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DarkJedi · 03-27-2003, 02:09 AM

Fuck him. He isn't playing by the rules.

I think when google finds out about him they will be pretty quick to ban him (search all the domains by IP) and fix the hole so no one does it again.

grumpy · 03-27-2003, 06:42 AM

i can write the script, its not that hard. But i need a few webmasters to join in. Reason is that the pages linking to eachother should be on completely diffrent ip ranges. So who wants to join in.

web4x · 03-27-2003, 09:43 AM

Today he is still in, I will start counting

phogirl69 · 03-27-2003, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce
Why is everyone acting like this guy has some sort of ultra-script? Kloakit costs like $40 and I've used it to produce thousands of pages. It has the random text feature, random links to other kloakit-cloaked pages on your sites, etc. If you're willing to spend a little time tweaking your Kloakit templates, I don't see the problem. I guess since each page Kloakit produces is actually a PERL script, it may start to bog you down if you're getting 250,000 search engine hits/day, but if you've made it to that point...

SpaceAce

Hi SpaceAce,

Did you have good results with Kloakit, and did your pages get banned using this script? Thanks!

xxxjay · 03-27-2003, 12:50 PM

OK - I see that there are some SE mental midgets on this page. First, if this guy is kicking ass - don't hate on him - I'm sure he worked hard for it.

1. The page is cloaked. Here is the google SERP:

Black teen pussy? Looking for black teen pussy?
Black teen pussy? Looking for black teen pussy? ... Black teen pussy become environmental australia pictures agreement fold tuesday baby. ...
www.black-teen-pussy.info/ - Similar pages

If you look at the page - you can see that none of that text apprears on the page. I have done some cloaking in my time. Google is officialy against it, claims the can detect it, but says as long as the page is relevant you proably won't get banned for it.

He doesn't even have any big links. Google only show links back from sites that are PR or >:

Links
Total links found and processed = 0
Linking pages from within target domain = 0
Linking pages from within same Class C address block = 0
Links from Yahoo = 0
Links from ODP = 0

These term are are hard to nail and he is getting a lot by having good domains and a well cloaked page.

Hope list helps.

Lane · 03-27-2003, 01:03 PM

Everyone should flood google with complaints.. he should be banned soon.

3Xguru · 03-27-2003, 01:30 PM

I think this guy may make even more than 50K/day. SE traffic converts like crazy.

web4x · 03-27-2003, 03:12 PM

7 days = 350k

Jon · 03-27-2003, 03:20 PM

Well I'd like to comment on this person's methods.

He did a superb job getting tons of his pages if not all on Google's first page pretty damn quickly. I'd say the reason for this is because he probably had one main page with links to these smaller pages that was picked up by Google during its crawl about a week or two ago. Google then followed all of the links on that main page, which directed it to these smaller doorways. Technically, he hasn't really done anything so wrong except for maybe the redirection (which is not illegal, it's just looked down upon in the SEO community). He didn't put same color text/background keywords, he did link to all of the pages on the first level, which is what many people do. Truthfully I respect him for doing this, it goes to show that with a lot of time on hand and a good idea, anyone can get on top of the engines. Someone asked how much he's making from this, I'd ballpark range it at around $30,000 per week if not more. That in itself makes the whole thing worthwhile to him, and it also proves to him that he can use this method with any keyword, for any niche, with any sponsor. Unfortunately, if he does get banned, Google will start an investigation on him, and it may result in a lot of problems for him in the future. I don't think Google will catch onto this either until another 2-3 months, unless there are heavy reports on him. Last but not least, his H1's are beautiful.

Pipecrew · 03-27-2003, 03:22 PM

crazy, he lives in Barrie ontario area haha

SpaceAce · 03-27-2003, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phogirl69

Hi SpaceAce,

Did you have good results with Kloakit, and did your pages get banned using this script? Thanks!

Well, the pages all get into the engines but I never got any really high rankings. That's probably more due to my lack of patience than anything else. I've never had any problems with bannings or anything.

SpaceAce

Jon · 03-27-2003, 03:44 PM

Hand produced pages are always better than script generated pages. I'm sure most SEO'ers would agree. But you can always take the less time consuming shortcut and generate a billion pages.

phogirl69 · 03-27-2003, 05:32 PM

What's better, user agent cloaking or ip cloaking?

Anyone else her besides SpaceAce have good luck using
Kloak It?

funkmaster · 03-27-2003, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by web4x
Yes, it's wrong because he steals everyones money with this tactic.

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

... this guy is not doing anything wrong !!

funkmaster · 03-27-2003, 05:40 PM

btw: looks like some true SE experts hang out here ... let me uncloak his pages ...

http://translate.google.com/translat...ussy-pics.biz/

Brujah · 03-27-2003, 05:41 PM

If he isn't doing anything wrong, don't worry about it. Google wouldn't just punish innocent webmasters.. would they ?

Brujah · 03-27-2003, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
btw: looks like some true SE experts hang out here ... let me uncloak his pages ...

http://translate.google.com/translat...ussy-pics.biz/

You must've missed that on the first page.. that it wasn't industrial strength cloaking but just a simple useragent detect.

