50k and only 86 signups today? wtf? - GoFuckYourself.com

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:02 PM

hmm

This is defying all laws of physics here!

I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's.

50k to the gallery

709 to the sponsor

and only 68 signups?

wtf?

heres the gallery:
http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html

did i majorly fuck this up somehow?

Turboface · 03-26-2003, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
hmm

This is defying all laws of physics here!

I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's.

50k to the gallery

709 to the sponsor

and only 68 signups?

wtf?

heres the gallery:
http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html

did i majorly fuck this up somehow?

Where did you buy the traffic from?

TDF · 03-26-2003, 10:04 PM

well first off...you can tell a total whitey wrote the text....ebony surfers like a little flair in text..like you really do love what your doing..

Gman.357 · 03-26-2003, 10:04 PM

Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface

Where did you buy the traffic from?

Rather not say, i dont want them thinking that im implying they have shit traffic, this could be 100% my fault, thats why im asking

Pipecrew · 03-26-2003, 10:06 PM

Someone get me a new pair of boots, Its getting difficult walking around in all this HORSESHIT

TDF · 03-26-2003, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

sssshhh

psyko514 · 03-26-2003, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

i think he's complaining about the click-thru rate on the gallery. 50k hits, and only 709 clicked thru to the sponsor.

WiredGuy · 03-26-2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

You read right, you probably didn't visit the sponsor and notice it's a 4Free sponsor though...

WG

Martin · 03-26-2003, 10:08 PM

I think he's FULL OF SHIT..

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

exactly

the ratio is 1:9 but thats not what im complaining about ...

Doing my math i see it this way ...

50k to the gallery ...
5% CTR = 2,500
1:9 = 277 signups

I SHOULD have gotten 277 signups (based on my math) which is why i didnt mind dishing out the bucks for the spots.

I need to correct this FAST before anymore traffic comes and i waste it.

rdunn404 · 03-26-2003, 10:09 PM

title reads: 86 signups
message reads: 68 signups

...which is it? Get your story straight O.J.!!!

pine · 03-26-2003, 10:09 PM

is it 86? or 68? either way, playboy...that's a great ratio from a so-so ebony gallery hosted on an "asiababes" domain.

lol@dunn....

mike503 · 03-26-2003, 10:09 PM

you got 68 (or 86) signups on that gallery?

nocostporn · 03-26-2003, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

free signups

Pointless · 03-26-2003, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining?

Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio.

What am I reading wrong?

yeah its only 1 dollar per sign so nothing special still 1:10 aint to shabby ctr blows however.

playa · 03-26-2003, 10:12 PM

the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery

email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale

btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
I think he's FULL OF SHIT..

why would i lie about an email sponsor? lol

<img src="http://www.pleasuredvds.com/delete/ftc.jpg">

Gutterboy · 03-26-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery

email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale

btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

DrewKole · 03-26-2003, 10:15 PM

Erm, going from 1 free site to another...

Whats the interest in that gallery? They've already hit your site from a free site, I imagine they'll just close the gallery and scroll down for more.

Promote something unique, or atleast put some unique text there.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery

email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale

btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

i just figured if i can pull 1:8-1:15 (which i can), this would work out pretty well.

Aparently i was wrong? lol

What can i do to quickly increase my CTR?

playa · 03-26-2003, 10:16 PM

try to be more creative with your galleries,

a good gallery layout could take over 3 hours to make

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
try to be more creative with your galleries,

a good gallery layout could take over 3 hours to make

So your saying this layout is bad? I actually liked it ... figured it was the text thats throwing off my CTR, not my layout.

FrankWhite · 03-26-2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
hmm

This is defying all laws of physics here!

I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's.

50k to the gallery

709 to the sponsor

and only 68 signups?

wtf?

heres the gallery:
http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html

did i majorly fuck this up somehow?

what is the sponsor that you are using ?

playa · 03-26-2003, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

i just figured if i can pull 1:8-1:15 (which i can), this would work out pretty well.

