Business SCREENSHOT: PornHero's all-time stats with DDFcash...

[PornHero]

I'm in the sharing mood this morning so I thought I would post some stats...

I love DDFcash. Their solid quality content, consistent updates and great webmaster support have been a real moneymaker for me.

Here is my refcode if you would like to signup for DDFcash under me:
DDF Cash - Possibly the best adult revenue program

if you sign up for DDFcash using my refcode make sure to add me on icq 161550420 or skype [email protected] and I will give you some tips and pointers on what I have learned sells with DDFcash. Ironically, the more people who promote DDFcash actually helps me since I do well in SERPS for their terms

DDF cash switched to NATS at the end of 2009. FYI my total monthly hosting/domains expenses are about $900 for my entire business. Join hits & submit #'s are a bit screwy sometimes, i think its a bot or something...

Here are my all-time DDFcash stats since 2010 - I want to get back to my 2013 numbers!:


These stats are courtesy of PornHero and DDF Cash - Possibly the best adult revenue program

FYI Paul @ DDFcash, if you read this, let's chat soon, I want to get my numbers back up!

Thanks all,

PornHero

[Roald]

Whatever it is you changed in 2014-2015 change it back ;)

[Shap]

Originally Posted by Roald

Whatever it is you changed in 2014-2015 change it back ;)

Agreed. You seemed to have done something that really cranked up the hits you sent but dropped the sales. Maybe less targeted? Less qualified?

[Penny24Seven]

Talk about a nose dive. None of the sites I promote have taken a dive that bad. Yeah the ratios have all gotten worse and did it a year before you in a big way but not like that.

[PornHero]

Originally Posted by Roald

Whatever it is you changed in 2014-2015 change it back ;)

Hey Roald,

My goal is to definitely get back to my 2013 - 2014 numbers!

I certainly got distracted from my business as I outlined in this thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...affiliate.html

In a nutshell I stopped updating, adding to and improving the assets in my business and Google could tell... Google apparently likes to send quality traffic to continuously improving/updated sites...

[Shap]

Originally Posted by Brian837

Talk about a nose dive. None of the sites I promote have taken a dive that bad. Yeah the ratios have all gotten worse and did it a year before you in a big way but not like that.

It's not DDF. That looks like it has gone from real traffic to bot traffic. The traffic from this year looks to be all bot.

[Shap]

Originally Posted by PornHero

Hey Roald,

My goal is to definitely get back to my 2013 - 2014 numbers!

I certainly got distracted from my business as I outlined in this thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...affiliate.html

In a nutshell I stopped updating, adding to and improving the assets in my business and Google could tell... Google apparently likes to send quality traffic to continuously improving/updated sites...

I think in the early 2000s everybody tried to figure out the google SEO formula. Once they figured it out the game was to stay ahead of that. I think now with the amount of data available google (and facebook) are so damn good at knowing what is GOOD content and what is shit that it's in your best interest to provide value for your surfers. The more value you provide the more long term value you will see from it.

[Shap]

Originally Posted by Shap

It's not DDF. That looks like it has gone from real traffic to bot traffic. The traffic from this year looks to be all bot.

Btw I'm not saying PornHero is doing that on purpose. Just saying it looks like something happened to the traffic that it's no longer real human traffic.

[CaptainHowdy]

Keep your chin up, PornHero ...

[xXXtesy10]

program owners bunch of assholes

[Shap]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

program owners bunch of assholes

Why do you say that?

[Zuzana Designs]

Nice to see threads like this to motivate people. Awesome you're offering advice as well PH.

[Google Expert]

Ratios went to shit the last couple of years

Thanks, but i'll pass.

[shake]

Still have recurring sales through them, and I don't think I've sent traffic let alone a sale in over 10 years.

[Spunky]

You can do it!

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by Shap

Why do you say that?

DDF are assholes. no all programs. you just sellout to scumbags.

[fuzebox]

Can you select individual countries from that "Demographic" dropdown?

I think a huge problem with adult affiliates is the webmasters do not understand their geo breakdown, especially when they are comparing today's ratio to last years. This is especially an issue with generic SEO keywords like "porn" and "xxx", which actual english speaking users do not generally use when trying to find something.

[ANAL PASTE]

Good luck.
Im trying to get back as well
Almost same story

[plaster]

The rebills shown in those stats, all years, are bad. For every join to average 1 rebill... low.

[romeo22]

you drop tripple thats suck really

[PornHero]

Originally Posted by plaster

The rebills shown in those stats, all years, are bad. For every join to average 1 rebill... low.

Just an FYI,

Some of those new sales were trials and some were memberships (6 months or 1 year) that were one time charges that didnt' rebill.

I think a more reliable metric would be total income divided by # of sales. That would show you how much $$$ I make per new sale and be able to compare to a PPS program.

Even last year I was averaging $40 per sale over the year with 300 sales. Not bad considering I didnt do any work!

PH

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Can you select individual countries from that "Demographic" dropdown?

I think a huge problem with adult affiliates is the webmasters do not understand their geo breakdown, especially when they are comparing today's ratio to last years. This is especially an issue with generic SEO keywords like "porn" and "xxx", which actual english speaking users do not generally use when trying to find something.

So how would one obtain and better use such data?

[bns666]

nice stats and good luck in the future

[Shap]

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

DDF are assholes. no all programs. you just sellout to scumbags.

