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Old 03-18-2016, 03:11 PM   #51
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Trump attracts reactionary goon voters as the main support base, like the Nazis did - it's as simple as that. Many various socialists were around in the Weimer Republic, but none were like the Nazi brand.
Regarding 'no facts made' - in a million years you'd refuse to accept any facts - you enjoy the idea your mind is made up already. That's the way most Trump-style fans and even neo-Liberals are.
lol so anyone who likes Trump is now a nazi? Dude you're one of the worst sophists I've ever come across
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Old 03-18-2016, 03:12 PM   #52
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yes because I have been to many muslim countries and you have not...

shariah governs 1/4 of man kind whether you realise this or not...if you think it is anything evil then its very amusing indeed...its just a name for a moral code...

a shariah judge is like a family counselor - law advisor...he is not an evil figure...under shariah law when a man beats a woman, the shariah judge separates them and talks to both parties to get the true story if he can, then he talks to the mans family and urges them to take part in this, they try to find a peaceful solution, if the man beat the women severely he will call the police or, if the law is governed totally by shariah, he will have him arrested...it does not promote violence against women in any way (excluding saudi yemen and somalia)...they try to save the marriage because muslim countries are poor and if there are kids and they live in a dessert shithole, its important to try to keep them together for the sake of the children...your pea brain mind could probably not imagine their situation,an american woman would just get job...in the dessert there are little jobs to be had etc...

yes you will find horror stories about shariah, like you will find US police selling drugs and raping women and shooting minorites like you will find cahtolic priests butt fucking young boys as an institution...there is always some inbreed backwards fuck somewhere...

but in 99.9% of the time = you are a dumb ignorant been-nowhere-seen-nothing fuck just like dynamo and jhonnyclips...the vast majority of muslims are good and kind people...

now go eat a bag of dicks LOL



its a moral code...MORAL...1/4 of mankind agrees with it...1.600.000.000 people think its ok....
You can keep your sharia law...I want NOTHING to do with it
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lol so anyone who likes Trump is now a nazi? Dude you're one of the worst sophists I've ever come across
I actually said that Trump's main support base are reactionary goon voters.
But typical of a Trump fan to see something else besides a clear fact.
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I actually said that Trump's main support base are reactionary goon voters.
But typical of a Trump fan to see something else besides a clear fact.
You THINK Trump's main support base are reactionary good voters. That is your biased, bigoted opinion, which is far from the truth
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Trump drinks water and so did Hitler!

Trump = Hitler!
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lol so anyone who likes Trump is now a nazi? Dude you're one of the worst sophists I've ever come across
I forgot to add something more compelling you're loving hearing I know ; the Nazis attracted enough of a reactionary goon base to vote for them; but in fact only 12% of Germans ever became actual Nazi party members..... just saying; Trump's not looking for racists- just enough reactionary goon support.
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I forgot to add something more compelling you're loving hearing I know ; the Nazis attracted enough of a reactionary goon base to vote for them; but in fact only 12% of Germans ever became actual Nazi party members..... just saying; Trump's not looking for racists- just enough reactionary goon support.
The only racists I see are Bernie and Hillary supporters
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The only racists I see are Bernie and Hillary supporters
It's weirdly entertaining seeing what Trump's fan base like to see as opposed to reality.
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It's weirdly entertaining seeing what Trump's fan base like to see as opposed to reality.
It's weirdly entertaining seeing what the anti- Trump fan base like to see as opposed to reality
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You can keep your sharia law...I want NOTHING to do with it
I did not offer it to you LOL I was just pointing out that the media needed to sell you a story and the truth does not sell...
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I did not offer it to you LOL I was just pointing out that the media needed to sell you a story and the truth does not sell...
Muslims want sharia law here and I don't want muslims or sharia law
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you do not even know any muslims LOL
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you do not even know any muslims LOL
And i like to keep it that way
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my grandfather did not want to know any germans
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So he said that a lot of illegals are criminals (they ALL are) and studies have shown that up to 80% of women coming across the border are raped by the men that bring them

Islam? Not a race (50% of muslims in the USA want sharia law in the USA! Wake up, people)

I keep hearing and reading stories about how racist Trump is. Has he EVER said ANYTHING or more importantly done anything that is racist?

