Sanders hopes Trump changes his mind about debate.

[crockett]

"Mr. Trump is known to change his mind many times in a day"




https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/stat...97366253232129

Sanders would eat Trump alive.

[bronco67]

It's so weird that Trump wants to debate the guy who is number two...but still a guy who is more in charge of facts and knowledge than Donald Trump.

If they wanted to debate about yellow hair-pieces and scam business you can bankrupt quickly to make a nice profit, then Trump would win.

I can't wait to see Donald Trump trip all over his dick during the Hillary debates with his vast knowledge of world and domestic affairs. 90% of the shit he farts from his mouth hole shows either a display of total ignorance, or just plain lying -- and I didn't need Politifact to tell me that.

[bronco67]

and I don't think anyone wanted to put up $10,000,000 to host, given the fiasco with the last Trump "charity" thing when he tried to keep the money until his campaign manager was grilled about it on the news. He was probably looking for a way to pocket some easy money and shit on Hillary at the same time. But then he realized it wouldn't be worth the shitstorm after all the women's charities start complaining they never received any money. He's as scummy as they come.

[Rochard]

LOL @ Trump. He said he would debate Sanders, and then backed down. Like a coward.

Today in Fresno, California, he said he would fix California's drought. No explanation, no solution, no nothing. He said the problem was "California is shoving our water out to the ocean". HUH?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

LOL @ Trump. He said he would debate Sanders, and then backed down. Like a coward.

Today in Fresno, California, he said he would fix California's drought. No explanation, no solution, no nothing. He said the problem was "California is shoving our water out to the ocean". HUH?

Trump speaks before he thinks it's called "stream of consciousness" is psychology, which is opposite of "mindfulness", where one is aware moment-to-moment of one?s subjective conscious experience from a first-person perspective.

When you think of it a "stream of consciousness" candidate is perfect for perceiving, processing, and triggering a crowds emotions, (as a cheerleader/motivational speaker) but they'll fail as an actual leader because the don't think of consequences before speaking as their mind isn't wired for logic.

[Horatio Caine]

Average trump supporter has an IQ of 70, so he doesn't have to go in to any explanations of how California can fix its problems. The other day he told people of New Mexico that their governor is not doing a good job and he would do better. That was it! Greatest speech ever. All because she was supporting Cruz and Donny was butt hurt.

[2MuchMark]

Donald Trump now says he won't debate Bernie Sanders.

Trump says he will not debate Sanders - CNNPolitics.com

Trump now says debate with Sanders would be 'inappropriate' | MSNBC





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[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by **********

Donald Trump now says he won't debate Bernie Sanders.

Trump says he will not debate Sanders - CNNPolitics.com

Trump now says debate with Sanders would be 'inappropriate' | MSNBC





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Nobody wants to debate Bernie. I'm watching him complain about it on TV right now. Sanders is looking like a chump, not good.

[SuckOnThis]

Drumpf is a PUSSY!!!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Nobody wants to debate Bernie. I'm watching him complain about it on TV right now. Sanders is looking like a chump, not good.

Bernie does have his problems, but he's still the only candidate that actually gives a shit about the people of this country.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Bernie does have his problems, but he's still the only candidate that actually gives a shit about the people of this country.

So him & Hillary voting the same 93% of the time in congress, and the children's health initiative, and , never mind

[fitzmulti]

The Republican winner vs the Democrat runner up in a debate?
Stupid and unnecessary.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

The Republican winner vs the Democrat runner up in a debate?
Stupid and unnecessary.

Trump won't debate Clinton either, just like he won't release his taxes. So much to hide, so little time, let's hope they don't find out before November.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump speaks before he thinks it's called "stream of consciousness" is psychology, which is opposite of "mindfulness", where one is aware moment-to-moment of one?s subjective conscious experience from a first-person perspective.

When you think of it a "stream of consciousness" candidate is perfect for perceiving, processing, and triggering a crowds emotions, (as a cheerleader/motivational speaker) but they'll fail as an actual leader because the don't think of consequences before speaking as their mind isn't wired for logic.

