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Old 03-23-2003, 06:13 PM   #1
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Allied forces found a chem/bio weapons factory?

Now on Fox..
Impossible! How can it be????
The UN inspectors didn't find it! So how can the alied forces find it???
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Now on Sky as well.
I wonder if its true.
What do you think people?
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Sky News:



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The facility was found in Najaf, around 225 miles south of Baghdad, US military officials say.
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Reuters:


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chemical weapons about 100 miles south of Baghdad, Fox News reported on Sunday.
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huge installation apparently used to produce chemical weapons in An Najaf, some 250 kilometers south of Baghdad.
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They can't even have the same distance from Baghdad!

- 225 miles
- 100 miles
- 250 km

Reliable sources!
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Maybe a poll would be good to guess the distance!
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Maybe a poll would be good to guess the distance!
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But they all say its near Najaf ;) They just need a map and a ruler

Btw- what is a reliable source in your opinion? Al-Jazeera?
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But they all say its near Najaf ;) They just need a map and a ruler

Btw- what is a reliable source in your opinion? Al-Jazeera?
None are reliable.... It's all propaganda for one side or the other ...

News people are shown what the authorities want them to report on. And again. both sides!

Time will let us find the truth, and time can be decennies ( Top secret documents eventually released if not shredded before).
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None are reliable.... It's all propaganda for one side or the other ...

News people are shown what the authorities want them to report on. And again. both sides!

Time will let us find the truth, and time can be decennies ( Top secret documents eventually released if not shredded before).
If chemical weapons ARE found... what would it take for you to believe?
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If chemical weapons ARE found... what would it take for you to believe?
What will take to convince the pope that God does not exists?
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Al Jazeera is muslim-land's CNN, with as much propaghanda
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What will take to convince the pope that God does not exists?
Haha. How does one prove that God does or does not exist? He can't.

How does one prove that said country owns/manufactures chemical weapons? He can. But proving to the skeptic may be impossible.
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If chemical weapons ARE found... what would it take for you to believe?
If real chemical weapons are found, not an Aspirin or pretzel that could have been used to kill George Bush, it would make me accept the premier goal of the war: disarm....

But not the take over of the country....

I think Saddam is a piece of shit, but an intelligent one .... In fact, in the political arena, he has beaten Bush 10 - 0
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Glad someone else realizes that.
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He doesn't? Damn! I knew Bush would kill him too.. had to be 1 and only superpower
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Sounds like the chemical plant was camoflagued to hide it from aerial view.
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If real chemical weapons are found, not an Aspirin or pretzel that could have been used to kill George Bush, it would make me accept the premier goal of the war: disarm....
But not the take over of the country....
Yep.
I agree - my motto is...
"Sure Disarm - through repetative requests." No-one - not even a friendly dictator - can resist 3 sincere reuests in a row!
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If real chemical weapons are found, not an Aspirin or pretzel that could have been used to kill George Bush, it would make me accept the premier goal of the war: disarm....

But not the take over of the country....

I think Saddam is a piece of shit, but an intelligent one .... In fact, in the political arena, he has beaten Bush 10 - 0
I would suggest to you...put brain in gear...and re-think what you just posted.
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100 acre plant and they knew right away is a Chem plant, so much desperate bullshit

Bush made a mistake, Just wishing all the best for the people fighting this war
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I would suggest to you...put brain in gear...and re-think what you just posted.
I would suggest you find yours... if it does exist.
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100 acre plant and they knew right away is a Chem plant, so much desperate bullshit

Bush made a mistake, Just wishing all the best for the people fighting this war
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100 acre plant and they knew right away is a Chem plant, so much desperate bullshit

Bush made a mistake, Just wishing all the best for the people fighting this war
Early media reports can be and often are unreliable, but it does not take alot of brain power to realize that you are in a production facility/lab in the middle of no where. If you are a soldier it does not take alot of brain power to realize that something has been camouflaged.
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Early media reports can be and often are unreliable, but it does not take alot of brain power to realize that you are in a production facility/lab in the middle of no where. If you are a soldier it does not take alot of brain power to realize that something has been camouflaged.
The fact is that this war was not needed at the moment, there was no threat said the head of the CIA to congress, he did say Bin Laden is a threat.

Only BUSH and the VP wanted this war, even if hes got nukes again the US was not a threat and the evidence that Powell presented was fake.

So is 1 drop of US blood worth this? NO!

Its an outrage but there is nothing we can do about it.
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Now on Fox..
Impossible! How can it be????
The UN inspectors didn't find it! So how can the alied forces find it???
Blix and his inspectors couldn't find a hooker in a whorehouse...and Blix himself admitted that inspections don't really work unless the regime in question cooperates.

I think all the anti-American, anti-bush, assholes are now in denial, since apparently the deadly threat seen by the American administration is in fact REAL......

I also suspect you will see chemical weapons used, perhaps in Baghdad, but I suppose some of you will have another excuse for that......
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Have some people lost their minds or what?


Dont you think if such a thing existed , the IRAQIs would have blown it up by now .. since they knew US is moving in?
Why would they let it sit there and let us brag about it to the world?