Seriously...ONE example please
it's a racial affront when trump wakes up in the morning
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one guy says, "I'm right, you're wrong."
other guy says, "I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."

at this point, even if someone has learned something, 99% of the time, they won't admit if because they feel that might invalidate everything they have said, and of course they would be too proud to let that happen.

back to the argument...

one guy says, "You're stupid."
other guy says, "You're stupid."
first guy.....
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So Trump has not said or done a single racist thing

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Muslims want sharia law here and I don't want muslims or sharia law
Nobody is coming for your guns and there will never be sharia law here.

Next.
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Nobody is coming for your guns and there will never be sharia law here.

Next.
Good. Keep it that way.
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yes because I have been to many muslim countries and you have not...

shariah governs 1/4 of man kind whether you realise this or not...if you think it is anything evil then its very amusing indeed...its just a name for a moral code...

a shariah judge is like a family counselor - law advisor...he is not an evil figure...under shariah law when a man beats a woman, the shariah judge separates them and talks to both parties to get the true story if he can, then he talks to the mans family and urges them to take part in this, they try to find a peaceful solution, if the man beat the women severely he will call the police or, if the law is governed totally by shariah, he will have him arrested...it does not promote violence against women in any way (excluding saudi yemen and somalia)...they try to save the marriage because muslim countries are poor and if there are kids and they live in a dessert shithole, its important to try to keep them together for the sake of the children...your pea brain mind could probably not imagine their situation,an american woman would just get a job...in the dessert there are little jobs to be had etc...

yes you will find horror stories about shariah, like you will find US police selling drugs and raping women and shooting minorites like you will find cahtolic priests butt fucking young boys as an institution...there is always some inbreed backwards fuck somewhere...

but in 99.9% of the time = you are a dumb ignorant been-nowhere-seen-nothing fuck just like dynamo and jhonnyclips...the vast majority of muslims are good and kind people...

now go eat a bag of dicks LOL

Let's hope the US adopts sharia law... maybe we can be a great muslim country like Afganastan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan etc
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Let's hope the US adopts sharia law... maybe we can be a great muslim country like Afganastan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan etc
Make America Muslim Again!
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Boy oh boy we might need multiple threads for all the information, facts and proof that the anti Trump crowd is bringing!
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Let's hope the US adopts sharia law... maybe we can be a great muslim country like Afganastan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan etc
it is just a name...shariah...you are an imbecile who does not understand that the media needs to sell you a story and the truth is boring and will not sell as well: "its just a moral code, does not promote violence, is surprisingly humane, may be strange, is abused in just a few countries but is used by 1/4 of humanity...go home folks nothing to see here"

you are a been-nowhere-know-nothing

but you are all very amusing...I really mean this
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If Trump really was a bigot, he wouldn;t have said this: "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.?

And since Trump is not a bigot, he didn't say it
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one guy says, "I'm right, you're wrong."
other guy says, "I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."

at this point, even if someone has learned something, 99% of the time, they won't admit if because they feel that might invalidate everything they have said, and of course they would be too proud to let that happen.
.....

That's the real valid point really..... one should remember that there's no winning an argument with right wing hatemongers like Clipclips. Exposing their lunacy with facts for others watching and to learn from is the best option.
Haters are anti-social xenophobes who lack the common human ability of trying to get along with others. They know they are the small-minded outsiders in society but try to deflect that stigma by living in delusion in the gross idea that they're the misunderstood knights of the West - much like ISIS claim they are the knights of Muslims.

That's about right too sadly; 99% of hatemongers will never accept facts showing how void their manufactured gibberish is. 1% of haters seeing the dialogue and becoming normal again as a result is a victory though...... the other 99% of haters are simply happy hating - because they have low self esteem and want to persecute others to feel 'better'.
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I channel surfed to Fox News tonight. Megyn Kelly's show was on.

She had a black guy named Jamal who was the leader of the group in Chicago. She also had Herman Cain, and the black guy who was the leader of the rioters in Ferguson.

