The fighting at Basra - GoFuckYourself.com

theking · 03-25-2003, 01:29 AM

...may be taking on a new face. I saw a report on CNN tonight that said Basra has to be taken at all costs and taken soon to avoid a humanitarian catastrophy. The report said that Iraqi forces had withdrawn into the city and that British forces would have to enter the city and engage in urban fighting and would be using air support. I think the report also said the Brits would be assisted by Marines.

I take all initial media reports with a grain of salt but this may be true as it has been reported that Basra has been without water for two days. If it is true the casualty count among the forces is going to rise as well as the civilian count.

theking · 03-25-2003, 01:59 AM

It is being reported that the Brits may send in re-enforcements to Basra.

stocktrader23 · 03-25-2003, 02:00 AM

Saw that too.

Oh buhga buhga

mika · 03-25-2003, 02:08 AM

why are you reporting all the cnn news here

I'm pretty much everyone that is actually interested in war news definitely knows what is shown on CNN

There are much more interesting news sources to watch

rooster · 03-25-2003, 02:10 AM

yea its more interesting to watch your russian version of national enquirer sites. fiction is more interesting than fact i suppose

mika · 03-25-2003, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
yea its more interesting to watch your russian version of national enquirer sites. fiction is more interesting than fact i suppose

what is your problem? I dont know those funny russian letters

theking · 03-25-2003, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
why are you reporting all the cnn news here

I'm pretty much everyone that is actually interested in war news definitely knows what is shown on CNN

There are much more interesting news sources to watch

Well...you have my permission. Watch them.

Gman.357 · 03-25-2003, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
why are you reporting all the cnn news here

I'm pretty much everyone that is actually interested in war news definitely knows what is shown on CNN

There are much more interesting news sources to watch

I prefer MSNBC myself.

theking · 03-25-2003, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
why are you reporting all the cnn news here

I'm pretty much everyone that is actually interested in war news definitely knows what is shown on CNN

There are much more interesting news sources to watch

Actually I watch multiple news sources including the BBC and C-Span. I am constantly channel surfing from one to the other.

stocktrader23 · 03-25-2003, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357

I prefer MSNBC myself.

Me too, they sometimes "accidentaly" let the actual news slip 20 minutes or so before CNN. Then they change the story to the same as everyone else for a little while before they say it again.

Gman.357 · 03-25-2003, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Me too, they sometimes "accidentaly" let the actual news slip 20 minutes or so before CNN. Then they change the story to the same as everyone else for a little while before they say it again.

I gained more respect for them when I saw a segment they have where they report on what other world media is showing about the war, including Al Jazeera, and how it's in stark contrast to what we see on our own news most of the time.

They didn't say it was "right or wrong", just showed what some of the 'others' around the world were reporting, and interviewed some people in the Middle East who were watching the Arab news for their war updates. Interesting.

You can say all you want about "American Propeganda" in the news, but that seemed like a fair assessment of things to me.

theking · 03-25-2003, 11:27 PM

Damn...they are still fucking around a Basrah. The media is reporting all kinds of shit taking place there, and how much is true I don't know, but one thing is true and that is if they don't take the city soon there is going to be massive loss of life.

They are going to have to stop fucking around and take the city which will mean coalition casualties as well as civilian casualtites, but by taking lives they will be saving lives. There is not any easy way or clean way to fight a war.

dav555add · 03-25-2003, 11:36 PM

Fuck Basra!!!!
Not one American or British soldier should die for basra!!!
It is time to fight this war militarly and not politically!!!
The iraqi army is using the same tactics as the palestinians, using civilians as shields. Putting armed men in hospitals and schools.
You have to fight on the same field as them, then maybe they'll understand.
Why don't they send in the kuwaiti or saudi army to liberate their brothers???
Get rid of saddam and his governement and let's go home.

directfiesta · 03-25-2003, 11:39 PM

directfiesta · 03-25-2003, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
yea its more interesting to watch your russian version of national enquirer sites. fiction is more interesting than fact i suppose

IRAQ DID IT ... lol

theking · 03-26-2003, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
Fuck Basra!!!!
Not one American or British soldier should die for basra!!!
It is time to fight this war militarly and not politically!!!
The iraqi army is using the same tactics as the palestinians, using civilians as shields. Putting armed men in hospitals and schools.
You have to fight on the same field as them, then maybe they'll understand.
Why don't they send in the kuwaiti or saudi army to liberate their brothers???
Get rid of saddam and his governement and let's go home.

I too detest the micro management of military operations by civilians. I agree with the concept that it should be our civilian leaders that make the call about using our military, but once that call is made shut the fuck up and let the military get the job done. Getting the job done means losing troops and killing civilians, but a swift end ultimately saves lives. If a government is not willing to live with this scenario then do not engage their military forces.

The very worst case of micro management by cilvilians was during the Vietnam conflict and we egaged for nine years when the war could have been ended in three months, using conventional forces. Prolonging the war cost many more lives, for all involved, than a swift end would have.

nuclei · 03-26-2003, 01:24 AM

And I take it that you dont think we should take basra to stop a genocide of it's civilians. We are supposedly there to "liberate" the citizens. Whether true or just a excuse to be there, now that they have said that they *have* to act in a way that shows there is some truth to it. Iraq soldiers earlier turned a number of mortars on the people of basra, their own people. That would be enough reason for me to go in.

theking · 03-26-2003, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
And I take it that you dont think we should take basra to stop a genocide of it's civilians. We are supposedly there to "liberate" the citizens. Whether true or just a excuse to be there, now that they have said that they *have* to act in a way that shows there is some truth to it. Iraq soldiers earlier turned a number of mortars on the people of basra, their own people. That would be enough reason for me to go in.

