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Peaches 03-29-2003 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier I also ate all the chocolate I wanted after induction. Well, it's called Ross Chocolates and it does not have any sugar. They are extremely delicious. [/B]
Ugh, when I was on Atkins (and I plan on going on it again) I LOVED the Ross. The Ross did NOT love me :( Lots of stomach cramps. I can eat about one little square a day, which thankfully became enough to get me over the "craving" :)

Teengodfather:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

is an excellent site to get all kinds of nutritional info for things that don't have their own labels. However, I'm not sure if they list "foreign carrots" :winkwink:

jabula 03-29-2003 11:29 AM

The Atkin's diet works very well while you're on it, but if you cheat you'll gain back weight very quickly. I used to use it for 6 days days on & then have 1 meal of totally carbs no protein on the 7th day, which helped keep me sane.
Also, another tip, take plenty of calcium while you're on it to compensate for the dairy products you're not having. Prevents you from getting irritable & sleep better:BangBang:

Good luck & keep up the good work:glugglug

Jakke PNG 03-29-2003 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Peaches

is an excellent site to get all kinds of nutritional info for things that don't have their own labels. However, I'm not sure if they list "foreign carrots" :winkwink:

lol. Thanks. I'm not gonna go on the diet. I'm just curious.
About the foreign carrots shit.. I just saw some program a few weeks back about the nutritional values of things.. and they compared US and european carrots. heheh. :)

NoCarrier 03-29-2003 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Its amazing how many people dont have a clue and those on atkins never took time to read the book . Atkins is not a eat bacon ,eggs and read meat and nothing else diet. In fact I eat more vegetables now then I did my whole life. Fiberious carbs really dont count, so you can eat shitloads of vegatables just none of the starchy ones which basically turn to sugar. Its a low glycemic lifestyle and low glycemic is the best lifestyle to be on. Also eating protein is not hard on the kidney bodybuilders eat anywhere from 300-1000 grams of protien a day and I have never heard of one with kidney problems (My brother was one) On atkins you dont eat anywhere near thast much protein. Also people that have never had a weight problem shouldnt talk about diets because its not their lifestyle but their genetics 99 percent of the time.
You are absolutely right about the vegetables, I have never eaten so many vegetables in my entire life..

Yeah, and doctors are starting to realise that he might be right after all. The low fat, low calories have been a total disaster! When 50% of the population is overweight, there is something wrong.

My blood pressure is finally back to normal.

Marcus 03-29-2003 11:41 AM

I just went on that a month ago and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. I followed it to the letter though, no diet soda, only drank water, no veggies, no fruit at all, no ketchup (sugar), and took the pills and exercised a lot.

after 2 weeks I went off of it and am doing something else now, but atkins was a good way to get the ball rolling.

NoCarrier 03-29-2003 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Marcus
I just went on that a month ago and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. I followed it to the letter though, no diet soda, only drank water, no veggies, no fruit at all, no ketchup (sugar), and took the pills and exercised a lot.

after 2 weeks I went off of it and am doing something else now, but atkins was a good way to get the ball rolling.

You are allowed to eat 2-3 cups of veggies (not all of them) everyday on induction.

Helix 03-29-2003 11:43 AM

fyi....any root type veggy is hi in carbs.
ie potatos, carrots, turnips....etc

beeback500 03-29-2003 11:44 AM

When being interviewed Dr. Atkins and his representatives continue to issue this challenge to their distracters: cite ONE medical study that shows or suggests the Atkins diet causes kidney disease, gallbladder problems or any other health risk.

They can?t! They can, however, cite opinions, speculation, innuendo, and antidotal examples, but no facts. While it is true that there are no long term studies (over 6 months) as yet available, doctors at Duke University and Harvard have conducted studies that show the Atkins diet superior to low fat, low calorie diets. And that the dieters, in addition to loosing more weight, actually lowered their bad cholesterol counts while on Atkins.

IMHO it is no coincidence that obesity and diabetes have risen steadily since the instruction of the food pyramid. In fact, the food pyramid does work, if you turn it upside down.

What if the government has been wrong for the last 20 years, perish the thought?

If you are really interested read this article that appeared in the New York Times in July of 2002. Don?t just skim the article. Try and understand the science behind the success of the Atkins Diet.

http://lowcarb.ca/articlesb/article344.html

Check out the Duke and other studies here:

http://lowcarb.ca/

Stop dealing with ?she said?, ?I heard?, ?they think??..and read the facts above?..

You can drink on the Atkins Diet. After induction. The body deals with the alcohol first. Then the fat. So drinking just stalls the process. Michelob Ultra is a specially brewed low cal beer. Under 3 carbs per bottle. Miller Lite is also very low at about 3.5 carbs.