Herman Cain explained to these two young men that they were basically being used by the left wing.

Both men kept calling Trump racist.

So Megyn (who has no love for Trump) asked Jamal what Trump had said that was racist against blacks.

First he inaccurately said that David Duke and the KKK had endorsed Trump.
David Duke left the KKK 30 years ago because he thinks they are "idiots" (that's Duke's own words)...also neither Duke nor the KKK have officially endorsed Trump.

Then he said... "When we heard Donald Trump say 'Make America White Again' that was all we needed to know"

Megyn Kelly almost jumped out of her seat in disbelief and quickly informed this low information idiot that "NO" Donald Trump has NEVER said that!

But folks...that is what a lot of these ignorant protestors think. It's astounding.

Then she talked to the young man who was the leader of the Ferguson riots. He started slamming Trump as well.
So she asked him if he thought that people would have a hard time taking him seriously when his group was chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" at the cops in Ferguson during the riot.

This guy said....and I am quoting this...that he couldn't help what his people were chanting during a "playful moment" with the police!
Megyn Kelly was stunned and informed him that she didn't think the police officers were in a "playful" mood as those same people were burning the town down.

It was an incredible look into the minds of the protestors/Hillary Clinton supporters.

They are ignorant of the facts and totally misinformed intentionally by the Democrat Party.

They are the true hatemongers and race baiters.
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That's the real valid point really..... one should remember that there's no winning an argument with right wing hatemongers like Clipclips. Exposing their lunacy with facts for others watching and to learn from is the best option.
Haters are anti-social xenophobes who lack the common human ability of trying to get along with others. They know they are the small-minded outsiders in society but try to deflect that stigma by living in delusion in the gross idea that they're the misunderstood knights of the West - much like ISIS claim they are the knights of Muslims.

That's about right too sadly; 99% of hatemongers will never accept facts showing how void their manufactured gibberish is. 1% of haters seeing the dialogue and becoming normal again as a result is a victory though...... the other 99% of haters are simply happy hating - because they have low self esteem and want to persecute others to feel 'better'.
I've asked you to provide examples and you've failed
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I channel surfed to Fox News tonight. Megyn Kelly's show was on.

She had a black guy named Jamal who was the leader of the group in Chicago. She also had Herman Cain, and the black guy who was the leader of the rioters in Ferguson.

Herman Cain explained to these two young men that they were basically being used by the left wing.

Both men kept calling Trump racist.

So Megyn (who has no love for Trump) asked Jamal what Trump had said that was racist against blacks.

First he inaccurately said that David Duke and the KKK had endorsed Trump.
David Duke left the KKK 30 years ago because he thinks they are "idiots" (that's Duke's own words)...also neither Duke nor the KKK have officially endorsed Trump.

Then he said... "When we heard Donald Trump say 'Make America White Again' that was all we needed to know"

Megyn Kelly almost jumped out of her seat in disbelief and quickly informed this low information idiot that "NO" Donald Trump has NEVER said that!

But folks...that is what a lot of these ignorant protestors think. It's astounding.

Then she talked to the young man who was the leader of the Ferguson riots. He started slamming Trump as well.
So she asked him if he thought that people would have a hard time taking him seriously when his group was chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" at the cops in Ferguson during the riot.

This guy said....and I am quoting this...that he couldn't help what his people were chanting during a "playful moment" with the police!
Megyn Kelly was stunned and informed him that she didn't think the police officers were in a "playful" mood as those same people were burning the town down.

It was an incredible look into the minds of the protestors/Hillary Clinton supporters.

They are ignorant of the facts and totally misinformed intentionally by the Democrat Party.

They are the true hatemongers and race baiters.
Yea it's amazing. These people are the enemy of a free and peaceful society. Trump has said nothing or done nothing that is racist. The mainstream media has literally made everything up out of thin air
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So what exactly has Trump said or done that is so "crazy"?

Let's build a wall and enforce immigration laws = common sense
Stop getting fleeced by bad trade deals = common sense
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Barry how is he a bigot?

