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PornHero 04-21-2016 05:16 AM

SCREENSHOT: PornHero's all-time stats with DDFcash...
 
I'm in the sharing mood this morning so I thought I would post some stats...

I love DDFcash. Their solid quality content, consistent updates and great webmaster support have been a real moneymaker for me.

Here is my refcode if you would like to signup for DDFcash under me:
DDF Cash - Possibly the best adult revenue program

if you sign up for DDFcash using my refcode make sure to add me on icq 161550420 or skype [email protected] and I will give you some tips and pointers on what I have learned sells with DDFcash. Ironically, the more people who promote DDFcash actually helps me since I do well in SERPS for their terms :winkwink:

DDF cash switched to NATS at the end of 2009. FYI my total monthly hosting/domains expenses are about $900 for my entire business. Join hits & submit #'s are a bit screwy sometimes, i think its a bot or something...

Here are my all-time DDFcash stats since 2010 - I want to get back to my 2013 numbers!:
http://pornhero.com/ddfcash.jpg

These stats are courtesy of PornHero and DDF Cash - Possibly the best adult revenue program

FYI Paul @ DDFcash, if you read this, let's chat soon, I want to get my numbers back up!

Thanks all,

PornHero

Roald 04-21-2016 05:24 AM

Whatever it is you changed in 2014-2015 change it back ;)

Shap 04-21-2016 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20849822)
Whatever it is you changed in 2014-2015 change it back ;)

Agreed. You seemed to have done something that really cranked up the hits you sent but dropped the sales. Maybe less targeted? Less qualified?

Penny24Seven 04-21-2016 05:30 AM

Talk about a nose dive. None of the sites I promote have taken a dive that bad. Yeah the ratios have all gotten worse and did it a year before you in a big way but not like that.

PornHero 04-21-2016 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20849822)
Whatever it is you changed in 2014-2015 change it back ;)

Hey Roald,

My goal is to definitely get back to my 2013 - 2014 numbers!

I certainly got distracted from my business as I outlined in this thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...affiliate.html

In a nutshell I stopped updating, adding to and improving the assets in my business and Google could tell... Google apparently likes to send quality traffic to continuously improving/updated sites...

Shap 04-21-2016 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 20849831)
Talk about a nose dive. None of the sites I promote have taken a dive that bad. Yeah the ratios have all gotten worse and did it a year before you in a big way but not like that.

It's not DDF. That looks like it has gone from real traffic to bot traffic. The traffic from this year looks to be all bot.

Shap 04-21-2016 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 20849840)
Hey Roald,

My goal is to definitely get back to my 2013 - 2014 numbers!

I certainly got distracted from my business as I outlined in this thread: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...affiliate.html

In a nutshell I stopped updating, adding to and improving the assets in my business and Google could tell... Google apparently likes to send quality traffic to continuously improving/updated sites...

I think in the early 2000s everybody tried to figure out the google SEO formula. Once they figured it out the game was to stay ahead of that. I think now with the amount of data available google (and facebook) are so damn good at knowing what is GOOD content and what is shit that it's in your best interest to provide value for your surfers. The more value you provide the more long term value you will see from it.

Shap 04-21-2016 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20849849)
It's not DDF. That looks like it has gone from real traffic to bot traffic. The traffic from this year looks to be all bot.

Btw I'm not saying PornHero is doing that on purpose. Just saying it looks like something happened to the traffic that it's no longer real human traffic.

CaptainHowdy 04-21-2016 06:23 AM

Keep your chin up, PornHero ...

xXXtesy10 04-21-2016 06:32 AM

program owners bunch of assholes

Shap 04-21-2016 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20849924)
program owners bunch of assholes

Why do you say that?

Zuzana Designs 04-21-2016 06:52 AM

Nice to see threads like this to motivate people. Awesome you're offering advice as well PH. :thumbsup

Google Expert 04-21-2016 06:55 AM

Ratios went to shit the last couple of years

Thanks, but i'll pass.

shake 04-21-2016 07:16 AM

Still have recurring sales through them, and I don't think I've sent traffic let alone a sale in over 10 years.