Marcus 03-29-2003 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier


You are allowed to eat 2-3 cups of veggies (not all of them) everyday on induction.

I wanted to lose fast so I cut out anything that would slow the process down. Since I was taking all the atkins pills (oils, basic 3, and advantage) I figure I was good.

tony286 03-29-2003 11:51 AM

THen you werent following atkins to the letter and all that weight will come back.

PersianKitty 03-29-2003 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Thanks for the info..will check it out.

P.S. Where in Washington State are you located?

South of Seattle in Federal Way.

FlyingIguana 03-29-2003 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
Alot of the initial weightloss on low carb diets is your body losing all its glycogen stores from your muscles and liver. And since water binds with glycogen, you lose alot of that too. Glycogen depletion is also why if you tried you exercise hard, you would have a blood sugar crash and feel exhausted. Glycogen is what your muscles use for hard aerobic exercise, its also what fuels your brain.

If you run down your glycogen enough, your body and brain will bitchslap you. Its not at all pleasant.

You can get a similar effect by jumping on a bike and cycling for 2-3 hours without eating or drinking anything containing carbohydrates.

thats why this diet was mainly used by bodybuilders before they used drugs to lose weight. but they used to carb load. 5 days with low carbs and then 2 days of pigging out on carbs. not suppose to be a good long term diet.

Centurion 03-29-2003 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by High Quality
Cent,

I did the atkins for a while. I lost like 14 lbs in the first 2 weeks or so. The problem is that you're eating too many carbs I think. I ate like 10 g or less for the first 2 weeks to kick into ketosis.

One thing to look out for is fucken fiber issues. Make sure you drink plenty of water or you're gunna be shitting bricks.

Good luck to you.

Yeah, it does sound like I've eaten too many carbs especially in the beginning stages.

And you are SO right about shitting bricks! :1orglaugh

Centurion 03-29-2003 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Danielle
Been on Atkins for years and I feel 10 times more healthy then I ever have. Cholesterol and blood preasure have droped big time! Blood sugar has normalized!


Hugs,
Danielle

Well, the one really good thing to come out of this is my blood glucose levels have returned back to normal!:thumbsup

And my cholesterol levels have gone down into the normal range also!:thumbsup :thumbsup

So, can't call the diet bad based on these two accomplishments..that's for sure!

G Sharp 03-29-2003 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
http://www.setgo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56

be careful with that diet

It can cause ketosis and can screw up your hormone balance.

Tala 03-29-2003 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by G Sharp


It can cause ketosis and can screw up your hormone balance.

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...People (and even some ill-informed doctors) often confuse ketosis, which is a perfectly normal metabolic process, with ketoacidosis, which is a life-threatening condition. The latter is the consequence of insulin-deficient subjects having out-of-control blood sugar levels, a condition that can occur as well in alcoholics and people in a state of extreme starvation. Ketosis and ketoacidosis may sound vaguely alike, but the two conditions are virtually polar opposites and can always be distinguished from each other by the fact that the diabetic has been consuming excessive carbohydrates and has high blood sugar, in sharp contrast to the fortunate person who is doing Atkins.

Almost everyone enters ketosis almost every day. Yet we're not all kicking the bucket. Morning breath is pretty much "ketone breath". As you sleep, you have gone eight to twelve hours without food. Your body is no longer running on carbs, but on ketones: broken down fat. Add to that the fact that you cannot burn body fat without breaking that fat into ketones. That is just how it works. If you are losing weight and not producing ketones you are burning muscle!

Centurion 03-29-2003 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Non-porn

I have lost a total of 50.lbs of fat. It came out to 13 inches in my waist.

My dick looks huge now!

Hang in there man.

I like the sounds of that!!:thumbsup
Thanks for the encouragement.

Centurion 03-29-2003 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus
I just went on that a month ago and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. I followed it to the letter though, no diet soda, only drank water, no veggies, no fruit at all, no ketchup (sugar), and took the pills and exercised a lot.

after 2 weeks I went off of it and am doing something else now, but atkins was a good way to get the ball rolling.

Out of curiosity..why did you forgo diet sodas? Their diet outline says diet sodas are aok. The carbonation?

eroswebmaster 03-29-2003 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Out of curiosity..why did you forgo diet sodas? Their diet outline says diet sodas are aok. The carbonation?

Wondering the same thing...I"ve got the Atkins book here but haven't started it yet and the only thing keeping me from downing no less than a 12 pack of coke a day is diet vanilla coke.

