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Old 03-30-2003, 01:42 AM   #1
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Just reported on CNN

Two have died in Humvee accidents. One was engaged in a fire fight and was run over (that is what happened to me in the 1st Gulf War) and the other one died when his Humvee turned over and he drowned.
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Old 03-30-2003, 01:44 AM   #2
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Old 03-30-2003, 01:46 AM   #3
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It was reported that General Patton was once asked what was the most dangerous weapon he encountered during the Second World War and he answered ,"the jeep".
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Old 03-30-2003, 01:47 AM   #4
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wouldn't have happened if they had H2's
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Old 03-30-2003, 01:47 AM   #5
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One was engaged in a fire fight and was run over (that is what happened to me in the 1st Gulf War)
You were run over by a humvee and died?

All kidding aside though, that news sucks.... this war has got to end. They gotta take him down hard.. asap.
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Old 03-30-2003, 01:51 AM   #6
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It was reported that General Patton was once asked what was the most dangerous weapon he encountered during the Second World War and he answered ,"the jeep".
That jeep was a menace
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Old 03-30-2003, 01:59 AM   #7
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That jeep was a menace
I always wondered what idiot thought that a vehicle which could be easily turned over by one enemy soldier was the perfect vehicle for our military?
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Old 03-30-2003, 02:04 AM   #8
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I always wondered what idiot thought that a vehicle which could be easily turned over by one enemy soldier was the perfect vehicle for our military?
I can't speak from experience or anything, but my best guess would be that it's advantages are a lot more than the disadvantages, including its mobility and cost to produce.
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Old 03-30-2003, 02:06 AM   #9
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I can't speak from experience or anything, but my best guess would be that it's advantages are a lot more than the disadvantages, including its mobility and cost to produce.

yup, reliability, durability, and it's off-road capability. the willy's was an awesome creation, like the hummer.


the h2 doesn't even compare.
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Old 03-30-2003, 02:07 AM   #10
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I can't speak from experience or anything, but my best guess would be that it's advantages are a lot more than the disadvantages, including its mobility and cost to produce.
That was true.
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yup, reliability, durability, and it's off-road capability. the willy's was an awesome creation, like the hummer.


the h2 doesn't even compare.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hummer (the company) just makes the H2. It's nothing CLOSE to an actual Hum Vee everybody thinks of. It's built on an SUV frame (Excursion I believe?) The inside is all luxury, can't take any amounts of water...or any of that stuff, right? It's basically just a cool looking luxury vehicle, right?
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Old 03-30-2003, 04:32 AM   #12
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Old 03-30-2003, 04:38 AM   #13
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hummer (the company) just makes the H2. It's nothing CLOSE to an actual Hum Vee everybody thinks of. It's built on an SUV frame (Excursion I believe?) The inside is all luxury, can't take any amounts of water...or any of that stuff, right? It's basically just a cool looking luxury vehicle, right?
isnt the H2 made by GM?
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Old 03-30-2003, 04:49 AM   #14
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Old 03-30-2003, 04:59 AM   #15
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Not 100% sure, but I have understood that at least these cars ( Hum, Hummer, H2 ) were made by the same factory GM... I Don't know how it's today... but they asked about 10 years ago if I could import these cars in Finland and sell them to Russia. Same time I got offer from US based trade house to import & market Colt AR-15 rifles here.

My intention was to sell a special pack: "Don't Mess With Me" - Hummer + AR-15 !!!
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Old 03-30-2003, 05:25 AM   #17
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Hummer (the company) just makes the H2. It's nothing CLOSE to an actual Hum Vee everybody thinks of. It's built on an SUV frame (Excursion I believe?) The inside is all luxury, can't take any amounts of water...or any of that stuff, right? It's basically just a cool looking luxury vehicle, right?
The military (and civilian) Hummer H1's are made by American-General. The H2 is built under license from American-General, on a very modified Chevy Tahoe chassis and is marketed by General Motors.

The H2 is an extremely capable offroad machine at half the price of the H1, and its on-road manners are 10x better. As for your question about taking water, the H2 can ford 20 inches of water, the H1 can ford 30 inches. Both can climb a 60% grade, and traverse a 40% grade. The H1 has 16 inches of ground clearance, the H2 has 10.8 inches. The H1 can scale a 22 inch wall, the H2 can scale a 16 inch wall. Approach angle is 72 degrees on the H1 and 40 degrees on the H2, departure angle is 37 degrees on the H1 and 39 degrees on the H2.

The H1 has 195 horsepower and 430 pounds of torque, the H2 has 316 horsepower and 360 pounds of torque.

I've owned a '96 Turbo Diesel Wagon H1 and currently own a '03 H2, and my favorite is the H2. It drives much better, rides better, is much more quiet so I can hear my radio, gets worse gas mileage, and still does everything offroad that i want it to do. I'm not one of those pussies that buys a 4WD SUV to drive to the mall, I got mine to go offroad, and it rocks. Has awesome computer traction control and you can put it into low tranfer for a 33:1 ratio crawl mode and the thing seems to climb whatever you want to.
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