Trump is a businessman. He has lived his entire life in the boardroom. In the boardroom when Trump says "X" everyone in that room will most likely believe him - because all of those people either work for Trump, or want to do business with Trump. He doesn't understand that everything he says will be questioned.

It's very obvious to see what happened here. Trump went to Fresno, California, and they all told him the same exact story. The farmers all told him that some government agency has shut off water to protect some silly fish. And this story is very true - but it has nothing to do with the drought. Trump talked to a handful of farmers, heard what they had to say, and then just lumped it together with the California drought.

The issue is complicated, but it seems water to the farmers is being turned off for multiple reasons - mostly because of the drought. There is also some discussion about the EPA turning off a source of water because of salmon. If the EPA reverses that decision and turns that water back on... We are still in a drought and the farmer's water is still reduced.

Trump just says what people wants to hear. If it's so freaking easy to solve our drought, why hasn't someone done it already?

[dyna mo]

if you're not up to speed on california's complete mismanagement of the drought you shouldn't be speaking about it.

while there is a drought, the fact that it has been COMPLETELY mismanaged by california government since the 1970s is the bigger problem

in other words, the problem is NOT the drought, the problem is how it's been handled and that's Trump's point.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

if you're not up to speed on california's complete mismanagement of the drought you shouldn't be speaking about it.

while there is a drought, the fact that it has been COMPLETELY mismanaged by california government since the 1970s is the bigger problem

in other words, the problem is NOT the drought, the problem is how it's been handled and that's Trump's point.

Trump mismanages his businesses, so what's his point? Logically

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

if you're not up to speed on california's complete mismanagement of the drought you shouldn't be speaking about it.

while there is a drought, the fact that it has been COMPLETELY mismanaged by california government since the 1970s is the bigger problem

in other words, the problem is NOT the drought, the problem is how it's been handled and that's Trump's point.

Anti trumpsters do not care about what his point was, they just want to bash him

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Anti trumpsters do not care about what his point was, they just want to bash him

When facts equal bashing you know the guy's in deep.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump mismanages his businesses, so what's his point? Logically

his point is that the typical Californian should not be impacted by the drought, but we are. and that's not because of the drought, it's because of California government mismanagement. the delta smelt mismanagement is a glaring example of that. he simply used that example to illustrate the widespread problem.


i'm not saying he's an expert on droughts, i am saying i get what his point is and that's that for john q. public living in California, we shouldn't have a drought problem.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

his point is that the typical Californian should not be impacted by the drought, but we are. and that's not because of the drought, it's because of California government mismanagement. the delta smelt mismanagement is a glaring example of that. he simply used that example to illustrate the widespread problem.


i'm not saying he's an expert on droughts, i am saying i get what his point is and that's that for john q. public living in California, we shouldn't have a drought problem.

The problem is land owner water rights.

Here's a primer:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-saudi-arabia-alfalfa-20160329-story.html

Here's an example of Saudis raping us with California land purchases:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-saudi-arabia-alfalfa-20160329-story.html

In short it goes back to 1914, and being able to transfer water rights without government say/intervention. It's complicated but in short change means stripping land owners of billions in rights they've paid for & tranferred over the last 100 years.

Though a GOP talking point is it's a gov problem. Keep in mind many corporations own almost all the water rights and even a Republican gov wouldn't change a thing.

[dyna mo]

here's another sad example:

along with shoving drinking water out to the ocean to save that fucking smelt, Cali government officials allow big business to tap municipal tap water and sell it worldwide as bottled water. they also allow arrowhead to pull aquifer water from the ground surreptitiously via indian reservations.

think about that. most all bottled water sold WORLDWIDE is from the most drought-stricken state in the union.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The problem is land owner water rights.

Here's a primer:

Saudi land purchases in California and Arizona fuel debate over water rights - LA Times

Here's an example of Saudis raping us with California land purchases:

Saudi land purchases in California and Arizona fuel debate over water rights - LA Times

In short it goes back to 1914, and being able to transfer water rights without government say/intervention. It's complicated but in short change means stripping land owners of billions in rights they've paid for & tranferred over the last 100 years.

