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Mutt · 03-26-2003, 10:33 PM

US will lose war, says former UN inspector

March 26 2003 at 06:42PM

Lisbon - The United States does not have the military means to take over Baghdad and will lose the war against Iraq, former United Nations weapons inspector Scott Ritter said.

"The United States is going to leave Iraq with its tail between its legs, defeated. It is a war we can not win," he told private radio TSF in an interview broadcast here Tuesday evening.

"We do not have the military means to take over Baghdad and for this reason I believe the defeat of the United States in this war is inevitable," he said.

"Every time we confront Iraqi troops we may win some tactical battles, as we did for ten years in Vietnam but we will not be able to win this war, which in my opinion is already lost," Ritter added.

'It is a war we can not win'
Stiffening Iraqi resistance as US-led forces close in on Baghdad have prompted questions about the strategy to use precision air power and a smaller, fast moving ground force to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

Some military analysts have said there are not enough allied troops in Iraq to take control of Baghdad, where Saddam Hussein's elite troops are said to be concentrated, and that the planning of the war was overly optimistic.

But British Prime Minister Tony Blair told parliament Wednesday the United States and Britain believe they have "sufficient forces" in Iraq and London was not planning to send reinforcements to the country at this stage.

A combination of bad weather and heavy fighting in central Iraq has slowed the advance of coalition troops marching on Baghdad.

Ritter resigned in August 1998 after accusing both Washington and the United Nations of not doing enough to support the weapons inspectors.

Since leaving the UN weapons inspectors team he has become an outspoken critic of US policies towards Iraq. - Sapa-AFP

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Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:39 PM

that guy is a bitter EX-un inspector that resigned years ago.

Mutt · 03-26-2003, 10:55 PM

HAHAHHAHAHAHA.............IT'S BETTER THAN THAT! READ THIS........

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CRIMENETDAILY
Ritter's attorney
confirms arrest
TV station claims tape shows ex-U.N. inspector caught in sex sting

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Posted: January 20, 2003
6:52 p.m. Eastern

By Sherrie Gossett
? 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

An attorney for Scott Ritter confirmed that the outspoken former U.N. weapons inspector, who says President Bush should be impeached for his Iraq policy, was arrested a year and a half ago.
Scott Ritter mug shot (courtesy WNYT-TV)

Norah Murphy said Ritter was arrested in the upstate New York town of Colonie in June 2001, but she would not respond to allegations that he was charged with soliciting an underage girl on the Internet. Ritter lives in the Albany, N.Y., suburb of Delmar.

The Schenectady Daily Gazette and New York Daily News report Ritter allegedly had an online sexual discussion with someone he thought was an underage girl. The "girl," however, turned out to be an undercover police investigator, according to the Daily News, whose sources spoke on condition of anonymity.

WTEN-TV, the ABC affiliate in Albany, is reporting that Ritter contacted the "teen-age girl" twice within a three-month period in 2001, and that he underwent court-ordered sex-offender counseling from a psychologist in New York's capital.

Sources tell the Albany Times-Union that Ritter actually had two run-ins with police. The first occurred in April 2001, as the former Marine reportedly drove to a Colonie business to meet what he thought was a 14-year-old girl. He was reportedly questioned by officers, and released without a charge.

Two months later, the source told the paper, Ritter was caught in the same kind of online sex sting after he tried to lure a 16-year-old girl to an area Burger King restaurant.

Colonie police Deputy Chief Steven Heider told WorldNetDaily that he cannot confirm the allegations, explaining that if they were true, the details would have been sealed by a court order.

"A sealing order is exactly what it says it is," he said. "We're not allowed to talk about anything under sealed court order, and I'm not saying that one exists."

However, WND has learned that NBC television affiliate WNYT in Albany has video of a mug shot of Ritter after the arrest.

"If it's not him, it's either his clone or a twin," the station's news director, Paul Conti, told WND.

WorldNetDaily reported earlier that WNYT said it had footage of the arrest, but Conti clarified that the station has video of the scene, shot after the arrest.

Scott Ritter

The news director said the 16-year-old girl had been lured by Ritter to meet him at the Burger King in Menands, N.Y., in order "to have her watch him have sex with himself."

"Anyone who went to the Burger King that day could confirm the details of that event and report that a sting operation was underway that involved a decoy officer posing as a 16-year-old girl," Conti said.

Callers to today's Rush Limbaugh radio program brought up the issue of Ritter's arrest, to which the conservative talk host responded:

"If I were Scott Ritter, I would just come up with a 'Hey, I was just doing research here.' ... The Pete Townshend reply."