If you are addressing me you positively have the wrong view of what I posted.

nuclei · 03-26-2003, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

If you are addressing me you positively have the wrong view of what I posted.

Nah, I was actually talking about dav's post =)

rooster · 03-26-2003, 01:33 AM

I saw the food aid those people are getting on tv. They will be eating better than me.

Four_DuBz · 03-26-2003, 03:02 AM

You can check out the body counts here :

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

jas1552 · 03-26-2003, 03:16 AM

Anyone know precisely what kind of and how many coalition troops are in Iraq? In terms of divisions and brigades etc.
Except for the ones that were supposed to go in through turkey have all the grounds troops in the region gone in yet?

DJRCyberAVS · 03-26-2003, 04:14 AM

Did you see the Royal Marines on BBCNews24 handing out the food and water supplies, and the Royal Marine was speaking in arabic (I think) to the people...

Did you hear what he then said to the reporter,... the first thing the Iraqis asked for were cigarettes - not food and water, LOL....

flashfreak · 03-26-2003, 04:17 AM

5.000 iraqis are returning from Iordania to Iraq, to fight against the coallition... nobody expected that.... it's on the news .
the war will be long.. way longer than Bush expected....

Gman.357 · 03-26-2003, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
5.000 iraqis are returning from Iordania to Iraq, to fight against the coallition... nobody expected that.... it's on the news .
the war will be long.. way longer than Bush expected....

Bush said all along the war was going to be long. It's our citizens who think otherwise.

directfiesta · 03-26-2003, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357

Bush said all along the war was going to be long. It's our citizens who think otherwise.

OH shit. Another 2 hours to find the tape, make a clip of Bush saying the contrary ...

and what's the point? you won't even watch it, or call it "doctored", so have a nice life with your war .

Back from Florida 2 weeks ago... Next trips: Cuba, Mexico, France. Italy, Amsterdam.... all on non-us airlines for my safety....

jas1552 · 03-26-2003, 09:35 AM

I've heard him say stuff like our military will move swiftly but never this war won't last long.

03-25-2003, 01:29 AM	#1
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	The fighting at Basra ...may be taking on a new face. I saw a report on CNN tonight that said Basra has to be taken at all costs and taken soon to avoid a humanitarian catastrophy. The report said that Iraqi forces had withdrawn into the city and that British forces would have to enter the city and engage in urban fighting and would be using air support. I think the report also said the Brits would be assisted by Marines. I take all initial media reports with a grain of salt but this may be true as it has been reported that Basra has been without water for two days. If it is true the casualty count among the forces is going to rise as well as the civilian count. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

03-25-2003, 01:59 AM	#2
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	It is being reported that the Brits may send in re-enforcements to Basra. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

03-25-2003, 02:00 AM	#3
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Saw that too. Oh buhga buhga __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

03-25-2003, 11:27 PM	#12
theking Nice Kitty Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The good old USA!!! Posts: 21,053	Damn...they are still fucking around a Basrah. The media is reporting all kinds of shit taking place there, and how much is true I don't know, but one thing is true and that is if they don't take the city soon there is going to be massive loss of life. They are going to have to stop fucking around and take the city which will mean coalition casualties as well as civilian casualtites, but by taking lives they will be saving lives. There is not any easy way or clean way to fight a war. __________________ When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me! FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

03-25-2003, 11:36 PM	#13
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	Fuck Basra!!!! Not one American or British soldier should die for basra!!! It is time to fight this war militarly and not politically!!! The iraqi army is using the same tactics as the palestinians, using civilians as shields. Putting armed men in hospitals and schools. You have to fight on the same field as them, then maybe they'll understand. Why don't they send in the kuwaiti or saudi army to liberate their brothers??? Get rid of saddam and his governement and let's go home. __________________ ...

03-25-2003, 02:08 AM	#4
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	why are you reporting all the cnn news here I'm pretty much everyone that is actually interested in war news definitely knows what is shown on CNN There are much more interesting news sources to watch

03-25-2003, 02:10 AM	#5
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	yea its more interesting to watch your russian version of national enquirer sites. fiction is more interesting than fact i suppose

03-25-2003, 11:39 PM	#14
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,676	__________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

03-26-2003, 01:24 AM	#17
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	And I take it that you dont think we should take basra to stop a genocide of it's civilians. We are supposedly there to "liberate" the citizens. Whether true or just a excuse to be there, now that they have said that they have to act in a way that shows there is some truth to it. Iraq soldiers earlier turned a number of mortars on the people of basra, their own people. That would be enough reason for me to go in. __________________ The next generation of SEO

03-26-2003, 01:33 AM	#20
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	I saw the food aid those people are getting on tv. They will be eating better than me.

03-26-2003, 03:02 AM	#21
Four_DuBz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind you.... Posts: 27	You can check out the body counts here : http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

03-26-2003, 03:16 AM	#22
jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	Anyone know precisely what kind of and how many coalition troops are in Iraq? In terms of divisions and brigades etc. Except for the ones that were supposed to go in through turkey have all the grounds troops in the region gone in yet?

03-26-2003, 04:14 AM	#23
DJRCyberAVS Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WeebleLand Posts: 493	Did you see the Royal Marines on BBCNews24 handing out the food and water supplies, and the Royal Marine was speaking in arabic (I think) to the people... Did you hear what he then said to the reporter,... the first thing the Iraqis asked for were cigarettes - not food and water, LOL....

03-26-2003, 04:17 AM	#24
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	5.000 iraqis are returning from Iordania to Iraq, to fight against the coallition... nobody expected that.... it's on the news . the war will be long.. way longer than Bush expected.... __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

03-26-2003, 09:35 AM	#27
jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	I've heard him say stuff like our military will move swiftly but never this war won't last long.