Aparently i was wrong? lol

What can i do to quickly increase my CTR?

the problem is that you need to Maximize your CTR,

your not gonna get alot of clicks so its better to send it
to a say $35 sponsor,

say on the average if you convert 1:250 it'll come out better than email sponsor

send the traffic to a FPA from the gallery then add exit to email sponsor if they don't click on the FPA

thats how you maximize your traffic

playa · 03-26-2003, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

So your saying this layout is bad? I actually liked it ... figured it was the text thats throwing off my CTR, not my layout.

compare it with others,, i am surprised you even got a 5%
which is pretty high

G Sharp · 03-26-2003, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
Erm, going from 1 free site to another...

Whats the interest in that gallery? They've already hit your site from a free site, I imagine they'll just close the gallery and scroll down for more.

Promote something unique, or atleast put some unique text there.

Promote something unique...? another adult niche? or adult product? Care to illuminate?

slapass · 03-26-2003, 10:21 PM

Who only pays .80 per email? BTW he has an in between page so you can expect higher conversion rates. But it you lose some surfers so your CTR is lower.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:23 PM

Hey playa ...

I understand what you mean about the $35 sponsor and the exit solution ...

I was actually just looking to modify this gallery without changing layout or banners .... just changing text.

Hoping that will increase CTR a bit more and possibly pay me back for the gallery spots, lol

49thParallel · 03-26-2003, 10:24 PM

My

Nice FPA...I can see why you are getting fairly good ratios. Most people these days are lucky to get 1 in 25 or less with FEB.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Who only pays .80 per email? BTW he has an in between page so you can expect higher conversion rates. But it you lose some surfers so your CTR is lower.

i have this domain hosted on revsharehosting (for free) and they take $0.20 per signup on this sponsor. ($5 on other sponsors) per signup.

Good point with the inbetween page though, i bet if i remove it i will see a better CTR, yet a lower ratio ... but might work out better for me.

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-26-2003, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

So your saying this layout is bad? I actually liked it ... figured it was the text thats throwing off my CTR, not my layout.

Nothing wrong with the layout, after all it is just tables. My I suggest this, remove that banner and in its place explain what the site is about. This way the text will load first and they get a chance to read it before the Pics load. Also, surfers dont like the word FREE, when they see free they think POP UPS. Why, because when this email thingy came out every one and his mother was pushing it with TGP. CLICK HERE FOR FREE...pop up hell.

Gees , I keep coming back to edit my FREE explination, lol. You could mention FREE when , say the site has a free video sample but dont tell them the membership is free, from my expirence they dont trust that

Or you could just buy a gallery template

Good luck

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:29 PM

ok i dropped the FPA, but cant add mouseovers because one of the TGP's doesnt allow me

hope this helps!

Any tips on the text?

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

Nothing wrong with the layout, after all it is just tables. My I suggest this, remove that banner and in its place explain what the site is about. This way the text will load first and they get a chance to read it before the Pics load. Also, surfers dont like the word FREE, when they see free they think POP UPS. Why, because when this email thingy came out every one and his mother was pushing it with TGP. CLICK HERE FOR FREE...pop up hell.

Or you could just buy a gallery template

Good luck

I have bad luck with bought templates ...

#1 i think they are very graphics heavy pages

#2 i find simple templates work better (IMO)

#3 i dont like to wait 4 weeks for the template after i order it (not giving names, heh)

#4 your right about the "FREE" ... good idea

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:34 PM

wow!

I got 4 signups since i dropped the FPA in the middle!

good idea! (whoever that was)

DearAbby · 03-26-2003, 10:35 PM

I do 1:25 with PornKings Exit traffic.

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-26-2003, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

I have bad luck with bought templates ...

#1 i think they are very graphics heavy pages

#2 i find simple templates work better (IMO)

#3 i dont like to wait 4 weeks for the template after i order it (not giving names, heh)

#4 your right about the "FREE" ... good idea

"#1 i think they are very graphics heavy pages" mine are far from heavy

"#2 i find simple templates work better (IMO)" very true

"#3 i dont like to wait 4 weeks for the template after i order it (not giving names, heh)" 2 days here

Oh and I edited my "FREE" statment on my other reply, check it out

Ray

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DearAbby
I do 1:25 with PornKings Exit traffic.

thats great for exit traffic!

steffie · 03-26-2003, 10:37 PM

You may now shoot me 68 signups?