"You know we've all wondered," added Limbaugh, "why it is that Scott Ritter has done a 180 on what he originally saw as a weapons inspector and then the last couple years, it's like 'Nah, the Iraqis don't even have the capability to make a thumbtack, much less a chemical weapon.'"

Still, Limbaugh downplayed the incident.

"I'm surprised that this bothers anybody," he said. "I mean look at these reality TV shows out there, everything going on, 'Bachelorette,' 'Joe Millionaire' ... we had oral sex in the Oval Office ... I'm just surprised [at] the selective application of morality, that we seem to have certain things bother us and other things don't."

As WorldNetDaily reported Saturday, Ritter is calling for the ouster of President Bush for what he feels are unnecessary and murderous actions in the conflict with Iraq.

"I would be in favor of the impeachment of President Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors," the 41-year old told WND. "Murder is a high crime and misdemeanor, and I can't think of any better definition than murder when he talks about American service members and putting them in a war which is not only illegal but is based on a foundation of lies."

"When you go to war you open up a Pandora's box, the results of which cannot be predicted," he said via telephone as he drove from his upstate New York home to appear on Fox News. "Therefore, there better be a darned good reason to go to war. It's got to be worth the sacrifice that you're asking others to make."

Ritter's views against the conflict with Iraq could be in jeopardy depending on the amount of national media attention his arrest receives, said Robert Thompson, professor of media and popular culture at Syracuse University.

"When you're a talking head, your whole reason for being has got to be the image of anything you represent," Thompson told the Times-Union. "If the story starts getting to be a big issue, there will be talking heads making their careers on the end of this talking head."

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Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 10:56 PM

hottoddy · 03-26-2003, 10:57 PM

Yeah, this has been brought up before. Pedophiles with an axe to grind are extremely credible.

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 10:59 PM

Amp,

I have watched Ritter on many news shows, some stuff about him I don't like, but I gotta say he knows Iraq and is no dummy.

I belive he was a captain in the marines I think, and special ops, can't remember forsure.

the charge against him he denies, so I don't know.

playa · 03-26-2003, 10:59 PM

what the hell does a UN inspector know how to run a military operation

playa · 03-26-2003, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
I belive he was a captain in the marines I think, and special ops, can't remember forsure.

Unless he is sitting in the CentCom building and is gettin the latest intel reports and talking to General Franks on a daily basis,

his opinion really doesn't mean shit

KRL · 03-26-2003, 11:04 PM

That fucking scammer Ritter is trying to get free press for his book. Scumbag traitor.

stocktrader23 · 03-26-2003, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Amp,

I have watched Ritter on many news shows, some stuff about him I don't like, but I gotta say he knows Iraq and is no dummy.

I belive he was a captain in the marines I think, and special ops, can't remember forsure.

the charge against him he denies, so I don't know.

US will not lose a war against Iraq. Even if the Iraq troops were 10 times better than anyone expected Bush will not leave defeated. He may start drafting, sending all available troops, etc but we will not leave without finishing what was started.

Now if a few more countries decided to fight on the Iraq side that could be a different story.

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 11:06 PM

Stocktrader,

I wasn't implying that we will loose, I know we will win forsure. This isn't Vietnam where alot of the country was sick and tired of the war, and wondering what we were doing over there.

My point is, Ritter never came off like a dummy or idiot to me, watching him on tv.

thanks

todd

XXXManager · 03-26-2003, 11:09 PM

Everybody...
SHUT THE FUCK UP
Enough with this BS threads

Go back to work

Interlude · 03-26-2003, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
My point is, Ritter never came off like a dummy or idiot to me, watching him on tv.

Neither does Michael Moore, until you realize that he's a lying scumbag with a myriad of personal vendettas.

kmanrox · 03-26-2003, 11:09 PM

that guys a quack... the US has the military power to take over the world, when coupled with the UK

granted it could take quite a while, it could be done almost certainly....

sextoyking · 03-26-2003, 11:14 PM

Interlude,

Michael Moore is ok in my book.

I always refer back to this:

I Find it Un patriotic and Un American to Not question your goverment....

---------------------------------

Kman,

Yeh, there will some tough times, but we shall overcome.

FlyingIguana · 03-26-2003, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
that guys a quack... the US has the military power to take over the world, when coupled with the UK

granted it could take quite a while, it could be done almost certainly....

thats what they thought with vietnam. obviously iraq isn't vietnam, but it most likely won't be an easy victory.

theking · 03-27-2003, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

thats what they thought with vietnam. obviously iraq isn't vietnam, but it most likely won't be an easy victory.