Rip · 03-27-2003, 05:47 PM

Good for him/her

xxxjay · 03-28-2003, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
Everyone should flood google with complaints.. he should be banned soon.

Dude - you are a fucking fag!

web4x · 03-29-2003, 04:29 AM

Today he finally got banned with all his spam bullshit.
Fuck him.

DarkJedi · 03-29-2003, 05:01 AM

nice.

DarkJedi · 03-29-2003, 05:05 AM

xxxjay said he wasnt doing anything wrong.

you know what he was doing wrong ? he spammed google with 1000s of his domains that didn't have any content

web4x · 03-29-2003, 10:52 AM

Yes, he had no content only FPAs. Now he is history.

psyko514 · 03-29-2003, 10:54 AM

so what?
search for nude lesbians and see what you get now
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...=nude+lesbians

result #3:
http://www.lesbian-sex-videos-online...sing-lesbians/

pantymaniac · 03-29-2003, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
so what?
search for nude lesbians and see what you get now
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...=nude+lesbians

result #3:
http://www.lesbian-sex-videos-online...sing-lesbians/

holy fuck !

This is SPAM too .. so what : it have to be removed too

psyko514 · 03-29-2003, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac

holy fuck !

This is SPAM too .. so what : it have to be removed too

and once you get him removed, another one will pop up. it's an endless cycle, so continue on your crusade and see where it gets you.

xxxjay · 03-29-2003, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

and once you get him removed, another one will pop up. it's an endless cycle, so continue on your crusade and see where it gets you.

God damn - I'm glad I don't deal drugs cause ya'll are a bunch of NARCS.

What, is everything spam until you are #1?

Even people who "cheat" - these kind of pages only last a few months will the are caught by google.

Dan't hate a Player - hate the game.

SomeCreep · 03-30-2003, 05:35 AM

This fucker isnt gone by a long shot. He still has hundreds and hundreds of domains with dozens if not hundreds of pages on each domain that have first page listings for EVERY adult keyword I search for. I agree with everyone else, that everyday this guy is making many thousands of dollars with his listings.

Jay, although I give this fucker credit for figuring out how to manipulate googles search results, what hes done is still completely unethical and abusive of google's service. Its good for him but fucks up everyone else. Personally, I feel this guy should be shot in the head and buried with his $100K in affiliate checks.

I've reported him to google and pointed them to this thread for more info. Personally though, this guy has gone to such extremes that I believe hes going to stay in google's search results for good.

One things for sure, Google definitely has a flaw/exploit/weakness in their search and list algorithms.

4eym · 03-30-2003, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep
This fucker isnt gone by a long shot.

Agreed!

jojojo · 03-30-2003, 06:54 AM

Quote:

holy fuck !

This is SPAM too .. so what : it have to be removed too

A site with an FPA is not spam.
Crosslinking and fake PR is spam.

Living For Today · 03-30-2003, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep
This fucker isnt gone by a long shot. He still has hundreds and hundreds of domains with dozens if not hundreds of pages on each domain that have first page listings for EVERY adult keyword I search for. I agree with everyone else, that everyday this guy is making many thousands of dollars with his listings.

Jay, although I give this fucker credit for figuring out how to manipulate googles search results, what hes done is still completely unethical and abusive of google's service. Its good for him but fucks up everyone else. Personally, I feel this guy should be shot in the head and buried with his $100K in affiliate checks.

I've reported him to google and pointed them to this thread for more info. Personally though, this guy has gone to such extremes that I believe hes going to stay in google's search results for good.

One things for sure, Google definitely has a flaw/exploit/weakness in their search and list algorithms.

all of you are a bunch of jealous kunts. do you think if you found out a way to make tens of thousands of dollars a day even if it wasnt illegal you would think "hmmmm a few people who arent as smart as me might think its unethical so i wont do it"

get a fucking brain you schmucks. your jealous coz u didnt do it first.

wimpy · 03-30-2003, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by czarkazm
Here's the most beautiful thing.....some of those domains were registered just 3-4 days ago.....gets them listed and #1 in a matter of days...

I think this is why. Google loves fresh content. I've put up a new site, and had it rank #1 for impossibly competetive keywords (internet marketing). It helps I'm sure that google found the new site via links, so it had some link pop right away. Still, new is loved by google, and I predict his top rank will go away within a month.

fnet · 03-30-2003, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wimpy

I think this is why. Google loves fresh content. I've put up a new site, and had it rank #1 for impossibly competetive keywords (internet marketing). It helps I'm sure that google found the new site via links, so it had some link pop right away. Still, new is loved by google, and I predict his top rank will go away within a month.

Yep weird stuff happens when your site is greybar yet linked from...

wait, why am I telling a bunch of grubby cheater narcs this?

