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Old 03-23-2003, 10:37 PM   #1
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Anti-War Protesters, have no idea what they are protesting...

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Old 03-23-2003, 10:40 PM   #2
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Oops... Sorry, Bad copy/paste job. Forgot the L... It's up now.
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He's a Shi'ite Muslim though. It's like getting a Liberal to speak on behalf of America going to war against Iraq.
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Not of course that ANY section of society should have to go through that and it will be a good thing when saddam is gone, but to be objective, he doesn't stand for all Iraqi's.. the Shi'ites are the ones surrendering.
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I didn't catch this on the news, but my brother told me that he was watching KGO news out of San Francisco a couple of days ago when some of the peace protesters were out and about. A few of them were interviewed by the station and were asked some of the most basic of questions about the politics of the war, and they didn't have a clue. According to my brother one of the protesters had some flyers and the newsman (after having interviewed the protester and she too could not answer some of the most basic questions) happened to realize that some of the answers were actually on the flyer and began to read the flyer on air.

I am always suspicious of the motives of 99% of anyone with a "cause" no matter what the cause is.
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I have not seen ONE Iraqi Exile that is against this war. Not ONE! There are over 10,000 thousand Iraqis in the US and half of them can't wait to go back once it is free of Saddam.
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'In an exclusive interview with The Sun-Herald, he said: "When I see thousands of Australians marching the streets on behalf of the Iraqi people, my heart sinks, because their view is not that of the Iraqi people.'
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I am always suspicious of the motives of 99% of anyone with a "cause" not matter what the cause is.
Even if that "cause" is "liberating" Iraq?
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I have not seen ONE Iraqi Exile that is against this war. Not ONE! There are over 10,000 thousand Iraqis in the US and half of them can't wait to go back once it is free of Saddam.
Exactly, that engineer guy is ready to do his part and 'make iraq a great nation again' I thought that was cool, there arer 4 million Iraqi exiles around the world due to Saddam, they all are willing to return.
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'In an exclusive interview with The Sun-Herald, he said: "When I see thousands of Australians marching the streets on behalf of the Iraqi people, my heart sinks, because their view is not that of the Iraqi people.'
A few things:

1. Since when are the protestors marching on behalf of the Iraqi people? They're marching against the war.

2. What gives him the right to speak on behalf of the Iraqi people? He's just someone with an opinion.. and an axe to grind.

3 What exile doesn't hate the government they fled from..? look at all the right-wing extremist Cuban refugess in south Florida.
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I have not seen ONE Iraqi Exile that is against this war. Not ONE! There are over 10,000 thousand Iraqis in the US and half of them can't wait to go back once it is free of Saddam.
That's my impression as well.
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Exactly, that engineer guy is ready to do his part and 'make iraq a great nation again' I thought that was cool, there arer 4 million Iraqi exiles around the world due to Saddam, they all are willing to return.
It's really sad. Hopefully they can go home soon.
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I have not seen ONE Iraqi Exile that is against this war. Not ONE! There are over 10,000 thousand Iraqis in the US and half of them can't wait to go back once it is free of Saddam.
I've seen heaps of Iraqi's against it here.. it's only most of the shi'ite muslims or kurds that understandably want saddam out.
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I have not seen ONE Iraqi Exile that is against this war. Not ONE! There are over 10,000 thousand Iraqis in the US and half of them can't wait to go back once it is free of Saddam.
So, you can look and hear a few from tonight report on CTV Network...

Note that I kept the presentator at the beginning and end to show that it was not a part !, part 2 thing. This clip has not been CNNized....

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Fuckin' Exactly.
They really give her a chance to answer interrupted. She at least has more manners... let the guy talk interrupted....

Did you listen to the above clip also?
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They really give her a chance to answer interrupted. She at least has more manners... let the guy talk interrupted....

Did you listen to the above clip also?
That guy was a rude, condescending arrogant arsehole.

No wonder Saddam wanted to kill him. I would have to.

He's just some bitter Iraqi exile with an axe to grind.
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Do you think that supporters know why US is in this war?

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Did I understand this right? Did this "little girl" use North Korea and Israel as examples of how diplomacy and international law can create peace?

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Fuckin' Exactly.

hey because we all know one or two examples tells us exactly what everyone thinks.
If I showed you a pro-war person that was totally clueless would you suddenly think all pro-war people were clueless? use polls even use statistics.. don't use a radio call in for christ's sake.
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hey because we all know one or two examples tells us exactly what everyone thinks.
If I showed you a pro-war person that was totally clueless would you suddenly think all pro-war people were clueless? use polls even use statistics.. don't use a radio call in for christ's sake.
You're right.

But, what did you think of the girl? Don't give me any excuses, "she was under pressure", "the Iraqi was rude and arrogant."

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To look at these former Iraqi people and scoff at their opinions and their new citizenships is a complete joke. Of course they're going to be bitter and upset, they left Iraq for a reason.

I haven't seen any former Iraqi citizen come out in favor of Saddam yet, or even anti-war. Not saying there aren't any, but doesn't this make you wonder?
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I haven't seen any former Iraqi citizen come out in favor of Saddam yet, or even anti-war. Not saying there aren't any, but doesn't this make you wonder?
I wonder if you read. TYou will not see with your eyes closed...

So, you can look and hear a few from tonight report on CTV Network...

Note that I kept the presentator at the beginning and end to show that it was not a part !, part 2 thing. This clip has not been CNNized....

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A few things:

1. Since when are the protestors marching on behalf of the Iraqi people? They're marching against the war.

2. What gives him the right to speak on behalf of the Iraqi people? He's just someone with an opinion.. and an axe to grind.

3 What exile doesn't hate the government they fled from..? look at all the right-wing extremist Cuban refugess in south Florida.
If you research the matter , many of the bay area protests are funded etc by Saddam's amercian Attorney..
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You're right.

But, what did you think of the girl? Don't give me any excuses, "she was under pressure", "the Iraqi was rude and arrogant."

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To look at these former Iraqi people and scoff at their opinions and their new citizenships is a complete joke. Of course they're going to be bitter and upset, they left Iraq for a reason.

I haven't seen any former Iraqi citizen come out in favor of Saddam yet, or even anti-war. Not saying there aren't any, but doesn't this make you wonder?
She doesn't need excuses - the girl was a fucking idiot.. probably 80% of the protestors are.. about the same as the pro-war people. Do you seriously think the views of dissenting Iraqi's are going to be given the air-time of pro-war iraqi's?? No way in hell. I've seen people here say that the people that are protesting are muslim's and Iraqi's on one hand, and then say no Iraqi's are against the war on the other.. There are plenty of anti-war Iraqi's. If you watch protest footage you should see some.
I guess I just don't like seeing things get a little unbalanced - I guarantee you most if not all of the pro-war Iraqi's are Kurd's or Shi'ites, which is kinda like asking what a palestinian living in Israel thinks about Ariel Sharon.

I'm not of course saying that it means disregard their comments.. Saddam's treatment of the different sects is the best reason for going in and taking him out, I'm just saying don't get caught out by the propaganda, or in this case, the selective voices being shown.

besides an Iraqi against the war isn't a new's story, you'd expect it.

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If you research the matter , many of the bay area protests are funded etc by Saddam's amercian Attorney..
Can you throw me a link?
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If you research the matter , many of the bay area protests are funded etc by Saddam's amercian Attorney..
How can that be. All iraqi funds in the US have been frozen since the end of the Gulf War and were confiscated last week?
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