We never tried to take over Vietnam.

czarkazm · 03-27-2003, 01:10 AM

Here's a nice rendition of how it will all play out over the next 9 months:

http://idleworm.wolffelaar.nl/nws/2002/11/swf/iraq2.swf

bhutocracy · 03-27-2003, 01:14 AM

it's not going to be vietnam.. the US will "win" the only slant on the situation in which Ritter may be right will be in the guerilla warfare afterwards, taking out peacekeepers and US installed officials.

ChrisH · 03-27-2003, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
that guy is a bitter EX-un inspector that resigned years ago.

Also is a child preditor. Just thought I'd point that out for our friend Ritter. Charged in New York State.

Also was on Iraqs payroll not too long ago as I recall.

Nice guy indeed.

smack · 03-27-2003, 02:32 AM

not enough tropps to take baghdad? i'm sure if they're aren't enough in country right now that there will be soon enough. scott ritter prolly has some strange homosexual love for saddam hussein going on. must be the mustache?

genomega · 03-27-2003, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Also was on Iraqs payroll not too long ago as I recall.

Yeah, 500,000 to make a movie. heh.

Kohun · 03-27-2003, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by czarkazm
Here's a nice rendition of how it will all play out over the next 9 months:

http://idleworm.wolffelaar.nl/nws/2002/11/swf/iraq2.swf

fucking cool game

)

Thank you for prediction. It's a real evolution.

Mark

ADL Colin · 03-27-2003, 06:54 AM

IS ANYONE impressed by the "Stiffening Iraqi resistance"?

Sassyass · 03-27-2003, 07:20 AM

The question is not "are we going to lose"
It's how far will we go to win.

I'm not talking nukes here, I?m talking how much is a human life worth,
Blow up specific buildings - lose X US soldiers
Level 1/4 of Baghdad - save X number soldiers
Level 1/2 of Baghdad - save X*2 American soldiers.
Start Operation Baghdad Parking complex - Save X*10 soldiers

It's all about how much we will have to spend to put the cities back together.
To say that we can?t win is ridiculous, Do we have the financial backing to rebuild Iraq the way we want it to look with out loosing controlling interest? That is a different question.

cosis · 03-27-2003, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin
IS ANYONE impressed by the "Stiffening Iraqi resistance"?

no just more of them to kill

SquarePants · 03-27-2003, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
That fucking scammer Ritter is trying to get free press for his book. Scumbag traitor.

Could be he had some trade deal setup with Iraq. You figure it out

12clicks · 03-27-2003, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
that guys a quack... the US has the military power to take over the world, when coupled with the UK

granted it could take quite a while, it could be done almost certainly....

my god Kman, you're turning into my clone. stop it!

12clicks · 03-27-2003, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin
IS ANYONE impressed by the "Stiffening Iraqi resistance"?

You mean, instead of us rolling down their hiways at 65mph, they now have to stop from time to time to kill some iraqis?

Trolleater · 03-27-2003, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
what the hell does a UN inspector know how to run a military operation

Just that...he's an ex-weapons inspector. Do you think they just hand those jobs to normal guys with no background in the military?

Shok · 03-27-2003, 09:03 AM

Big Nath · 03-27-2003, 09:14 AM

Yeah this is a tough one to debate about i reckon...

One thing youve gotta understand is that the iraqi people have been thru this before, they've been living with war for the last 15 years. They've also had a promise broken that they would be free'd 12 years ago that wasnt carried out.

If the iraqi people are that tired of their promises being broken by u bloody americans and actually decide to fight along side saddam, then this war is gunna go on for frickin ages because it will be fought in the streets and the americans will have another somalia on their hands where they dont know whos friendly and whos not.

That is what i am worried about, and this will not be over inside 6 months.. I reckon it will carry on for the better part of a year !!

Just my

fnet · 03-27-2003, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok

Fucking hilarious

candyflip · 03-27-2003, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Michael Moore is ok in my book.

I always refer back to this:

I Find it Un patriotic and Un American to Not question your goverment....