Damn, ok, so I am a broke sucker over here, that does sound good to me. I trade you anytime with my shitty signups I had today pfff

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
You may now shoot me 68 signups?

Damn, ok, so I am a broke sucker over here, that does sound good to me. I trade you anytime with my shitty signups I had today pfff

#1, it was 86 not 68 (sorry for typo above)

#2, it isnt that great, it only comes to $72 so far

costed me more than that for the gallery spots, thank goodness the bandwidth is free, lol

slapass · 03-26-2003, 10:41 PM

Careful changing the gallery if it is live. TGP's are not crazy about that. Maybe just redirect the FPA.

lil2rich4u2 · 03-26-2003, 10:44 PM

shit your right

QualityMpegs · 03-27-2003, 12:29 AM

who're you buying traffic from?

Snake Doctor · 03-27-2003, 02:29 AM

Free Tip #1 - The eye moves from left to right, not up and down. Think about that for awhile

Free Tip #2 - Don't ever buy traffic for a gallery that you haven't tested yet. Get as much "free" traffic as you can to a template, so you'll know roughly how much $$ you make per 100K hits to the gallery. Then you can look at traffic prices and have an idea of what your profit (or loss) would be if you paid for spots.

Civic3D · 03-27-2003, 02:30 AM

I think Email program not good with me

Mark · 03-27-2003, 02:43 AM

Hmmm...

!!!Just A Counter!!!

DONT CLICK!

You do know that counters are not just a charity case giving you stats out of the goodness of their hearts, don't you??

In this case its a pay counter also.. god forbid that anyone might click it and you might have to make some money from it!!

Tuga · 03-27-2003, 02:55 AM

Are tweaking the gallery after it's listed??? Nice move...

VideoJ · 03-27-2003, 07:12 AM

Quote:

I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony,

And you don't have the world ebony (or black or sista or...) anywhere in your text. Also try tieing the text to the pictures. "Wanna see hot videos of me and my black girlfriends for FREE?"

49thParallel · 03-27-2003, 10:40 AM

Lil2Rich...I was curious as to how your stats have stacked up after you removed the FPA. Have the sales actually gone up?

And, in response to a tip above about how people read ads....they do read left to right, but there is more to it then that...the actual pattern is:

1) left to right
2) Right corner to left bottom corner
3) left to right bottom
4) right bottom to left top

strobi · 03-27-2003, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
Lil2Rich...I was curious as to how your stats have stacked up after you removed the FPA. Have the sales actually gone up?

And, in response to a tip above about how people read ads....they do read left to right, but there is more to it then that...the actual pattern is:

1) left to right
2) Right corner to left bottom corner
3) left to right bottom
4) right bottom to left top

Had to read that 10 times to get it

03-26-2003, 10:08 PM	#10
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I think he's FULL OF SHIT.. __________________

03-26-2003, 10:09 PM	#14
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03-26-2003, 10:37 PM	#39
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	You may now shoot me 68 signups? Damn, ok, so I am a broke sucker over here, that does sound good to me. I trade you anytime with my shitty signups I had today pfff __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

03-27-2003, 12:29 AM	#43
QualityMpegs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,521	who're you buying traffic from? __________________ PAYSITES CATEGORIZED AND THUMBNAILED BY NICHE - 69767780

03-27-2003, 02:29 AM	#44
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Free Tip #1 - The eye moves from left to right, not up and down. Think about that for awhile Free Tip #2 - Don't ever buy traffic for a gallery that you haven't tested yet. Get as much "free" traffic as you can to a template, so you'll know roughly how much $$ you make per 100K hits to the gallery. Then you can look at traffic prices and have an idea of what your profit (or loss) would be if you paid for spots. __________________ sig too big

03-26-2003, 10:02 PM	#1
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	50k and only 86 signups today? wtf? hmm This is defying all laws of physics here! I sent 50k to a gallery promoting ebony, the traffic was from 3 paid spots, as well as 3 VIP submit accounts i have, and a bunch of smaller TGP's. 50k to the gallery 709 to the sponsor and only 68 signups? wtf? heres the gallery: http://www.asiasbabes.com/gal/ebony/index.html did i majorly fuck this up somehow?