I know how you feel. I used to say the exact same thing. All programs were assholes. All programs were cheats. All programs were fuckin scumbags. I know the feeling. Then I started one and saw the ins and outs and saw both sides of the equation. It's definitely not what I thought it was. Happy to discuss anytime with you if you like. Or if you prefer to simply stick to your thoughts and hate on programs and hate on me for selling that's cool too. Just giving you the choice

[astalavistia]

I think main reason is rebills. People have more knowledge about using Virtual Credit Cards instead of credit card. As you know, automatic rebills are not possible with virtual credit cards. So rebills drop year by year.

[Shap]

Originally Posted by astalavistia

I think main reason is rebills. People have more knowledge about using Virtual Credit Cards instead of credit card. As you know, automatic rebills are not possible with virtual credit cards. So rebills drop year by year.

Logically it was bound to happen. Paysites are now close to 20 years old. The older guys are finally wizening up and understand how it works and the younger ones are extremely saavy.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Shap

Logically it was bound to happen. Paysites are now close to 20 years old. The older guys are finally wizening up and understand how it works and the younger ones are extremely saavy.

That's why I think to compete (or really, to tread water) you have to Update and offer new content as often as possible. I accomplish this by both updating existing sites and adding entirely new ones every month or so.

Another way to handle it is to offer longer (and higher priced) one-time only options. But then you better have decent and steady join volume and are emailing the shit out of these members with upsell offers.

[brassmonkey]

op yep the bots click the hell out of links

[plaster]

Originally Posted by PornHero

Just an FYI,

Some of those new sales were trials and some were memberships (6 months or 1 year) that were one time charges that didnt' rebill.

I think a more reliable metric would be total income divided by # of sales. That would show you how much $$$ I make per new sale and be able to compare to a PPS program.

Even last year I was averaging $40 per sale over the year with 300 sales. Not bad considering I didnt do any work!

PH

Yeah, $40 per join is not bad. It could be higher for sure but it's not bad. What's odd is the rebill "ratio" is not much different the past 6 years though when most program rebills went down significantly.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

So how would one obtain and better use such data?

Lots of tools out there. Right now I'm using Voluum for a lot of traffic, before that Imobitrax and Thrive.

At the very least, someone should be running their traffic through a basic php script using the free maxmind database. Send the Tier 1 english speaking to your main offer, and send the rest to where it'll convert best. Make use of Crakmedia's geomatic tool, or the multi-geo catchall script that Revolution Force provides.

As countries like Malaysia come online with broadband and 4G, they skew your SE traffic results to the point that you think you're sending the same hits you were sending 2 years ago at a worse ratio. At the very least you could be making 15 cents a lead redirecting them to a geo-targeted offer.

[PornHero]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Can you select individual countries from that "Demographic" dropdown?

I think a huge problem with adult affiliates is the webmasters do not understand their geo breakdown, especially when they are comparing today's ratio to last years. This is especially an issue with generic SEO keywords like "porn" and "xxx", which actual english speaking users do not generally use when trying to find something.

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Lots of tools out there. Right now I'm using Voluum for a lot of traffic, before that Imobitrax and Thrive.

At the very least, someone should be running their traffic through a basic php script using the free maxmind database. Send the Tier 1 english speaking to your main offer, and send the rest to where it'll convert best. Make use of Crakmedia's geomatic tool, or the multi-geo catchall script that Revolution Force provides.

As countries like Malaysia come online with broadband and 4G, they skew your SE traffic results to the point that you think you're sending the same hits you were sending 2 years ago at a worse ratio. At the very least you could be making 15 cents a lead redirecting them to a geo-targeted offer.

Hi fuzebox,

you make some good points! Gonna keep a closer eye on where geographically my traffic is coming from. thanks for the suggestions :-)

Here is the demographic breakdown of the same all-time stats for DDFcash:

[HoboSexual]

Looking at size of your network I am assuming that up untill 2013 you were living off of search engine traffic then in 2014 you made the decision to purchase traffic? I am wondering if you had not touched sites at all or added bought traffic to the mix what your numbers would have looked like for 2014 and 2015. Did it affect search rankings?

Also who did you make your traffic buys with? just curious

[PornHero]

Originally Posted by HoboSexual

Looking at size of your network I am assuming that up untill 2013 you were living off of search engine traffic then in 2014 you made the decision to purchase traffic? I am wondering if you had not touched sites at all or added bought traffic to the mix what your numbers would have looked like for 2014 and 2015. Did it affect search rankings?

Also who did you make your traffic buys with? just curious

I've never bought traffic. I used to do very well with adsense until they stopped accepting xxx ads a couple years ago.

I started off with tgps, then linklists, and moved to blogs. Never got into tubes. I recently started promoting on twitter. The vast majority of my traffic now comes from search engines and links from porn forums from around the internet.

[Paul Markham]

Another shooter who learnt his trade in offline porn.

[anexsia]

Will sign up under your reflink later on today (having to rebuild a server right now)

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by PornHero

links from porn forums

That may explain the traffic quality drop

It's too bad so much of the traffic in the demographic breakdown is tagged "unknown", if they are going to offer geo stats they should keep their DB updated. If the numbers are even halfway accurate though, I would recommend you figure out how to target UK users

[djroof]

Great work dude and nice stats... yes on 2016 stats are like the 2010 but u have 8 months till the end and I think this year will have good result!

Good luck!!!