Centurion 03-29-2003 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty


South of Seattle in Federal Way.

We should get together sometime. I'm in Seattle.
And YOU have been a legendary icon ever since I first got on the net back in 1996.:)

NoCarrier 03-29-2003 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Out of curiosity..why did you forgo diet sodas? Their diet outline says diet sodas are aok. The carbonation?

The aspartame is the problem. It can stall the weight loss and might give you cravings for sugar, wich is not good. But everyone does not have the same metabolism. I still drink diet pepsi (in moderation) it's extremely low in carb (close to 0)

You want to drink Diet Rite (with splenda and caffeine free), I'd drink that, but it's not available in Canada.

Tala 03-29-2003 01:37 PM

Diet Rite is the only perfectly okay diet soda that Atkin's lovers can drink, it's made with Splenda instead of aspartame. (Aspartame increases your blood sugar levels where Splenda does not). Lots of flavors, but I like the good old-fashioned cola best. :)

Jakke PNG 03-29-2003 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Out of curiosity..why did you forgo diet sodas? Their diet outline says diet sodas are aok. The carbonation?

I happened to have a diet lemon coke in the fridge, it says it has 0 carbs. Dunno if that's the only thing what you should be looking at.. is it?

eroswebmaster 03-29-2003 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Diet Rite is the only perfectly okay diet soda that Atkin's lovers can drink, it's made with Splenda instead of aspartame. (Aspartame increases your blood sugar levels where Splenda does not). Lots of flavors, but I like the good old-fashioned cola best. :)
Aww crap...man I can tell I'm going to fail now.

I can't stand diet sodas, the only one that ever tasted halfway decent is this Diet vanilla coke...I just can't see something called "diet rite" tasting all that good.

Centurion 03-29-2003 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Diet Rite is the only perfectly okay diet soda that Atkin's lovers can drink, it's made with Splenda instead of aspartame. (Aspartame increases your blood sugar levels where Splenda does not). Lots of flavors, but I like the good old-fashioned cola best. :)
Interesting..I forgot about aspertame. I use splenda in the tea I have. But I must admit..I DO drink a lot of diet coke & diet pepsi.
MIGHT be the key to the slow down in weight loss. However, my blood sugars have improved dramatically! I'm always in double digits reading instead of triple numbers as I was before. My endocrinologist (sp?) said that if this continues and the weight comes off, that I could go off the meds I'm on for that.

Centurion 03-29-2003 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


Aww crap...man I can tell I'm going to fail now.

I can't stand diet sodas, the only one that ever tasted halfway decent is this Diet vanilla coke...I just can't see something called "diet rite" tasting all that good.

I have to agree with ya. Diet RC cola..YUCK! And frankly..it's hard to find anymore..even here in Seattle.:eek7

Jakke PNG 03-29-2003 01:52 PM

Soo... even though this asparteme (artificial sweetener?) hasn't got carbs, you're not supposed to consume it? wtf? Any more 'hidden' rules? :)

So if I was on the diet, I couldn't drink coke light, even though it has 0 carbs?

Still.. not thinking on trying this, I just like to educate myself. lol. Props to those who have the strength to keep on something like this.
:thumbsup

NoCarrier 03-29-2003 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Soo... even though this asparteme (artificial sweetener?) hasn't got carbs, you're not supposed to consume it? wtf? Any more 'hidden' rules? :)

So if I was on the diet, I couldn't drink coke light, even though it has 0 carbs?

Still.. not thinking on trying this, I just like to educate myself. lol. Props to those who have the strength to keep on something like this.
:thumbsup

Like I said in my earlier post, I am drinking diet pepsi and it's working.

Tala 03-29-2003 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Soo... even though this asparteme (artificial sweetener?) hasn't got carbs, you're not supposed to consume it? wtf? Any more 'hidden' rules? :)

So if I was on the diet, I couldn't drink coke light, even though it has 0 carbs?

Still.. not thinking on trying this, I just like to educate myself. lol. Props to those who have the strength to keep on something like this.
:thumbsup

Appreciate the props.

http://www.atkinscenter.com

That'll give you MUCH info on this, and then I would suggest the two books: Atkins New Diet Revolution and Atkins for Life. Good recipes and stuff, good info.

PersianKitty 03-29-2003 01:57 PM

From what I've gleened from my readings on the Zone Diet (modified Atkins), caffeinated diet colas are treated as carbs because they have the same effect on the body. I took to drinking diet non-caffeinated. It's not just the sweetener involved but the caffeine. Some people can be successful on Atkins even though they don't follow the no caffeine and cola rule, others can't. Aspartame can make you crave carbs.

