think that actually that we either fight or pull back within our borders. There is not much inbetween.

usama was enboldened by Somalia he has said that many times, he thinks we are weak. Japan thought the same thing in 1941.

Sometimes bullies and assholes just need to be slapped down.
It is the only thing they respect, and understand.

That is very simplistic I know, and I know we are going to have problems because we are fighting, BUT i dont think that our chances of being attacked will be any higher than there were before 9/10/01 - probably lower.

We will get lone wolf attacks in fact im surprised we havent had them yet.

The world was a much better place after the POS dictators of the 20th century were wiped out. The world will be a better place.

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Yes, as opposed to all the non-conformist folks who all post the SAME anti-war, anti-American rhetoric over and over and over. Or those truly unique individuals that get together in groups of thousands waving the same signs, chanting the same slogans and rioting as a single body.

Implying that something is "wrong" with people who don't hold your viewpoint (usually that they are stupid, evil or both) is an old trick and it's a lame trick. Try to support your bullshit with facts instead of taking weak jabs at people's character.

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Anyone who believes their government is an idiot... and a conformist.
I guess that makes you just an idiot.
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I guess that makes you just an idiot.
I don't believe what my government tells me.
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I don't believe what my government tells me.
So then what does that make you?
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So then what does that make you?
A free thinker.

You probably don't know what that is.

Do a google search. That may help you.
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A free thinker.

You probably don't know what that is.

Do a google search. That may help you.

You're not a free thinker. I stand by my original statment that you are an idiot.
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A free thinker.

You probably don't know what that is.

Do a google search. That may help you.
Actually you are a dissident at the very least, and a borderline anarchist at worst Joe. Your posts have made it obvious to me that you are hardly peaceful, but rather full of hatred and bitterness that is so blind it is on the verge of ridiculous.



Spare me the denial. You are so full of hatred you crap bullets.
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A free thinker would believe some things and not others based on the situation. Do you think every single thing the government says is a lie? If the government says it it can't be true?
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A free thinker would believe some things and not others based on the situation. Do you think every single thing the government says is a lie? If the government says it it can't be true?
My views are based on a variety of sources.

I'd say 80% of the things governments say are lies. So they can't be believed.
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You're not a free thinker. I stand by my original statment that you are an idiot.
I am a free thinker. And you're a fat conformist.

But life's like that. Get used to it.
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I am a free thinker. And you're a fat conformist.

But life's like that. Get used to it.

Resorting to the fat jokes? Is that free thinking at it's best?

Why am I a conformist? Because I support my government and country in this action we are taking?

Since so many people are against this war it would seem to me that you are the conformist here Joe.

Additionally, doing the right thing is hardly ever popular.
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It is the mark of a true "free thinker" to pull magical percentages out of his ass.




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Resorting to the fat jokes? Is that free thinking at it's best?

Why am I a conformist? Because I support my government and country in this action we are taking?

Since so many people are against this war it would seem to me that you are the conformist here Joe.

Additionally, doing the right thing is hardly ever popular.
You are fat aren't you?

Yes, you are a conformist because you support your government and your country in this war. You believe your governments lies. Why don't you learn to think for yourself? I guess it's hard when you've been indoctrinated your whole life... it's just the way things are in the USA. Pledges of allegience.. God bless America. You're just another cog in the big machine. Patriotism is just another religion and your mind is imprisoned by it.

I'm against this war for my own reasons. I doubt they are the same as other anti-war posters on GFY.
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I might have to re-register as Joe Strummer.
It's just an estimate based on my own experience. What would your guess be? 0%?
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can some antiwar protester (for this war)
Please tell me their reasons?
Please Email them to me.

I just want to know the reasons, I don't want you to get flamed on the board, so please email them to me.

Most People should be against war, war for no reason Good reason that is. I am for this war, I would of changed how it was conducted, but I am for this.

I would like to know some of the good reasons people are against it..

Please do not just say
war is bad
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You are fat aren't you?

Yes, you are a conformist because you support your government and your country in this war. You believe your governments lies. Why don't you learn to think for yourself? I guess it's hard when you've been indoctrinated your whole life... it's just the way things are in the USA. Pledges of allegience.. God bless America. You're just another cog in the big machine. Patriotism is just another religion and your mind is imprisoned by it.

I'm against this war for my own reasons. I doubt they are the same as other anti-war posters on GFY.
I doubt it. Your reasons probably conform to the same reasons as everyone else. You are not a freethinker. You are just another mindless anti-ware, anti-government, anti-US drone spouting off the same arguments. You thoughts, ideas, and posts prove that fact without a doubt.