He spoke locally last night and I got to go hear him

He passed his Oscar out to the crowd and everyone in the audience got to touch/hold it. Had a good time and got to hear someone's well crafted arguments and POV.

sherie · 03-27-2003, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fnet

Fucking hilarious

Ditto

03-26-2003, 10:33 PM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	The Not So Good:: UN Inspector Says US Cannot Win War US will lose war, says former UN inspector March 26 2003 at 06:42PM Lisbon - The United States does not have the military means to take over Baghdad and will lose the war against Iraq, former United Nations weapons inspector Scott Ritter said. "The United States is going to leave Iraq with its tail between its legs, defeated. It is a war we can not win," he told private radio TSF in an interview broadcast here Tuesday evening. "We do not have the military means to take over Baghdad and for this reason I believe the defeat of the United States in this war is inevitable," he said. "Every time we confront Iraqi troops we may win some tactical battles, as we did for ten years in Vietnam but we will not be able to win this war, which in my opinion is already lost," Ritter added. 'It is a war we can not win' Stiffening Iraqi resistance as US-led forces close in on Baghdad have prompted questions about the strategy to use precision air power and a smaller, fast moving ground force to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Some military analysts have said there are not enough allied troops in Iraq to take control of Baghdad, where Saddam Hussein's elite troops are said to be concentrated, and that the planning of the war was overly optimistic. But British Prime Minister Tony Blair told parliament Wednesday the United States and Britain believe they have "sufficient forces" in Iraq and London was not planning to send reinforcements to the country at this stage. A combination of bad weather and heavy fighting in central Iraq has slowed the advance of coalition troops marching on Baghdad. Ritter resigned in August 1998 after accusing both Washington and the United Nations of not doing enough to support the weapons inspectors. Since leaving the UN weapons inspectors team he has become an outspoken critic of US policies towards Iraq. - Sapa-AFP Source __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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03-26-2003, 10:55 PM	#3
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	HAHAHHAHAHAHA.............IT'S BETTER THAN THAT! READ THIS........ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CRIMENETDAILY Ritter's attorney confirms arrest TV station claims tape shows ex-U.N. inspector caught in sex sting -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 20, 2003 6:52 p.m. Eastern By Sherrie Gossett ? 2003 WorldNetDaily.com An attorney for Scott Ritter confirmed that the outspoken former U.N. weapons inspector, who says President Bush should be impeached for his Iraq policy, was arrested a year and a half ago. Scott Ritter mug shot (courtesy WNYT-TV) Norah Murphy said Ritter was arrested in the upstate New York town of Colonie in June 2001, but she would not respond to allegations that he was charged with soliciting an underage girl on the Internet. Ritter lives in the Albany, N.Y., suburb of Delmar. The Schenectady Daily Gazette and New York Daily News report Ritter allegedly had an online sexual discussion with someone he thought was an underage girl. The "girl," however, turned out to be an undercover police investigator, according to the Daily News, whose sources spoke on condition of anonymity. WTEN-TV, the ABC affiliate in Albany, is reporting that Ritter contacted the "teen-age girl" twice within a three-month period in 2001, and that he underwent court-ordered sex-offender counseling from a psychologist in New York's capital. Sources tell the Albany Times-Union that Ritter actually had two run-ins with police. The first occurred in April 2001, as the former Marine reportedly drove to a Colonie business to meet what he thought was a 14-year-old girl. He was reportedly questioned by officers, and released without a charge. Two months later, the source told the paper, Ritter was caught in the same kind of online sex sting after he tried to lure a 16-year-old girl to an area Burger King restaurant. Colonie police Deputy Chief Steven Heider told WorldNetDaily that he cannot confirm the allegations, explaining that if they were true, the details would have been sealed by a court order. "A sealing order is exactly what it says it is," he said. "We're not allowed to talk about anything under sealed court order, and I'm not saying that one exists." However, WND has learned that NBC television affiliate WNYT in Albany has video of a mug shot of Ritter after the arrest. "If it's not him, it's either his clone or a twin," the station's news director, Paul Conti, told WND. WorldNetDaily reported earlier that WNYT said it had footage of the arrest, but Conti clarified that the station has video of the scene, shot after the arrest. Scott Ritter The news director said the 16-year-old girl had been lured by Ritter to meet him at the Burger King in Menands, N.Y., in order "to have her watch him have sex with himself." "Anyone who went to the Burger King that day could confirm the details of that event and report that a sting operation was underway that involved a decoy officer posing as a 16-year-old girl," Conti said. Callers to today's Rush Limbaugh radio program brought up the issue of Ritter's arrest, to which the conservative talk host responded: "If I were Scott Ritter, I would just come up with a 'Hey, I was just doing research here.' ... The Pete Townshend reply." "You know we've all wondered," added Limbaugh, "why it is that Scott Ritter has done a 180 on what he originally saw as a weapons inspector and then the last couple years, it's like 'Nah, the Iraqis don't even have the capability to make a thumbtack, much less a chemical weapon.'" Still, Limbaugh downplayed the incident. "I'm surprised that this bothers anybody," he said. "I mean look at these reality TV shows out there, everything going on, 'Bachelorette,' 'Joe Millionaire' ... we had oral sex in the Oval Office ... I'm just surprised [at] the selective application of morality, that we seem to have certain things bother us and other things don't." As WorldNetDaily reported Saturday, Ritter is calling for the ouster of President Bush for what he feels are unnecessary and murderous actions in the conflict with Iraq. "I would be in favor of the impeachment of President Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors," the 41-year old told WND. "Murder is a high crime and misdemeanor, and I can't think of any better definition than murder when he talks about American service members and putting them in a war which is not only illegal but is based on a foundation of lies." "When you go to war you open up a Pandora's box, the results of which cannot be predicted," he said via telephone as he drove from his upstate New York home to appear on Fox News. "Therefore, there better be a darned good reason to go to war. It's got to be worth the sacrifice that you're asking others to make." Ritter's views against the conflict with Iraq could be in jeopardy depending on the amount of national media attention his arrest receives, said Robert Thompson, professor of media and popular culture at Syracuse University. "When you're a talking head, your whole reason for being has got to be the image of anything you represent," Thompson told the Times-Union. "If the story starts getting to be a big issue, there will be talking heads making their careers on the end of this talking head." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Amp, I have watched Ritter on many news shows, some stuff about him I don't like, but I gotta say he knows Iraq and is no dummy. I belive he was a captain in the marines I think, and special ops, can't remember forsure. the charge against him he denies, so I don't know. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	what the hell does a UN inspector know how to run a military operation