Spunky 04-21-2016 07:18 AM

You can do it!

xXXtesy10 04-21-2016 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20849948)
Why do you say that?

DDF are assholes. no all programs. you just sellout to scumbags. :2 cents:

fuzebox 04-21-2016 08:55 AM

Can you select individual countries from that "Demographic" dropdown?

I think a huge problem with adult affiliates is the webmasters do not understand their geo breakdown, especially when they are comparing today's ratio to last years. This is especially an issue with generic SEO keywords like "porn" and "xxx", which actual english speaking users do not generally use when trying to find something.

ANAL PASTE 04-21-2016 09:00 AM

Good luck.
Im trying to get back as well :thumbsup
Almost same story :disgust

plaster 04-21-2016 10:34 AM

The rebills shown in those stats, all years, are bad. For every join to average 1 rebill... low.

romeo22 04-21-2016 11:26 AM

you drop tripple thats suck really

PornHero 04-21-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20850443)
The rebills shown in those stats, all years, are bad. For every join to average 1 rebill... low.

Just an FYI,

Some of those new sales were trials and some were memberships (6 months or 1 year) that were one time charges that didnt' rebill.

I think a more reliable metric would be total income divided by # of sales. That would show you how much $$$ I make per new sale and be able to compare to a PPS program.

Even last year I was averaging $40 per sale over the year with 300 sales. Not bad considering I didnt do any work!

PH

The Porn Nerd 04-21-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20850209)
Can you select individual countries from that "Demographic" dropdown?

I think a huge problem with adult affiliates is the webmasters do not understand their geo breakdown, especially when they are comparing today's ratio to last years. This is especially an issue with generic SEO keywords like "porn" and "xxx", which actual english speaking users do not generally use when trying to find something.

So how would one obtain and better use such data?

bns666 04-21-2016 12:41 PM

nice stats and good luck in the future :thumbsup

Shap 04-21-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20850152)
DDF are assholes. no all programs. you just sellout to scumbags. :2 cents:

I know how you feel. I used to say the exact same thing. All programs were assholes. All programs were cheats. All programs were fuckin scumbags. I know the feeling. Then I started one and saw the ins and outs and saw both sides of the equation. It's definitely not what I thought it was. Happy to discuss anytime with you if you like. Or if you prefer to simply stick to your thoughts and hate on programs and hate on me for selling that's cool too. Just giving you the choice :thumbsup

astalavistia 04-21-2016 01:49 PM

I think main reason is rebills. People have more knowledge about using Virtual Credit Cards instead of credit card. As you know, automatic rebills are not possible with virtual credit cards. So rebills drop year by year.

Shap 04-21-2016 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astalavistia (Post 20850887)
I think main reason is rebills. People have more knowledge about using Virtual Credit Cards instead of credit card. As you know, automatic rebills are not possible with virtual credit cards. So rebills drop year by year.

Logically it was bound to happen. Paysites are now close to 20 years old. The older guys are finally wizening up and understand how it works and the younger ones are extremely saavy.

The Porn Nerd 04-21-2016 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20850935)
Logically it was bound to happen. Paysites are now close to 20 years old. The older guys are finally wizening up and understand how it works and the younger ones are extremely saavy.

That's why I think to compete (or really, to tread water) you have to Update and offer new content as often as possible. I accomplish this by both updating existing sites and adding entirely new ones every month or so.

Another way to handle it is to offer longer (and higher priced) one-time only options. But then you better have decent and steady join volume and are emailing the shit out of these members with upsell offers. :)

brassmonkey 04-21-2016 03:15 PM

op yep the bots click the hell out of links

plaster 04-21-2016 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 20850665)
Just an FYI,

Some of those new sales were trials and some were memberships (6 months or 1 year) that were one time charges that didnt' rebill.

I think a more reliable metric would be total income divided by # of sales. That would show you how much $$$ I make per new sale and be able to compare to a PPS program.