As far as me being a conformist, hardly. I didn't say I believe everything my government tells me you did. I believe what I choose to believe based on my own ideas and research on the matter and on this one I happen to agree with my government.

Oh... by the way. I am fat but you know what? I can always loose weight however you will always be an idiot and there is not a damn thing you can do about that.
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I doubt it. Your reasons probably conform to the same reasons as everyone else. You are not a freethinker. You are just another mindless anti-ware, anti-government, anti-US drone spouting off the same arguments. You thoughts, ideas, and posts prove that fact without a doubt.

As far as me being a conformist, hardly. I didn't say I believe everything my government tells me you did. I believe what I choose to believe based on my own ideas and research on the matter and on this one I happen to agree with my government.

Oh... by the way. I am fat but you know what? I can always loose weight however you will always be an idiot and there is not a damn thing you can do about that.
Like I said before, if an invading army were shooting at your fat arse and bombing your city, you'd change your mind pretty damn quick.

It's pretty comfy sitting behind that computer isn't it?

9/11 obviously didn't wake you people up. It's going to take much, much more I see.

Good luck!
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Oh... by the way. I am fat but you know what? I can always loose weight however you will always be an idiot and there is not a damn thing you can do about that.
I'll take you on in any IQ test anytime, anywhere, fat boy.

And I'll kick your flabby arse.

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Like I said before, if an invading army were shooting at your fat arse and bombing your city, you'd change your mind pretty damn quick.

It's pretty comfy sitting behind that computer isn't it?

9/11 obviously didn't wake you people up. It's going to take much, much more I see.

Good luck!


Looks like you have no problem fireing off the wit and wisdom of JoeSixpack from behind you little box too.

As far as you last statement all I can say is bring it.

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If it makes you feel better to think that then who am I to burst your bubble?
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Like I said before, if an invading army were shooting at your fat arse and bombing your city, you'd change your mind pretty damn quick.
Not if my country's leader was Saddam Hussein.


I would be fucking cheering on the "invaders".
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But life's like that. Get used to it.
A free thinker. You are just a troll, nothing more.
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And I'll kick your flabby arse.

IQ IQ level and common sense are not synonymous. You are certainly short on common sense and probably not very high on IQ. A troll, just a troll, nothing more.
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:20 PM   #41
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A free thinker. You are just a troll, nothing more.
A free thinker must be a hard concept for an old conformist like you to understand... You're probably the biggest conformist of all the posters on GFY. But I guess you need to be a conformist to get into the military to begin with.

Maybe one day you'll understand, old man. But probably not.
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:20 PM   #42
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IQ IQ level and common sense are not synonymous. You are certainly short on common sense and probably not very high IQ. A troll, just a troll, nothing more.
I'll take you on too. And win.
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:23 PM   #43
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This accusing people who support the forced removal of the Hussein regime of being conformists smacks of being just as empty and moronic as those that accuse them of being "brainwashed" by CNN.


"you must be brainwashed"

"You're a conformist. I however, and a free thinker"



good God that's funny.
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This accusing people who support the forced removal of the Hussein regime of being conformists smacks of being just as empty and moronic as those that accuse them of being "brainwashed" by CNN.


"you must be brainwashed"

"You're a conformist. I however, and a free thinker"



good God that's funny.
Only a conformist would find that amusing.

By the way, which totalitarianist regime is next?

If the USA is willing to wage war to "free" the Iraqi people I guess we can expect the USA to wage another 20 or so wars to bring democracy to all the oppressed peoples of the world!

Conservatives, repeat after me: "It's NOT about oil!"

Only complete idiots could buy Dubya's lies.

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I'll take you on too. And win.
My IQ is not very high, but I am not ashamed of it as it is high enough to understand most things and that combined with common sense (which I profess to have) is good enough for me. If I recall correctly it was 129 when I was attending college, but don't embarrass me by asking which test it was because I do not remember, but it was one of the big three that is normally used.
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Anyone who believes their government is an idiot... and a conformist.
Yes, I see your little Einstein quote. I wonder if he was as close-minded as you.

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My IQ is not very high
Of course it isn't.

You joined the armed forces!

They don't take really intelligent people. It'd be such a waste. You need to sacrifice the shallow end of the gene pool in war!
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Of course it isn't.

You joined the armed forces!

They don't take really intelligent people. It'd be such a waste. You need to sacrifice the shallow end of the gene pool in war!
Pray tell how much above 140 are you Troll?
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Pray tell how much above 140 are you Troll?
154 according to the last test I did.
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:37 PM   #50
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154 according to the last test I did.
Well...if I remember correctly 140-160 is genius level dependent upon the test taken. To bad that a genius is just a troll, nothing more, just a troll.
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