does anybody need UN anymore

[Nydahl]

I think nobody need UN any longer - you can do whatever you want - if you have a power like USA for example.
thats nothing against USA I just think that UN is worthless now

[Sly_RJ]

What do you mean "anymore"?

[FATPad]

The UN has been worthless for a while.

Appointing Libya to the Human Rights commission.

Appointing Iraq to the Committee On Disarmament.

Watching Iraq dick around for 16 Resolutions over the course of 12 years and not doing a single thing.

Who in their right mind could take that group seriously after just those three things?

[Babaganoosh]

UN has been worthless for a long time. If they were doing their job for the last 12 years, we wouldn't be at war right now.

[Simon-interaid]

Yes I completely agree. IF the top nations in the UN aren't going to follow the rules then the hell with the UN.



China can now go grab Taiwan and there is not a damn thing UN can do about it.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Simon-interaid
China can now go grab Taiwan and there is not a damn thing UN can do about it.

So what exactly would the UN have done about it previously?

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
UN has been worthless for a long time. If they were doing their job for the last 12 years, we wouldn't be at war right now.

also probably spent tons of money to work

[XSpider]

What age are you? 12? 15 at most!
I don't think you even know how the UN was brought to life and what it's MAIN purpose is......
The UN is active in more then this one fucking example... rebuild contries, economic, humanitarian orginasitions, etc..
You think UN is all about war? You must be the a very dumb fuck, get your facts straigth and read some history man. I'm NOT against the US or the US led war upthere but i AM against fuckers like you that think that the US is the only "military power" and orginasation that is needed in the world.

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by XSpider
What age are you? 12? 15 at most!
I don't think you even know how the UN was brought to life and what it's MAIN purpose is......
The UN is active in more then this one fucking example... rebuild contries, economic, humanitarian orginasitions, etc..
You think UN is all about war? You must be the a very dumb fuck, get your facts straigth and read some history man. I'm NOT against the US or the US led war upthere but i AM against fuckers like you that think that the US is the only "military power" and orginasation that is needed in the world.

I am 29 - I just think that stop the war is the main purpose of UN - thats why nations are united into one organisation right?

[NetRodent]

Originally posted by XSpider
What age are you? 12? 15 at most!
I don't think you even know how the UN was brought to life and what it's MAIN purpose is......
The UN is active in more then this one fucking example... rebuild contries, economic, humanitarian orginasitions, etc..
You think UN is all about war? You must be the a very dumb fuck, get your facts straigth and read some history man. I'm NOT against the US or the US led war upthere but i AM against fuckers like you that think that the US is the only "military power" and orginasation that is needed in the world.

Actually the UN was intended to be mainly concerned with wars. Read the preamble of the UN charter...

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and

to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and

to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,


AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and

to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and

to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and

to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,


HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS
Accordingly, our respective Governments, through representatives assembled in the city of San Francisco, who have exhibited their full powers found to be in good and due form, have agreed to the present Charter of the United Nations and do hereby establish an international organization to be known as the United Nations.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by XSpider
What age are you? 12? 15 at most!
I don't think you even know how the UN was brought to life and what it's MAIN purpose is......
The UN is active in more then this one fucking example... rebuild contries, economic, humanitarian orginasitions, etc..
You think UN is all about war? You must be the a very dumb fuck, get your facts straigth and read some history man. I'm NOT against the US or the US led war upthere but i AM against fuckers like you that think that the US is the only "military power" and orginasation that is needed in the world.

Time to do a little fact-finding of your own I would say. Do a little reading and tell me that the UN hasn't become utterly useless oaver the last decade or so.

[XSpider]

Originally posted by Nydahl

I am 29 - I just think that stop the war is the main purpose of UN - thats why nations are united into one organisation right?

Why do people think the UN is only involved in making this kind of decisions? The UN does much more then that but that just doesn't hit the media. I for one agree that sadam must go, he is a danger to many people, if he can't go in peace then burn his ass out BUT that doesn't mean the UN is useless... for god's sake, stop thinking that over this war the US is the only thing in the world right now. The UN SHOULDhave agreed or put up a greater effort to not let it come to this BUT i still think the UN very much needed in this world where people die because they don't have anything to eat.

[JeremySF]

Originally posted by XSpider
What age are you? 12? 15 at most!
I don't think you even know how the UN was brought to life and what it's MAIN purpose is......
The UN is active in more then this one fucking example... rebuild contries, economic, humanitarian orginasitions, etc..
You think UN is all about war? You must be the a very dumb fuck, get your facts straigth and read some history man. I'm NOT against the US or the US led war upthere but i AM against fuckers like you that think that the US is the only "military power" and orginasation that is needed in the world.

Is that all you do is attack anyone who doesn't agree with you? That's really intelligent.


Anyways, the UN does serve a purpose. The UN brings relief and medication to the third world. They assist in rebuilding efforts, etc. But, let's be perfectly honest. They've never been an effective peace keeping entity. Does the Congo, Rwanda, Kosovo, Sri Lanka, Cote D'Ivorie, etc. mean anything to you?

They made themselves irrelevant.

[JeremySF]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


Time to do a little fact-finding of your own I would say. Do a little reading and tell me that the UN hasn't become utterly useless oaver the last decade or so.

To be fair A&H, the UN may be useless when it comes to many things. They have no problem disarming civilian populations, but when it comes to a menace like Saddam, that's another story.

But, they do serve a purpose when it comes to disaster relief, bringing medication to the third world, rebuilding communities, etc. That's what they're good at, and that's what they're roll should be limited to.

[XSpider]

Originally posted by JeremySF



Is that all you do is attack anyone who doesn't agree with you? That's really intelligent.


Anyways, the UN does serve a purpose. The UN brings relief and medication to the third world. They assist in rebuilding efforts, etc. But, let's be perfectly honest. They've never been an effective peace keeping entity. Does the Congo, Rwanda, Kosovo, Sri Lanka, Cote D'Ivorie, etc. mean anything to you?

They made themselves irrelevant.

Yes, Congo, Rwanda, Kosovo, Sri Lanka, Cote D'Ivorie, etc. mean anything to me but relief and medication to the third world. They assist in rebuilding efforts, etc also means something to me. I agree with the US (as is stated above). But i know that we need the UN for other things, things that are not related to war.
And yes, maybe i cam on to strong at this post but it amazes me how some people are very short sighted and think the UN is useless now and the US is the super power of the world.... maybe in this case it is but then again, in other fields the UN is very usefull.

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by JeremySF



Is that all you do is attack anyone who doesn't agree with you? That's really intelligent.


Anyways, the UN does serve a purpose. The UN brings relief and medication to the third world. They assist in rebuilding efforts, etc. But, let's be perfectly honest. They've never been an effective peace keeping entity. Does the Congo, Rwanda, Kosovo, Sri Lanka, Cote D'Ivorie, etc. mean anything to you?

They made themselves irrelevant.

to be honest I have to agree - totaly forgot about that aid etc things
so let the Un live

[Giorgio_Xo]

France and Russia need the United Nations to remind themselves that at one point in history they could actually make history.

[rooster]

yea, they did a great job of preventing 800,000 somalians from being slaughtered

[foreverjason]

Politically no, the veto system does not work.

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
France and Russia need the United Nations to remind themselves that at one point in history they could actually make history.

maybe it wasn't the last try of Russia man
btw I am not from Russia ok?

[XSpider]

Originally posted by NetRodent
Actually the UN was intended to be mainly concerned with wars. Read the preamble of the UN charter...

to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples

Did you skip this part? It's not the main part but it iS inthere and they do alot of effort for it, and they should keep existing and keep doing it.