Even last year I was averaging $40 per sale over the year with 300 sales. Not bad considering I didnt do any work!

PH

Yeah, $40 per join is not bad. It could be higher for sure but it's not bad. What's odd is the rebill "ratio" is not much different the past 6 years though when most program rebills went down significantly.

fuzebox 04-21-2016 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20850701)
So how would one obtain and better use such data?

Lots of tools out there. Right now I'm using Voluum for a lot of traffic, before that Imobitrax and Thrive.

At the very least, someone should be running their traffic through a basic php script using the free maxmind database. Send the Tier 1 english speaking to your main offer, and send the rest to where it'll convert best. Make use of Crakmedia's geomatic tool, or the multi-geo catchall script that Revolution Force provides.

As countries like Malaysia come online with broadband and 4G, they skew your SE traffic results to the point that you think you're sending the same hits you were sending 2 years ago at a worse ratio. At the very least you could be making 15 cents a lead redirecting them to a geo-targeted offer.

PornHero 04-21-2016 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20850209)
Can you select individual countries from that "Demographic" dropdown?

I think a huge problem with adult affiliates is the webmasters do not understand their geo breakdown, especially when they are comparing today's ratio to last years. This is especially an issue with generic SEO keywords like "porn" and "xxx", which actual english speaking users do not generally use when trying to find something.


Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20851409)
Lots of tools out there. Right now I'm using Voluum for a lot of traffic, before that Imobitrax and Thrive.

At the very least, someone should be running their traffic through a basic php script using the free maxmind database. Send the Tier 1 english speaking to your main offer, and send the rest to where it'll convert best. Make use of Crakmedia's geomatic tool, or the multi-geo catchall script that Revolution Force provides.

As countries like Malaysia come online with broadband and 4G, they skew your SE traffic results to the point that you think you're sending the same hits you were sending 2 years ago at a worse ratio. At the very least you could be making 15 cents a lead redirecting them to a geo-targeted offer.

Hi fuzebox,

you make some good points! Gonna keep a closer eye on where geographically my traffic is coming from. thanks for the suggestions :-)

Here is the demographic breakdown of the same all-time stats for DDFcash:

http://pornhero.com/demographic.png

HoboSexual 04-21-2016 07:07 PM

Looking at size of your network I am assuming that up untill 2013 you were living off of search engine traffic then in 2014 you made the decision to purchase traffic? I am wondering if you had not touched sites at all or added bought traffic to the mix what your numbers would have looked like for 2014 and 2015. Did it affect search rankings?

Also who did you make your traffic buys with? just curious

PornHero 04-22-2016 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoboSexual (Post 20851481)
Looking at size of your network I am assuming that up untill 2013 you were living off of search engine traffic then in 2014 you made the decision to purchase traffic? I am wondering if you had not touched sites at all or added bought traffic to the mix what your numbers would have looked like for 2014 and 2015. Did it affect search rankings?

Also who did you make your traffic buys with? just curious

I've never bought traffic. I used to do very well with adsense until they stopped accepting xxx ads a couple years ago.

I started off with tgps, then linklists, and moved to blogs. Never got into tubes. I recently started promoting on twitter. The vast majority of my traffic now comes from search engines and links from porn forums from around the internet.

:)

Paul Markham 04-22-2016 05:25 AM

Another shooter who learnt his trade in offline porn.

anexsia 04-22-2016 06:41 AM

Will sign up under your reflink later on today (having to rebuild a server right now)

fuzebox 04-22-2016 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 20851940)
links from porn forums

That may explain the traffic quality drop :(

It's too bad so much of the traffic in the demographic breakdown is tagged "unknown", if they are going to offer geo stats they should keep their DB updated. If the numbers are even halfway accurate though, I would recommend you figure out how to target UK users :)

djroof 04-22-2016 07:37 AM

Great work dude and nice stats... yes on 2016 stats are like the 2010 but u have 8 months till the end and I think this year will have good result!

Good luck!!!


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