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lawpal · 03-22-2003, 06:56 AM

By my count it has been down apprx. 10 hours. Mother fuckers!

Anybody else having this problem.

AdultNex · 03-22-2003, 07:02 AM

Down for me.

lawpal · 03-22-2003, 07:03 AM

Here is their response.

one of the hards in raid went down. the array needs to be
rebuild and it takes a while .. it\'s huge.
sorry for this situation.

Where the fuck is the backup?

Herb Kornfield · 03-22-2003, 07:04 AM

Down here......Cat musta flown into the connection and taken it out

AdultNex · 03-22-2003, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lawpal
Here is their response.

one of the hards in raid went down. the array needs to be
rebuild and it takes a while .. it\'s huge.
sorry for this situation.

Where the fuck is the backup?

Same happened with HostHybrid.

NineNine · 03-22-2003, 07:13 AM

They don't sound very "pro" to me. The whole point of a RAID is ZERO downtime. I'd find another host. These guys don't sound too bright.

plexer · 03-22-2003, 07:28 AM

Dame! What kind of system are they running over there - They have every site on the same RAID? That sucks...

RAID Definition : Random Access to Invisible Disks

DarkJedi · 03-22-2003, 07:35 AM

why do you even host there ? the owner is a maniac who beats up animals.

mrthumbs · 03-22-2003, 08:46 AM

http://www.thumbsz.com/ph/

http://www.thumbsz.com/ph/

http://www.thumbsz.com/ph/

chupacabra · 03-22-2003, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Same happened with HostHybrid.

was thinking the same thing... perhaps their both hosted on the same old creaking 486SX-33..

FlyingIguana · 03-22-2003, 10:09 AM

i'd like to know why people still use these dicks?

chupacabra · 03-22-2003, 10:13 AM

Quote:

i'd like to know why people still use these dicks?

i know... even if most of their customer base doesn't frequent GFY and is privy to all of the prohosters-hatred that circulates here, you would think the often and extended downtimes would thin out their customer base pretty quickly... 10 hour downtimes due to hardware issues are inexcusable in this industry. hell, on saturday no less..

Probono · 03-22-2003, 11:46 AM

This is odd stuff. I know nothing about Prohosters but I do know this. The purpose of a RAID array is to stay up after a drive failure, rebuilding is done in the backround. It is hard to believe they only have one drive array holding all their web sites.

Briscoe · 03-22-2003, 01:02 PM

I used prohosters for a year before dumping them in Feb. Virtual hosting shouldn't be that expensive.
<br>

NineNine · 03-22-2003, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono
This is odd stuff. I know nothing about Prohosters but I do know this. The purpose of a RAID array is to stay up after a drive failure, rebuilding is done in the backround. It is hard to believe they only have one drive array holding all their web sites.

That's true... I'm sitting in front of an el-cheap-o ($250) IDE 2 drive RAID right now at my PC, and it has *zero* downtime. I can't believe a hosting company can't do at *least* that. Sounds like a complete bullshit excuse. My guess is that they have one hard drive for the whole damn thing, and they're busily restoring the backup right now. What a nightmare! Do people actually PAY them money for that??

Mishi · 03-22-2003, 10:44 PM

If you have anything on Water, might want to check your sites. About half of mine are intact, the other half have been restored to the AUGUST FUCKING 9, 2002 backup. And one is just plain no longer available, at least not through FTP.

I'm (almost) as mad at myself for still being with them as I am for the latest fuck-up. Procrastination is not a good thing. This time, we're outta there.

How does the saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well, gosh-darn, shame on you again...repeat ad nauseum...

jim manly · 03-22-2003, 10:50 PM

A couple of my best trades have been down for over 24 hours according to my stats. I know they host with prohosters.

chupacabra · 03-22-2003, 11:07 PM

good christ, is water still not restored? what the fuck is going on over there..? ted, *put down the cat*..!

SureFire · 03-22-2003, 11:19 PM

http://prohosters.com/

Has been up for me.

Kick Ass Chat · 03-22-2003, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra
good christ, is water still not restored? what the fuck is going on over there..? ted, *put down the cat*..!

Still down??.....

Sarah_Jayne · 03-23-2003, 04:59 AM

had to re-upload a bunch of stuff

AdultNex · 03-23-2003, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SureFire
http://prohosters.com/

Has been up for me.