I actually watch his speeches. The majority of the speeches are about trade with other countries and also about how all of our politicians are bought and paid for by big corporations.

He also will spend about 2 or 3 minutes on illegal immigration and the problems of terrorism from Muslims.

Can you tell me how any of that is bigoted?

I just keep hearing the guys like Anderson Cooper, Van Jones, and John King types repeating it over and over without actually specifying it.
Oh yeah, they will say things like "Trump called Mexican's rapists" without pointing out that he was saying that the govt. of Mexico was encouraging people to cross the border illegally and in his mind they were sending their criminals in order to get rid of them.

Funny how Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo, John King and the like always make sure to "dig down" on the comments that Obama or Hillary make that sound bad...but they suddenly lose their ability to do that on Trump and simply cherry pick the quote with no context to it.
The media will continue it's assault for the next 8 years
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He made them look like fools by winning and they're not going to forget it.
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He made them look like fools by winning and they're not going to forget it.
I still can't get over the Huffington post having Hillary at 98.1% chance at most it should have been 60-40...more like 50-50
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one guy says, "I'm right, you're wrong."
other guy says, "I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
first guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."
second guy says, "No, I'm right, you're wrong."

at this point, even if someone has learned something, 99% of the time, they won't admit if because they feel that might invalidate everything they have said, and of course they would be too proud to let that happen.

back to the argument...

one guy says, "You're stupid."
other guy says, "You're stupid."
first guy.....
well said - and the problem is that this 2 guys are not talking about the REAL problem - they talking about something what they THINK it is the reason for the problem.

i found today a very good written article what is not pro and not contra trump but what describes the problems WHY someone like trump could come up.

i think that hits the nail more than all discussion about immigrants and walls.

HERE IT IS
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:11 PM   #85
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I still can't get over the Huffington post having Hillary at 98.1% chance at most it should have been 60-40...more like 50-50
i told you already yesterday in another thread that you can be HAPPY that they have published these figures. because NO ONE believed that trump will win because of that and the voters who would have prevented him have simply stayed at home therefore. Believe me, THAT will DEFINITELY not happen again in the 2018 election. I assume that you can count with 65% to 75% voter turnout.
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:13 PM   #86
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i told you already yesterday in another thread that you can be HAPPY that they have published these figures. because NO ONE believed that trump will win because of that and the voters who would have prevented him have simply stayed at home therefore. Believe me, THAT will DEFINITELY not happen again in the 2018 election. I assume that you can count with 65% to 75% voter turnout.
98.1% and you people ate it up and believed it
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Old 02-20-2017, 04:51 PM   #87
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i told you already yesterday in another thread that you can be HAPPY that they have published these figures. because NO ONE believed that trump will win because of that and the voters who would have prevented him have simply stayed at home therefore. Believe me, THAT will DEFINITELY not happen again in the 2018 election. I assume that you can count with 65% to 75% voter turnout.
so all kinds of people stayed home, & they wont again huh?

do you think perhaps you are simply wishful thinking. there is the possibility that what you are seeing is nothing more than hilary voters, simply being loud. Why would a good voter stay home & not vote for the first woman president? with trump threatening her rights?

i would suggest you get real & recognize everyone that wanted to vote, did vote. & there were plenty of trump votes that didnt bother because their state is so blue...

i guess you are also clueless that all the important senate races are in the midwest in 2018. hardly a good place for liberal PC to make a comeback.

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Old 02-21-2017, 12:43 AM   #88
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so all kinds of people stayed home, & they wont again huh?
you can be sure that they will not - and they would not if there wouldnīt have been this numbers around what made everyone sure that trump will not win.

IF this 70% would be afraid that trump will not win - they would have gone, or not?

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do you think perhaps you are simply wishful thinking. there is the possibility that what you are seeing is nothing more than hilary voters, simply being loud. Why would a good voter stay home & not vote for the first woman president? with trump threatening her rights?
again because THEY THOUGHT she will win anyway....