With Atkins, he outlines that you are one of 3 types...A (metabolically resistant), B (glucose intolerant) and C (carbohydrate addict).

Also.. I've seen talk here about Atkins and kidneys. It's not the lack of carbs that can hurt the kidneys it's large amounts of protein. What's been found is that high protein intake can accelerate the loss of kidney function in people who already suffer some kidney problems. Also remember, a true Atkins diet doesn't push high protein but rather high fat intake.

Centurion 03-29-2003 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier


Like I said in my earlier post, I am drinking diet pepsi and it's working.

Keep on drinkin' on!

Like it's been said a couple of times earlier in this thread too: Everyone is DIFFERENT and have different metabolisms and different needs/results.

The ONLY way you will find out if it works for you is to TRY IT!

And just like a new suit..you may have to alter it a bit to make it fit you/work for you.

kaylacam 03-29-2003 02:04 PM

I did Atkins a while ago, lost 15 lbs in three weeks...I have been TRYING to get back on it, but soda pop is KILLING me!

Is there anyone out there who will be my "Atkins Partner"...I kind of need someone to kick me in the ass once in a while...:helpme

Tala 03-29-2003 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by kaylacam
I did Atkins a while ago, lost 15 lbs in three weeks...I have been TRYING to get back on it, but soda pop is KILLING me!

Is there anyone out there who will be my "Atkins Partner"...I kind of need someone to kick me in the ass once in a while...:helpme

Sure thing Kayla!!

Jakke PNG 03-29-2003 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by kaylacam
Is there anyone out there who will be my "Atkins Partner"...I kind of need someone to kick me in the ass once in a while...:helpme
If you move in with me.

kaylacam 03-29-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Sure thing Kayla!!
YEAH!
I added you to my AOL buddy list, I will IM you as SOON as I see you online there! I have a photo shoot for a magazine April 11th, think you can help kick my butt in to shape by then?

:helpme

Tala 03-29-2003 02:21 PM

Use msblaze2you for the AIM, hon. :)

PersianKitty 03-29-2003 02:30 PM

One of the things I found while on Zone was that I was very used to having a 1 liter bottle of diet pepsi with me. I would fill it 2/3rd full from a 2 liter bottle and add ice then drink off of it for the better part of half a day sometimes having to re-ice it. Heck the dang bottle would even go with me in the car.

Well I found that I could just as easily fill that bottle with water (remember you need 64 oz a day) or with decaf iced tea with splenda. I still had my 'bottle', but it was better for me. It wasn't so much that I needed the diet pepsi as it was I was so accustomed to having something to drink at hand all the time.

Tala 03-29-2003 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
One of the things I found while on Zone was that I was very used to having a 1 liter bottle of diet pepsi with me. I would fill it 2/3rd full from a 2 liter bottle and add ice then drink off of it for the better part of half a day sometimes having to re-ice it. Heck the dang bottle would even go with me in the car.

Well I found that I could just as easily fill that bottle with water (remember you need 64 oz a day) or with decaf iced tea with splenda. I still had my 'bottle', but it was better for me. It wasn't so much that I needed the diet pepsi as it was I was so accustomed to having something to drink at hand all the time.

True, that. I fill mine either with the Diet Rite or with water. I also like getting plain seltzer water or club soda and dropping a few drops of the Atkins syrups (strawberry rocks) in it and suddenly I have Atkins soda!

Nasty D 03-29-2003 02:35 PM

One of the best tips for loosing weight: Eat carbs in the morning, cut down at lunch, and totally eliminate at night! Carbs turn to ATP, and ATP creates energy. When your body has carbs to burn during the day you have more energy, then at night after you have eliminated the carbs, your body goes into the fat cells to burn energy. You loose weight while sleeping and you don't loose needed energy during the day.

Also eat atleast 5-6 small meals per day, rather than three big meals, your stomach will love this!

thewebgarage 03-29-2003 02:38 PM

I highly recommend that you increase your cadio. 30 minutes brisk walk in the AM.

The other thing is with this diet. the key is too slowly increase your carb intake.

after week 3 you should think about having a cheat day. That means have your choc M&M. but in moderation.

Also increase carbs slowly. but be very careful what type.

Pasta - bread poison. your better off just having a small pack of M&Ms

when you increase your carbs that means have vegis. moderate amount of fruit. something like an avacado lots of nutrition and not too high on carbs. eat vegi's that are low in carbs. its going to make the diet a lot easier.

When you get to your desired weight - no chips - pasta once a week. And lower the fat in take watch the saturated fats.

another important thing is drink a lot of water. it'll make it easier on you.

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