Though a GOP talking point is it's a gov problem. Keep in mind many corporations own almost all the water rights and even a Republican gov wouldn't change a thing.

no. that's a problem, that's not THE problem. and that problem specifically has to do with farmer water, period.

THE problem is water storage and infrastructure mismanagement that stems from a fucked up state government and there are TONS and GOBS and REAMS of studies and papers to prove this.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The problem is land owner water rights.

Here's a primer:

Saudi land purchases in California and Arizona fuel debate over water rights - LA Times

Here's an example of Saudis raping us with California land purchases:

Saudi land purchases in California and Arizona fuel debate over water rights - LA Times

In short it goes back to 1914, and being able to transfer water rights without government say/intervention. It's complicated but in short change means stripping land owners of billions in rights they've paid for & tranferred over the last 100 years.

Though a GOP talking point is it's a gov problem. Keep in mind many corporations own almost all the water rights and even a Republican gov wouldn't change a thing.

the difference is i'm not approaching the problem as a political party problem. this isn't republican v democrat, i couldn't care less if trump were red blue or green, he is pointing to a problem and that's cali government mismanagement of water infrastructure and management for DECADES AND DECADES.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

When facts equal bashing you know the guy's in deep.

How is misinterpreting Trump's point a fact?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

no. that's a problem, that's not THE problem. and that problem specifically has to do with farmer water, period.

THE problem is water storage and infrastructure mismanagement that stems from a fucked up state government and there are TONS and GOBS and REAMS of studies and papers to prove this.

Water rights is THE problem. You can't talk about water conservation without first adressing water/land rights.

Water rights reform means disenfranchising land owners and reappropriating billions in wealth of purchased, and passed down, water rights.

After that, conservation can be effectively tackled.

Banks, corporations & farmers lobby to fight water right reform to avoid loss of powers & wealth, then blame government for failed water conservation.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Water rights is THE problem. You can't talk about water conservation without first adressing water/land rights.

Water rights reform means disenfranchising land owners and reappropriating billions in wealth of purchased, and passed down, water rights.

After that, conservation can be effectively tackled.

we're debating 2 different things. i'm saying that the typical california resident, you, me, rochard, should not have been impacted by the drought if california officials had managed the drought better.

you're arguing that most all our water goes to agriculture and that's where conservation needs to happen.

these views don't disagree.

I am generally familiar with ag water rights including the grandfathered in rights and all the shenanigans that you're referring to.

if you want to speak just to that, and not my point that you counter-pointed, i'm cool with that, but i don't necessarily agree with you there either, that the issue is water rights.

from my understanding of what i've read, heard, discussed, seen, et al, the problem is irrigation infrastructure and management. things like smart irrigation scheduling is not mandated. deficit irrigation on drought-tolerant seasonal crops, and most importantly, requiring drip and sprinkler technology be embraced to really manage ag water properly.

that can all be legislated and should have been over the last 40+ years. along with water storage and maintained and upgraded water infrastructure. none of that would have been roadblocked by water rights.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

here's another sad example:

along with shoving drinking water out to the ocean to save that fucking smelt, Cali government officials allow big business to tap municipal tap water and sell it worldwide as bottled water. they also allow arrowhead to pull aquifer water from the ground surreptitiously via indian reservations.

think about that. most all bottled water sold WORLDWIDE is from the most drought-stricken state in the union.

The govt also allows oil companies to inject poison into the ground which has led to both man created earth quakes and contaminated ground water..

No republican ever complains about that..because oil..


Btw, what do little fish have to do with Trump being scared to debate Sanders?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

The govt also allows oil companies to inject poison into the ground which has led to both man created earth quakes and contaminated ground water..

No republican ever complains about that..because oil..


Btw, what do little fish have to do with Trump being scared to debate Sanders?

what does oil have to do with trump debating sanders?

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by crockett

The govt also allows oil companies to inject poison into the ground which has led to both man created earth quakes and contaminated ground water..

No republican ever complains about that..because oil..


Btw, what do little fish have to do with Trump being scared to debate Sanders?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what does oil have to do with trump debating sanders?