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i would suggest you get real & recognize everyone that wanted to vote, did vote. & there were plenty of trump votes that didnt bother because their state is so blue...
what you mean "plenty of voters" ???? more than 40% did NOT vote and from your "plenty" the majority voted for hillary.
do you really think that this over 40% would stay at home when they wanted trump to win and hear everywhere that he have no chance?
you are a dreamer.

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i guess you are also clueless that all the important senate races are in the midwest in 2018. hardly a good place for liberal PC to make a comeback.
if they only get more than before it is enough - because republicans will see than that they do not have a chance in the next president elections and they will help the democrats on any distrust vote to kick him out.

there are A LOT of republicans what disagree with him so donīt be too sure that they will back him up.
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:31 AM   #89
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I'd say calling people racists and bigots, calling people who agree with trumps policies reactionary goon voters, rioting, calling people ignorant and stupid, supporting illegal immigration, calling all Americans illegal immigrants and many other things are what lost the democrats the vote. Why would people support you when you call them idiots? Want to boost immigration? Boost industry. Then you will be needing immigrants to fill the job surplus.
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Then he said... "When we heard Donald Trump say 'Make America White Again' that was all we needed to know"

Megyn Kelly almost jumped out of her seat in disbelief and quickly informed this low information idiot that "NO" Donald Trump has NEVER said that!

But folks...that is what a lot of these ignorant protestors think. It's astounding.
Almost elections in Holland. A new party, against racism, but more against the Dutch culture (Black Pete, everybody is racist etcetra) was on TV. The leader a black woman, always angry at the white and always playing victim also said Trump was racist. When they asked on TV how she knew, she said she had seen an interview of Trump with 'moving' pictures when he made racist talk.... 10 minutes later the show showed a fact check and found out it was fake and confronted her in the show with it... she didn't know what to say. Trump must have said something racist she repeated...
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you can be sure that they will not - and they would not if there wouldnīt have been this numbers around what made everyone sure that trump will not win.

IF this 70% would be afraid that trump will not win - they would have gone, or not?



again because THEY THOUGHT she will win anyway....



what you mean "plenty of voters" ???? more than 40% did NOT vote and from your "plenty" the majority voted for hillary.
do you really think that this over 40% would stay at home when they wanted trump to win and hear everywhere that he have no chance?
you are a dreamer.



if they only get more than before it is enough - because republicans will see than that they do not have a chance in the next president elections and they will help the democrats on any distrust vote to kick him out.

there are A LOT of republicans what disagree with him so donīt be too sure that they will back him up.
yes, that is one way to explain she lost. They do the same in Holland. There was a referendum about Ukrain. You need at least x% of the population to vote to make it legit. Some of the pro-Ukrain parties didn't do much campaigning, other received, illegaly, money from George Soros (and than saying the Anti Ukrain party got money from Russia what was ridicilous, but they must have something to cover their loss. Some of the Pro Ukrain parties where aiming that not enough people would vote and the referendum wouldn't be legit. And when they lost they started whining that IF everybody would have voted to Pro-Ukrain side would have won. If this, If that, If so. they would have won. Yes, and when the earth wouldn't be round we would fall off. I heard that whining too many times to take it serious anymore.
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you can be sure that they will not - and they would not if there wouldnīt have been this numbers around what made everyone sure that trump will not win.

IF this 70% would be afraid that trump will not win - they would have gone, or not?



again because THEY THOUGHT she will win anyway....



what you mean "plenty of voters" ???? more than 40% did NOT vote and from your "plenty" the majority voted for hillary.
do you really think that this over 40% would stay at home when they wanted trump to win and hear everywhere that he have no chance?
you are a dreamer.



if they only get more than before it is enough - because republicans will see than that they do not have a chance in the next president elections and they will help the democrats on any distrust vote to kick him out.

there are A LOT of republicans what disagree with him so donīt be too sure that they will back him up.
The Trump rally sizes were all you needed to know, especially in the swing states

Hillary would give a rally in Florida and 200 people would show up. The media would not accurately report this but some people would. Tim Kaine gave a speech and like 7 people showed up. Trump had rockstar type numbers. 20,000 30,000 50,000 people...and the media would not report this but some honest people would

We all knew who was going to win
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