03-26-2003, 11:04 PM	#9
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	That fucking scammer Ritter is trying to get free press for his book. Scumbag traitor.

03-26-2003, 11:06 PM	#11
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Stocktrader, I wasn't implying that we will loose, I know we will win forsure. This isn't Vietnam where alot of the country was sick and tired of the war, and wondering what we were doing over there. My point is, Ritter never came off like a dummy or idiot to me, watching him on tv. thanks todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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03-26-2003, 11:09 PM	#14
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	that guys a quack... the US has the military power to take over the world, when coupled with the UK granted it could take quite a while, it could be done almost certainly.... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Interlude, Michael Moore is ok in my book. I always refer back to this: I Find it Un patriotic and Un American to Not question your goverment.... --------------------------------- Kman, Yeh, there will some tough times, but we shall overcome. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

03-27-2003, 01:10 AM	#18
czarkazm Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 225	Here's a nice rendition of how it will all play out over the next 9 months: http://idleworm.wolffelaar.nl/nws/2002/11/swf/iraq2.swf

03-27-2003, 01:14 AM	#19
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	it's not going to be vietnam.. the US will "win" the only slant on the situation in which Ritter may be right will be in the guerilla warfare afterwards, taking out peacekeepers and US installed officials.

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smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	not enough tropps to take baghdad? i'm sure if they're aren't enough in country right now that there will be soon enough. scott ritter prolly has some strange homosexual love for saddam hussein going on. must be the mustache? __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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03-27-2003, 07:20 AM	#25
Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	The question is not "are we going to lose" It's how far will we go to win. I'm not talking nukes here, I?m talking how much is a human life worth, Blow up specific buildings - lose X US soldiers Level 1/4 of Baghdad - save X number soldiers Level 1/2 of Baghdad - save X2 American soldiers. Start Operation Baghdad Parking complex - Save X10 soldiers It's all about how much we will have to spend to put the cities back together. To say that we can?t win is ridiculous, Do we have the financial backing to rebuild Iraq the way we want it to look with out loosing controlling interest? That is a different question.

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03-27-2003, 09:14 AM	#32
Big Nath Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 332	Yeah this is a tough one to debate about i reckon... One thing youve gotta understand is that the iraqi people have been thru this before, they've been living with war for the last 15 years. They've also had a promise broken that they would be free'd 12 years ago that wasnt carried out. If the iraqi people are that tired of their promises being broken by u bloody americans and actually decide to fight along side saddam, then this war is gunna go on for frickin ages because it will be fought in the streets and the americans will have another somalia on their hands where they dont know whos friendly and whos not. That is what i am worried about, and this will not be over inside 6 months.. I reckon it will carry on for the better part of a year !! Just my