That's because you just checked it when it went up.

It's back up now.

Kat - Fast · 03-23-2003, 08:12 AM

Dear Customer:

At approximately 10:30PM EST March 21 2003 Pro Hosters
experienced several drive failures on our cluster raid for the server
cluster water.4ph.com. Subsequently, all live backups were all
corrupted
due to filesystem errors and we were left with a manual backup we did a
couple of months back.

Our staff has been working around the clock to recover the
data from the original raid. Although the outcome looked bleak we
believe
we will have an answer within the next 3 hours as to whether we have
recovered the data from the first array. A second array has been put
in
the place of the first with a backup from a few months back. We will
mount
all the data if we can recover it and move the data to the new array.

Obviously there is a flaw in live real-time backup if it copies
the corruption over. Therefore we will implement tape backup archives
from now
on, on a daily basis. Pro Hosters has not guaranteed the data safety
for
any customer in the past, however we anticipate by April 1 2003 we will
be able
to guarantee the data.

We thank all of our customers for their continued patience and
support as work to resolve this matter as quickly as possible.

Pro Hosters Support Team

Sarah_Jayne · 03-23-2003, 08:18 AM

and its back down for me

AdultNex · 03-23-2003, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Obviously there is a flaw in live real-time backup if it copies
the corruption over. Therefore we will implement tape backup archives
from now
on, on a daily basis.

Learning from your mistakes is a no-no in the hosting business.

Quoth the Raven · 03-23-2003, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
i'd like to know why people still use these dicks?

According to Raven's freaks, It's the unique free IP per domain and the unlimited domains hosting that make them use Prohosters.

chupacabra · 03-23-2003, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Learning from your mistakes is a no-no in the hosting business.

amen... these guys are unprofessional as they come..

lawpal · 03-23-2003, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kat

Dear Customer:

.... we were left with a manual backup we did a
couple of months back......

fucking assholes!

Vendot · 03-23-2003, 11:55 AM

Anyone know a good alternative to prohosters which is priced about the same for the really cheap virtual packages and allows multiple sites?

I must stress that its for mostly non-adult sites.

JohnnyUtah · 03-23-2003, 11:59 AM

vendot, give me a shout
icq 22885107
sales at bullhosting.com

Briscoe · 03-23-2003, 12:35 PM

Try velcom. They have hosting starter package that has 30 gigs of traffic for $7.95/mo.<br>

Kat - Fast · 03-23-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Quoth the Raven

According to Raven's freaks, It's the unique free IP per domain and the unlimited domains hosting that make them use Prohosters.

aye - but they can fuck that deal now unless they have a more recent backup.

webair · 03-23-2003, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vendot
Anyone know a good alternative to prohosters which is priced about the same for the really cheap virtual packages and allows multiple sites?

I must stress that its for mostly non-adult sites.

hit me up i'll give you an awesome deal - anyone frequenting GFY gets the hookup at Webair.com

Mishi · 03-24-2003, 04:13 PM

It just keeps getting better.

--------
Dear Customer:

As you are aware on 03/21/03 at approximately 10:00PM EST we
lost our primary drive RAID array and we unsure of being able to recover the
data. We then installed a NEW RAID array with a couple of month old backup
and allowed customers to upload their content to that RAID array and were
back online.

Amazingly our second RAID array was lost yesterday with
the entire backup and the new data that was uploaded. We did install
yet ANOTHER RAID array that you can now upload your content to if you
posess backups. You will need to file a ticket asking that your usernames
and domains are readded. We have recovered A LOT of data from the FIRST
RAID array that failed on 03/21/03 10:00PM EST and are continuing to recover
more. However if you have complete backups of your data filing a ticket
to readd your username / domains is probably faster than relying on the
recovered data we have.

As unfortunate as these events are, we are working around the
clock to make every possible effort to recover your data and put your sites
back online. We are also going forward going to change our policy regarding
backups which is presently we don't offer any guarantee on data to we will
provide daily tape backups.

We appreciate the OVERWHELMING customer support in this matter
and will take care of each and every customer. You may join our online support
to ask questions and/or try to get your data restored by going to:

http://prohosters.com
and clicking on support or using an IRC client and going to irc.prohosters.com
and channel #prohosters or #virtuals.

Thank you for your understanding and patience in this matter.