03-27-2003, 06:42 AM	#102
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	i can write the script, its not that hard. But i need a few webmasters to join in. Reason is that the pages linking to eachother should be on completely diffrent ip ranges. So who wants to join in. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

03-27-2003, 12:50 PM	#105
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	OK - I see that there are some SE mental midgets on this page. First, if this guy is kicking ass - don't hate on him - I'm sure he worked hard for it. 1. The page is cloaked. Here is the google SERP: Black teen pussy? Looking for black teen pussy? Black teen pussy? Looking for black teen pussy? ... Black teen pussy become environmental australia pictures agreement fold tuesday baby. ... www.black-teen-pussy.info/ - Similar pages If you look at the page - you can see that none of that text apprears on the page. I have done some cloaking in my time. Google is officialy against it, claims the can detect it, but says as long as the page is relevant you proably won't get banned for it. He doesn't even have any big links. Google only show links back from sites that are PR or >: Links Total links found and processed = 0 Linking pages from within target domain = 0 Linking pages from within same Class C address block = 0 Links from Yahoo = 0 Links from ODP = 0 These term are are hard to nail and he is getting a lot by having good domains and a well cloaked page. Hope list helps. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

03-27-2003, 01:03 PM	#106
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	Everyone should flood google with complaints.. he should be banned soon. __________________

03-27-2003, 01:30 PM	#107
3Xguru Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Iasi Posts: 1,281	I think this guy may make even more than 50K/day. SE traffic converts like crazy. __________________ -=Free Webmaster Tools=-

03-27-2003, 03:20 PM	#109
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	Well I'd like to comment on this person's methods. He did a superb job getting tons of his pages if not all on Google's first page pretty damn quickly. I'd say the reason for this is because he probably had one main page with links to these smaller pages that was picked up by Google during its crawl about a week or two ago. Google then followed all of the links on that main page, which directed it to these smaller doorways. Technically, he hasn't really done anything so wrong except for maybe the redirection (which is not illegal, it's just looked down upon in the SEO community). He didn't put same color text/background keywords, he did link to all of the pages on the first level, which is what many people do. Truthfully I respect him for doing this, it goes to show that with a lot of time on hand and a good idea, anyone can get on top of the engines. Someone asked how much he's making from this, I'd ballpark range it at around $30,000 per week if not more. That in itself makes the whole thing worthwhile to him, and it also proves to him that he can use this method with any keyword, for any niche, with any sponsor. Unfortunately, if he does get banned, Google will start an investigation on him, and it may result in a lot of problems for him in the future. I don't think Google will catch onto this either until another 2-3 months, unless there are heavy reports on him. Last but not least, his H1's are beautiful. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

03-27-2003, 02:09 AM	#101
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Fuck him. He isn't playing by the rules. I think when google finds out about him they will be pretty quick to ban him (search all the domains by IP) and fix the hole so no one does it again.

03-27-2003, 09:43 AM	#103
web4x Will everyone please review my newest site? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 841	Today he is still in, I will start counting

03-27-2003, 03:12 PM	#108
web4x Will everyone please review my newest site? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 841	7 days = 350k

03-27-2003, 03:22 PM	#110
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	crazy, he lives in Barrie ontario area haha

03-27-2003, 03:44 PM	#112
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	Hand produced pages are always better than script generated pages. I'm sure most SEO'ers would agree. But you can always take the less time consuming shortcut and generate a billion pages. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

03-27-2003, 05:32 PM	#113
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	What's better, user agent cloaking or ip cloaking? Anyone else her besides SpaceAce have good luck using Kloak It?

03-27-2003, 05:40 PM	#115
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	btw: looks like some true SE experts hang out here ... let me uncloak his pages ... http://translate.google.com/translat...ussy-pics.biz/

03-27-2003, 05:41 PM	#116
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	If he isn't doing anything wrong, don't worry about it. Google wouldn't just punish innocent webmasters.. would they ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-27-2003, 05:47 PM	#118
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	Good for him/her

03-29-2003, 04:29 AM	#120
web4x Will everyone please review my newest site? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 841	Today he finally got banned with all his spam bullshit. Fuck him.

03-29-2003, 05:01 AM	#121
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	nice.

03-29-2003, 05:05 AM	#122
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	xxxjay said he wasnt doing anything wrong. you know what he was doing wrong ? he spammed google with 1000s of his domains that didn't have any content

03-29-2003, 10:52 AM	#123
web4x Will everyone please review my newest site? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 841	Yes, he had no content only FPAs. Now he is history.

03-29-2003, 10:54 AM	#124
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	so what? search for nude lesbians and see what you get now http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...=nude+lesbians result #3: http://www.lesbian-sex-videos-online...sing-lesbians/ __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

03-30-2003, 05:35 AM	#128
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	This fucker isnt gone by a long shot. He still has hundreds and hundreds of domains with dozens if not hundreds of pages on each domain that have first page listings for EVERY adult keyword I search for. I agree with everyone else, that everyday this guy is making many thousands of dollars with his listings. Jay, although I give this fucker credit for figuring out how to manipulate googles search results, what hes done is still completely unethical and abusive of google's service. Its good for him but fucks up everyone else. Personally, I feel this guy should be shot in the head and buried with his $100K in affiliate checks. I've reported him to google and pointed them to this thread for more info. Personally though, this guy has gone to such extremes that I believe hes going to stay in google's search results for good. One things for sure, Google definitely has a flaw/exploit/weakness in their search and list algorithms.