Poured in place means just that... it's poured in the place it remains. That is how the thing would have to be constructed. So that means the forms are vertical, then concrete poured down into them.

Absolutely no tilt up.

You need the rebar sticking out of the footing, into the wall, to get the moment connection into the footing.

They can easily form 12 foot sections (high) and have a cold joint. Wind, seismic, doesn't matter, the wall is self supporting and stands up because of the footing. Which is similar to a spread footing, just wider and with 2 layers of structural reinforcement, not reinforcement simply for crack control. And every 200 feet or so there needs to be a complete and total isolation joint.

Pre-fabbed wall panels have plates that are connected. This connection is at the very, very bottom of the wall. You couldn't get the moment connection so then you would have to create a lot of other support so it stands. These walls work when you have a floor and a ceiling... pin, pin connection. No moment connection required.

Bla bla bla

A giant wall is a gigantic idiot idea /thread

@_Richard_ LOL easy access roads for illegals :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I like the minefield idea -- low maintenance border control. The coyotes can eat up the pieces :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In my opinion the wall isn't an "idiot" idea...it's an anti-American idea.

And it's not Trump's idea. It was already funded and passed by Congress years ago, they just never actually built it.

Walls are what the Soviet Union did. It's what Ronald Reagan called on Gorbachev to "tear down this wall".

The only problem on our border is the one being caused by the Federal Govt. "War on Drugs". Stop that...there won't be any problems.

Robbie you live pretty far from the border. I have recently been living in El Paso Texas, right on the border next to Mexico's most violent city. While I agree with your comments about the US drug policy I have to disagree on the border.

Without a wall/barrier of some sort the streets would be full of "opportunists" looking for a way to beg/borrow/steal. Imagine people walking and driving thru your neighborhood. Would you be happy? Feel safe? Knowing these illegals are looking to YOU for survival.


Immigration discussions are great when they are hypothetical because one never comes into direct contact with them. Trust me, seeing a gardner, waiter, student etc, working up north is worlds away from living in a border city. And legal drugs just might make it worse as the money supply south of the border would dry up creating even more poverty.


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Just so I know, you pulled that 19' to 7' atop 10' of cimpacted gravel completely out of your ass.... right?

http://writehere.com/media/photos/op...7e3178384eb3f8

fucking asshat

That wall is still standing for over 1000 years.

My "joke wall" will stand for 3000 years maybe LMAO.

Talking about this wall is like talking about the aliens that just landed on the White House lawn, or some other fable.

Plug one leak there will be another along the border.
Make it a 20 year felony to knowingly? hire an illegal alien.
I don't know what law enforcement could legally do with captured illegals committing crimes that they are not currently doing under our constitutional restraints on US Territory.

There could be a database to verify social security numbers collected on W-2 forms for employment required to be used by all employers -- you would need "license" to work in essence.
The problem is the cash economy that working illegal aliens get paid from.
One huge source of payment to illegal workers is in cash payment and evasion of US employment laws. Casual labor is the big problem. Building walls will not fix that.

We do same same shitty job policing all criminal activities in this country for as long as I can remember. Imprisoning illegal alien criminals costs money and catch and release costs money too as they just come back.

You are just trading one lose-lose situation with another lose-lose with this ridiculous "border wall of Trump".

god damned illegal aliens stealin' yer jeeeerbs :mad:

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/35/354a83...6d0011ef0a.jpg

You know this isn't something that Trump came up with right?

It's a fence that has been passed and funded by Congress for the past ten years...but they simply never actually have DONE it.

With Senate Vote, Congress Passes Border Fence Bill

Priceless ...

This and make the prisoners who we pay to sit around all day build it.

Not bad. Would be better set to music though.

It will be more costly than The Great Wall of china.

No it doesnt.. I also mentioned the cost of upkeep to the wall and you just assume that it will stop 100% of them. It wont, it likely won't stop 10%.

When he says billions and billions, he's giving himself enough margin for error :winkwink:

Google keeps prompting me to watch him everytime I search for Trump, so no.

"the Wall" is just -- -as someone said earlier -- verbal diarrhea from Trump's face hole.

Of course he didn't come up with the idea....but he's sure as fuck using it to pander to xenophobic morons who react with their lizard brains to EVERYTHING. Your reasons for loving Trump are more nuanced and intelligent...of course. HAHA

Then vote for people with real solutions. Not people selling magic beans.

#101 retarded things trump says...

lol why the fuck does he think mexico would pay a single cent for that wall? our country literally keeps their economy afloat with all the illegal aliens sending cash they made in the states back home to mexico.

john oliver, trevor noah, cnn anchors, fox anchors etc - their strings are all getting pulled by the same people.

'real world', you mean the anti trump media? Pretty sad if that's your real world.

a solution is as real as magic beans...

You mean established party members who's only interest is their party? More of the same old shit?

No. I mean the non-party people. People with real plans, not one's bribing you and spewing out the time old rhetoric.

Like Trump. His rhetoric on taxes, defence, healthcare, etc. Heard it all before.

Those people have never been able to run in a race decided by big money, so that's a utopia. It doesn't exist sadly.

For many people, someone who goes against the establishment is enough. Including me, if i was an American i would vote for Trump. Americans will never get a chance anytime soon to give the corrupt Washington slave masters a big 'fuck you'. This is the only chance they'll get in the past 100 years, and the coming decades.

If you're an American and you don't grab this chance with both hands, you deserve the establishments' cock up your ass for the rest of your life. Those small minded idiots need to wake the fuck up to the bigger picture.