Pro Hosters Support Team
[email protected]

-----

DrGuile · 03-24-2003, 04:22 PM

I though they went out of business when their providers pulled the plug on them for spamming...

no?

ok....

----
*FYI*Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks *FYI*

chupacabra · 03-24-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Amazingly our second RAID array was lost yesterday with

haha, these guys are such idiots... wonder where these guys buy their *mission critical* arrays, Wal-Mart? i'm sorry, but anyone who is still hosting w/ these ass-hats has had fair warning, its hard for me to be sympathetic. fuck you prohosters, you guys make hostilehybrid look good..

webair · 03-24-2003, 04:52 PM

Anyone in need of instant setup and stable reliable hosting hit me up we'll have you up and running in no time.

sludger · 03-26-2003, 01:36 AM

chupacabra,

You say the most ridiculous things instead of thinking before you type. These issues are in no way related. I really hate to go to the AID of PH but you are a biased individual without any facts whatsoever. If they lost a mission criritcal RAID and informed their customers about it and managed to recover the data which I am hearing they did, and STAY in business, then you can't compare them at all to hosthybrid. Yes Ted is a complete asshole however you can't compare apples to oranges. I don't think Ted is all that comprises PH nor do I think he's the antichrist of the internet. I wouldn't host with him but that' my opinion and it's surely not because of a virtual hosting RAID array going down. HostHybrid was obviously a scam which PH is not and therefore PH going down CANNOT make HostHybrid look good. HostHybrid are crooks. PH is just stupid for letting cat videos ever get to the internet in the first place.

MRTHUMBS,
I'd be careful with flashing your URL everywhere, I hear that Ted has been claiming DMCA on the videos since his victory in court (this was reported to me by an employee within PH) Apparently, VA STATE lost in court and Ted was exhonnerated of all charges. He apparently kept all charges quiet. Maybe he had a good attorney, maybe he had validity in his story I have no idea regardless he has beaten the system. The cats were proven to be in PERFECT HEALTHY conditions. And I'm sure even though part of his defense was that the videos weren't made by him that doesn't matter for DMCA. Let a dead horse lie.

Chris

chupacabra · 03-26-2003, 01:47 AM

Quote:

If they lost a mission criritcal RAID and informed their customers about it and managed to recover the data which I am hearing they did, and STAY in business,

chris, i have friends that for some reason still use prohosters, the PH solution so far has to been restore backup sets that are *many* months old, this is very different than doing a normal restore from current media... sorry friend, but PH sucks, and i haev no problem saying it.

my comparison between PH and HH is that they both spout shit, *and* they both claimed their problems were due to failng Raid arrays, within days of each other... if that doesn't explain where my comparison was born, then sorry, cant help ya mang..

sludger · 03-26-2003, 02:05 AM

The reason your friends still use PH is because they have had a good experience or they feel some type of loyality to them or that they feel the price is right. PH hosts some very big names in our business. They didn't get them by accident. Now Ted is an asshole but I hardly doubt he is trying to be like HH or trying to stir publicity by being like HH. I think they are two different animals, and I for one do not believe they are lying about the RAID failing, because it does happen. From my sources at PH (both employees and customers) they were able to recover the data from 3 days ago. However if you read their TOS it's very plain they don't guarantee this in the first place. I have friends there on dedicated plans and they never have issues except network outtages which happen. To base your entire opinion of PH on the fact that some fat fuck threw a cat and his virtual RAID went down is absurd. I am in this business to make money and whatever makes me money is what I'm going to do. Now I'll get flamed for this next comment, but I think if Ted got his shit together and stopped making a complete asshole out of himself PH could be a great hosting company, they are apparently going mainstream and not adult oriented at all. National Net is still the best in my book though.

Chris

Juggernaut · 03-26-2003, 02:12 AM

After 1 year with PH, I switched to Webair. Mike hooked me up with a deal; just as cheap, only bigger and better... I don't need drama with my hosting.

I pay for something, I expect it delivered. We are in this business to make money, if I was getting it for free, I would have nothing to complain about.

sludger · 03-26-2003, 02:15 AM

Nobody said people don't switch Jugg but at the same time you switched after having a track record of them. You didn't base it all on one incident. Not that any of it matters, because I do not think PH will accept adult anymore, soon. My sources say that PH is getting out of adult completely. And I can show you 10 of my friends who had horror stories with Webair. They are just the hosting company of the month in my book. Jumping on an oppurtunity. There simply is no one better than National Net in my mind, but I'm sure in manys that same company is PH.