I knew this would be a very hard topic for you.. On one hand you claim to be a Sanders supporter on the other hand you can never stop making excuses for Trump.

I think we all know who you really support, no need to be embarrassed just admit it. You can't even stick up for Sanders you just try to distract and make excuses for Trump.

You are like a confused gay guy that isn't sure if it's gay to let another dude suck your dick while pretending it's a women..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

I knew this would be a very hard topic for you.. On one hand you claim to be a Sanders supporter on the other hand you can never stop making excuses for Trump.

I think we all know who you really support, no need to be embarrassed just admit it. You can't even stick up for Sanders you just try to distract and make excuses for Trump.

You are like a confused gay guy that isn't sure if it's gay to let another dude suck your dick while pretending it's a women..

you're sure torqued up about who i'm voting for.





while i couldn't give 1 single fuck who you're voting for.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Nobody wants to debate Bernie. I'm watching him complain about it on TV right now. Sanders is looking like a chump, not good.

Why should they; he isn't going to be on the ballot

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're sure torqued up about who i'm voting for.





while i couldn't give 1 single fuck who you're voting for.

That's funny because if you don't care who anyone is voting for, why do you spend so much time making excuses for Trump?

[Paul Markham]

Anyone can defeat Trump in a debate. So long as Trump has to answer a question properly.

His entire debate technique is "I can do it because I can do it.'

That's when he's not answering with insults.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

That's funny because if you don't care who anyone is voting for, why do you spend so much time making excuses for Trump?

You continue to mock what you don't understand. You confuse my taking Trump serious as a competitor as a sign of support when what I'm doing is simply understanding better than you why he's winning and sharing that.

You may want to take a gander at my post count and wide variety of topics I start and participate in to realize I don't give trump any more attention than say, music, or science.

I'd try to help you out and sit you down and slowly explain things to you but as many times as I've stated to you directly and unequivocally my view, only to have you confuse it over and over, why bother.

It is weird, that like a fake liberal, you think that in order for me to prove my support of Sanders to you, I need to confuse and trash Trump with you.

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So him & Hillary voting the same 93% of the time in congress, and the children's health initiative, and , never mind

Don't forget the Bern's wife running Burlington College into the ground while upping her salary by more than a third. If Sanders is in I bet he makes her Education Secretary.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

You continue to mock what you don't understand. You confuse my taking Trump serious as a competitor as a sign of support when what I'm doing is simply understanding better than you why he's winning and sharing that.

You may want to take a gander at my post count and wide variety of topics I start and participate in to realize I don't give trump any more attention than say, music, or science.

I'd try to help you out and sit you down and slowly explain things to you but as many times as I've stated to you directly and unequivocally my view, only to have you confuse it over and over, why bother.

It is weird, that like a fake liberal, you think that in order for me to prove my support of Sanders to you, I need to confuse and trash Trump with you.

You need to get off the high horse. You seem to think no one else understands anything but you.

I understand completely, Trump appeals to low information highly opinionated people. People that have very little knowledge on a given subject but think they know all the answers.

This is why his simple talk goes over well, because they don't care about the details, but just "believe" because he says so it must be right..

Anyone who objectively looks at what Trump says realizes he can't do half the shit he claims he can.

Just like Bernie would not make college free or Obama couldn't make a single payer healthcare system.

However with Trump it's 90% of what he says is horseshit.

[dyna mo]

right. keep deluding yourself about understanding Trump while you and your liberal high 5in bros sweep him into the WH with your "understanding".

on top of that brilliant comprehension you think you hold, you also seem to think you're going to change minds by insulting Trump supporters. just more fodder to push Trump into the WH.



the funny part is not only do you lack the ability to see that attacking Trump over the last year has backfired in your face, you still cling to the incessant need to have people like me high 5 you over attacking Trump.

you're failing at both, after a full year.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

right. keep deluding yourself about understanding Trump while you and your liberal high 5in bros sweep him into the WH with your "understanding".

on top of that brilliant comprehension you think you hold, you also seem to think you're going to change minds by insulting Trump supporters. just more fodder to push Trump into the WH.



the funny part is not only do you lack the ability to see that attacking Trump over the last year has backfired in your face, you still cling to the incessant need to have people like me high 5 you over attacking Trump.

you're failing at both, after a full year.