03-26-2003, 10:04 PM	#3
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	well first off...you can tell a total whitey wrote the text....ebony surfers like a little flair in text..like you really do love what your doing.. __________________ Sig heil

03-26-2003, 10:04 PM	#4
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Wait a minute... you got 68 signups out of 709 hits to a sponsor and you're complaining? Maybe I'm not reading the post right. Because that's like 1:10 ratio. What am I reading wrong? __________________ Ouch.

03-26-2003, 10:06 PM	#6
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Someone get me a new pair of boots, Its getting difficult walking around in all this HORSESHIT

03-26-2003, 10:09 PM	#12
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	title reads: 86 signups message reads: 68 signups ...which is it? Get your story straight O.J.!!!

03-26-2003, 10:09 PM	#13
pine Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Falls, eh Posts: 1,373	is it 86? or 68? either way, playboy...that's a great ratio from a so-so ebony gallery hosted on an "asiababes" domain. lol@dunn....

03-26-2003, 10:12 PM	#17
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	the first mistake is pushing a email sponsor from a tgp gallery email should be your last ditch effort to get a sale btw 5% clickthru is pretty good

03-26-2003, 10:15 PM	#20
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Erm, going from 1 free site to another... Whats the interest in that gallery? They've already hit your site from a free site, I imagine they'll just close the gallery and scroll down for more. Promote something unique, or atleast put some unique text there.

03-26-2003, 10:16 PM	#22
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	try to be more creative with your galleries, a good gallery layout could take over 3 hours to make

03-26-2003, 10:21 PM	#28
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Who only pays .80 per email? BTW he has an in between page so you can expect higher conversion rates. But it you lose some surfers so your CTR is lower.

03-26-2003, 10:23 PM	#29
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Hey playa ... I understand what you mean about the $35 sponsor and the exit solution ... I was actually just looking to modify this gallery without changing layout or banners .... just changing text. Hoping that will increase CTR a bit more and possibly pay me back for the gallery spots, lol

03-26-2003, 10:24 PM	#30
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	My Nice FPA...I can see why you are getting fairly good ratios. Most people these days are lucky to get 1 in 25 or less with FEB.

03-26-2003, 10:29 PM	#33
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	ok i dropped the FPA, but cant add mouseovers because one of the TGP's doesnt allow me hope this helps! Any tips on the text?

03-26-2003, 10:34 PM	#35
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	wow! I got 4 signups since i dropped the FPA in the middle! good idea! (whoever that was)

03-26-2003, 10:35 PM	#36
DearAbby Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NoCal Posts: 979	I do 1:25 with PornKings Exit traffic.

03-26-2003, 10:41 PM	#41
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Careful changing the gallery if it is live. TGP's are not crazy about that. Maybe just redirect the FPA.

03-26-2003, 10:44 PM	#42
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	shit your right

03-27-2003, 02:30 AM	#45
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03-27-2003, 02:43 AM	#46
Mark Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 600	Hmmm... !!!Just A Counter!!! DONT CLICK! You do know that counters are not just a charity case giving you stats out of the goodness of their hearts, don't you?? In this case its a pay counter also.. god forbid that anyone might click it and you might have to make some money from it!!

03-27-2003, 02:55 AM	#47
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Are tweaking the gallery after it's listed??? Nice move... __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

03-27-2003, 10:40 AM	#49
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Lil2Rich...I was curious as to how your stats have stacked up after you removed the FPA. Have the sales actually gone up? And, in response to a tip above about how people read ads....they do read left to right, but there is more to it then that...the actual pattern is: 1) left to right 2) Right corner to left bottom corner 3) left to right bottom 4) right bottom to left top