Chris

03-22-2003, 06:56 AM	#1
lawpal Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 824	Prohosters Down? By my count it has been down apprx. 10 hours. Mother fuckers! Anybody else having this problem.

03-22-2003, 07:28 AM	#7
plexer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NJ/AZ Posts: 1,339	Dame! What kind of system are they running over there - They have every site on the same RAID? That sucks... RAID Definition : Random Access to Invisible Disks __________________ I'M FREEEEE!!!!

03-22-2003, 01:02 PM	#14
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03-22-2003, 10:44 PM	#16
Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	If you have anything on Water, might want to check your sites. About half of mine are intact, the other half have been restored to the AUGUST FUCKING 9, 2002 backup. And one is just plain no longer available, at least not through FTP. I'm (almost) as mad at myself for still being with them as I am for the latest fuck-up. Procrastination is not a good thing. This time, we're outta there. How does the saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well, gosh-darn, shame on you again...repeat ad nauseum... __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

03-22-2003, 10:50 PM	#17
jim manly Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 605	A couple of my best trades have been down for over 24 hours according to my stats. I know they host with prohosters. __________________

03-22-2003, 07:02 AM	#2
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Down for me.

03-22-2003, 07:03 AM	#3
lawpal Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 824	Here is their response. one of the hards in raid went down. the array needs to be rebuild and it takes a while .. it\'s huge. sorry for this situation. Where the fuck is the backup?

03-22-2003, 07:04 AM	#4
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	Down here......Cat musta flown into the connection and taken it out

03-22-2003, 07:13 AM	#6
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	They don't sound very "pro" to me. The whole point of a RAID is ZERO downtime. I'd find another host. These guys don't sound too bright.

03-22-2003, 07:35 AM	#8
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	why do you even host there ? the owner is a maniac who beats up animals.

03-22-2003, 08:46 AM	#9
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03-22-2003, 10:09 AM	#11
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i'd like to know why people still use these dicks?

03-22-2003, 11:46 AM	#13
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	This is odd stuff. I know nothing about Prohosters but I do know this. The purpose of a RAID array is to stay up after a drive failure, rebuilding is done in the backround. It is hard to believe they only have one drive array holding all their web sites.

03-22-2003, 11:07 PM	#18
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	good christ, is water still not restored? what the fuck is going on over there..? ted, put down the cat..!

03-22-2003, 11:19 PM	#19
SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	http://prohosters.com/ Has been up for me.

03-23-2003, 04:59 AM	#21
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	had to re-upload a bunch of stuff

03-23-2003, 08:12 AM	#23
Kat - Fast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The bushes behind your house Posts: 2,303	Dear Customer: At approximately 10:30PM EST March 21 2003 Pro Hosters experienced several drive failures on our cluster raid for the server cluster water.4ph.com. Subsequently, all live backups were all corrupted due to filesystem errors and we were left with a manual backup we did a couple of months back. Our staff has been working around the clock to recover the data from the original raid. Although the outcome looked bleak we believe we will have an answer within the next 3 hours as to whether we have recovered the data from the first array. A second array has been put in the place of the first with a backup from a few months back. We will mount all the data if we can recover it and move the data to the new array. Obviously there is a flaw in live real-time backup if it copies the corruption over. Therefore we will implement tape backup archives from now on, on a daily basis. Pro Hosters has not guaranteed the data safety for any customer in the past, however we anticipate by April 1 2003 we will be able to guarantee the data. We thank all of our customers for their continued patience and support as work to resolve this matter as quickly as possible. Pro Hosters Support Team

03-23-2003, 08:18 AM	#24
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	and its back down for me

03-23-2003, 11:55 AM	#29
Vendot Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,376	Anyone know a good alternative to prohosters which is priced about the same for the really cheap virtual packages and allows multiple sites? I must stress that its for mostly non-adult sites. Last edited by Vendot; 03-23-2003 at 12:19 PM..