Funny you have no issues trying to change minds by insulting people.

I'm not here to change minds. No one is changing the minds of anyone on a message board. I'm here to troll idiots.

[dyna mo]

entirely wrong. as per usual. you like to exclaim others need to get off their high horse while you think you can claim higher intellectual ground all while being wrong.

keep deluding yourself while you mock what you don't understand.

[Bladewire]

50 BLOWJOBS!

Originally Posted by dyna mo

while i couldn't give 1 single fuck who

OH! Totally thought you were gonna end that with "sucks my dick" Bahahaha

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

50 BLOWJOBS!





OH! Totally thought you were gonna end that with "sucks my dick" Bahahaha

generally speaking, you're right. at least going on past experiences.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by crockett

Sanders would eat Trump alive.

he was pushed aside by two idiotic Black Lives Matter retards, women, at his own fucking rally. The guy is way, way too lightweight to even run.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by nico-t

he was pushed aside by two idiotic Black Lives Matter retards, women, at his own fucking rally. The guy is way, way too lightweight to even run.

it's not an arm wrestling contest. you actually think he was supposed to go toe-up with black females at a public rally? a potus candidate?

if dems want even the slightest chance at beating Trump they need to embrace Bernie and send Hills to the hills, she's neck and neck with Trump in the polls while Bernie Sanders beats Trump in every poll.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's not an arm wrestling contest. you actually think he was supposed to go toe-up with black females at a public rally? a potus candidate?

if dems want even the slightest chance at beating Trump they need to embrace Bernie and send Hills to the hills, she's neck and neck with Trump in the polls while Bernie Sanders beats Trump in every poll.

whatever Sanders his intentions are by being president, he will be a 100% puppet because he is just too weak. Lets just say he will be in the White House. He is confronted with the sick agenda of the establishment and the huge money that goes hand in hand with it - he doesnt stand a chance as a guppy in that sea full of sharks. He will not get anything he plans on doing done.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by nico-t

whatever Sanders his intentions are by being president, he will be a 100% puppet because he is just too weak. Lets just say he will be in the White House. He is confronted with the sick agenda of the establishment and the huge money that goes hand in hand with it - he doesnt stand a chance as a guppy in that sea full of sharks. He will not get anything he plans on doing done.

pure opinion. you seem to discount the simple fact that the entire planet planned on HIllary being the anointed candidate. she should be thoroughly on her way trouncing Trump right now and being a shoe-in for potus. but she's not (at all) and that's because Sanders is a worthy adversary.

i could daydream about what a buffoon Trump would be in the oval office too. he'd spend most his day in a twitter feud with rosy odonnell.

[Horatio Caine]

Trump is used to "My way, or highway" talks. He's not a debater. High school freshman from debate class will make him look stupid.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

while Bernie Sanders beats Trump in every poll.

while this is highly reported & likely accurate, can anything really be derived from polls on bernie in a national race? clearly not enough democrat base voters knew who he was. how can the black vote go so hard for hillz when she was a goldwater backer while bernie was getting arrested for the cause? point being, the poll may say more about the publics negative view of trump as opposed to an endorsement of bernie, who is still mostly unknown since the MSM deliberately buried him until people got uppity over crony delegate allocations in NV.

i think it WILL come down to bernie vs trump. Hilary is going to be murdered by the FBI. If she doesnt resign after the FBI is done (bec they only indicted the aides) then the convention is going to be like the 4th of july.

then nominee bernie will have the proper scrutiny & the polls will reflect, one way or the other.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Trump is used to "My way, or highway" talks. He's not a debater. High school freshman from debate class will make him look stupid.

What debate have you watched that was actually carried on in a debate format? People don't even answer the question asked.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by baddog

What debate have you watched that was actually carried on in a debate format? People don't even answer the question asked.

I thought Bush and Rubio was pretty good at keeping it civil and answering questions.