03-23-2003, 11:59 AM	#30
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03-23-2003, 12:35 PM	#31
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03-24-2003, 04:13 PM	#34
Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	It just keeps getting better. -------- Dear Customer: As you are aware on 03/21/03 at approximately 10:00PM EST we lost our primary drive RAID array and we unsure of being able to recover the data. We then installed a NEW RAID array with a couple of month old backup and allowed customers to upload their content to that RAID array and were back online. Amazingly our second RAID array was lost yesterday with the entire backup and the new data that was uploaded. We did install yet ANOTHER RAID array that you can now upload your content to if you posess backups. You will need to file a ticket asking that your usernames and domains are readded. We have recovered A LOT of data from the FIRST RAID array that failed on 03/21/03 10:00PM EST and are continuing to recover more. However if you have complete backups of your data filing a ticket to readd your username / domains is probably faster than relying on the recovered data we have. As unfortunate as these events are, we are working around the clock to make every possible effort to recover your data and put your sites back online. We are also going forward going to change our policy regarding backups which is presently we don't offer any guarantee on data to we will provide daily tape backups. We appreciate the OVERWHELMING customer support in this matter and will take care of each and every customer. You may join our online support to ask questions and/or try to get your data restored by going to: http://prohosters.com and clicking on support or using an IRC client and going to irc.prohosters.com and channel #prohosters or #virtuals. Thank you for your understanding and patience in this matter. Pro Hosters Support Team [email protected] ----- __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

03-24-2003, 04:22 PM	#35
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03-26-2003, 01:36 AM	#38
sludger Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13	chupacabra, You say the most ridiculous things instead of thinking before you type. These issues are in no way related. I really hate to go to the AID of PH but you are a biased individual without any facts whatsoever. If they lost a mission criritcal RAID and informed their customers about it and managed to recover the data which I am hearing they did, and STAY in business, then you can't compare them at all to hosthybrid. Yes Ted is a complete asshole however you can't compare apples to oranges. I don't think Ted is all that comprises PH nor do I think he's the antichrist of the internet. I wouldn't host with him but that' my opinion and it's surely not because of a virtual hosting RAID array going down. HostHybrid was obviously a scam which PH is not and therefore PH going down CANNOT make HostHybrid look good. HostHybrid are crooks. PH is just stupid for letting cat videos ever get to the internet in the first place. MRTHUMBS, I'd be careful with flashing your URL everywhere, I hear that Ted has been claiming DMCA on the videos since his victory in court (this was reported to me by an employee within PH) Apparently, VA STATE lost in court and Ted was exhonnerated of all charges. He apparently kept all charges quiet. Maybe he had a good attorney, maybe he had validity in his story I have no idea regardless he has beaten the system. The cats were proven to be in PERFECT HEALTHY conditions. And I'm sure even though part of his defense was that the videos weren't made by him that doesn't matter for DMCA. Let a dead horse lie. Chris

03-26-2003, 02:05 AM	#40
sludger Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13	The reason your friends still use PH is because they have had a good experience or they feel some type of loyality to them or that they feel the price is right. PH hosts some very big names in our business. They didn't get them by accident. Now Ted is an asshole but I hardly doubt he is trying to be like HH or trying to stir publicity by being like HH. I think they are two different animals, and I for one do not believe they are lying about the RAID failing, because it does happen. From my sources at PH (both employees and customers) they were able to recover the data from 3 days ago. However if you read their TOS it's very plain they don't guarantee this in the first place. I have friends there on dedicated plans and they never have issues except network outtages which happen. To base your entire opinion of PH on the fact that some fat fuck threw a cat and his virtual RAID went down is absurd. I am in this business to make money and whatever makes me money is what I'm going to do. Now I'll get flamed for this next comment, but I think if Ted got his shit together and stopped making a complete asshole out of himself PH could be a great hosting company, they are apparently going mainstream and not adult oriented at all. National Net is still the best in my book though. Chris

03-26-2003, 02:12 AM	#41
Juggernaut Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 753	After 1 year with PH, I switched to Webair. Mike hooked me up with a deal; just as cheap, only bigger and better... I don't need drama with my hosting. I pay for something, I expect it delivered. We are in this business to make money, if I was getting it for free, I would have nothing to complain about.

03-26-2003, 02:15 AM	#42
sludger Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13	Nobody said people don't switch Jugg but at the same time you switched after having a track record of them. You didn't base it all on one incident. Not that any of it matters, because I do not think PH will accept adult anymore, soon. My sources say that PH is getting out of adult completely. And I can show you 10 of my friends who had horror stories with Webair. They are just the hosting company of the month in my book. Jumping on an oppurtunity. There simply is no one better than National Net in my mind, but I'm sure in manys that same company is PH. Chris