I really think this is pure propoganda.
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Blix and his inspectors couldn't find a hooker in a whorehouse...and Blix himself admitted that inspections don't really work unless the regime in question cooperates.

I think all the anti-American, anti-bush, assholes are now in denial, since apparently the deadly threat seen by the American administration is in fact REAL......

I also suspect you will see chemical weapons used, perhaps in Baghdad, but I suppose some of you will have another excuse for that......

Jerusalem Post:


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the 3rd Infantry Division

No pics? No videos ? "Embedded reporters????

You jump the gun ( not smoking BTW) when saying:

"...is in fact REAL."
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The report, which cited unidentified Pentagon officials, said the chemicals and what was believed to be a chemical weapons factory were discovered by advancing U.S. forces.
That's from Reuters.

"unidentified" , " beleived"

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Far from the "REAL" statment.
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100 acre plant and they knew right away is a Chem plant, so much desperate bullshit
Who told you how fast they came to the conclusion?
And who told you they need alot of time to see it as such?
Maybe the fact they cought the manager of the plant helps identifying what it is? *hint*

As DirectFiesta said -its not even verified - and nothing in my post indcated otherwise I even joked about it and asked "IS IT POSSIBLE?"
By when comes to believing - I have little doubts that they will find alot of those.
Its just funny DirectFiesta is such a fan of Saddam and his regime and believes its all about good and peace. He probably suspects the Curds gas victims are a CIA conspiracy
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Kindly .... Shut the Fuck Up!........ and WAIT!..

This story was released within the hour. The proof will be forthcoming.
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http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=31679



3 days in.. 1 found already..

Fuck off France, Russia, Germany......
How many of the tools and technologies did you sell them? How much of your shit will we find in these plants? Its all about losing your mony from the regime..


FUCcccccccccccccccccccck off


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Bush made a mistake, Just wishing all the best for the people fighting this war
100 acres is tiny.
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Its just funny DirectFiesta is such a fan of Saddam and his regime and believes its all about good and peace.
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Directfiesta:I think Saddam is a piece of shit, but an intelligent one .... In fact, in the political arena, he has beaten Bush 10 - 0
a few post above....

For the CIA involvment, here is a supe reliable link to a thruthfull article ( Kurdistan observer.... huge circulation!)

http://home.cogeco.ca/~kurdistanobse...ising-irq.html

CIA Plans Uprising In Iraq
Mar 3, 2002
Pravda

Secret US plans to instigate an uprising in Iraq against the Ba?ath regime of president Saddam Hussein have been revealed by sources close to the White House and CIA.

These reports have not been officially confirmed nor denied, but they are so numerous that everything points towards the veracity of such a plan, especially at this moment in time, with George Bush referring to Baghdad as one of the points in the ?axis of evil? and numerous senators denouncing the plans for a military invasion. While analysts claim that such an exercise would be extremely complicated, especially in the short term, the instigation of a popular uprising with tacit and covert support from abroad would be a much easier proposition.

The indications that this is fact and not fantasy are already clear. A four-man CIA team, led by the agency?s chief officer in Istanbul, contacted local politicians in Iraqi Kurdistan three weeks ago and approached them as to their needs in the event of an uprising. The Americans spoke about three secret destinations for US military aircraft to land, although the ?secrecy? ...

You can " prove" anything or "disprove" eveything....

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Dont you think if such a thing existed , the IRAQIs would have blown it up by now .. since they knew US is moving in?
Why would they let it sit there and let us brag about it to the world?
Don't you think if this was a regular, non-working chemical plant, they wouldn't have soldiers protecting it? And camouflage. For what? To keep the camels away?

Don't you think the explosion of a camouflage chemical plant would alert coalition troops and satellites? You don't think we would notice it and wonder what the hell it was?

I'm interested to see what it really is. But don't you find this a little strange?
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100 acres is tiny.

100 acres is tiny.... How tiny is one drop of VX? One drop on exposed skin and your dead in oh.... what? 3 minutes? How many drops can you hide in 100 acres?


Those that say we shouldn't be there need to go back and re-watch 9/11.. What I pose to you is a simple question.. How much courage did it take for those terrorists to fly themselves and others into buildings... To commit suicide in order to kill others..

Now.. How much cowardice would be needed to only have to push a button and spray one of these chemicals into the air.. Or detonate a bomb in a public area.. when 1 drop can kill in minutes.. Your talking about a Regime that proudly gased an entire city... The Kurds have had to live through Saddam... I say you catch all these Iraqi fuck faces and hand them over to the Kurds...


These weapons are money to some... WHat happens when they are sold to people with the means to deliver them to our soil.. To your soil... War is the price of peace that some of you assholes want so much..


All you anti war protesters... Follow the path of the one protester in San Fransico.. Fall off the fucking bridge and kill your dumb asses..

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100 acres is tiny.... How tiny is one drop of VX? One drop on exposed skin and your dead in oh.... what? 3 minutes? How many drops can you hide in 100 acres?

Please calculate how much... That should keep you busy and out of here for a while....

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Please calculate how much... That should keep you busy and out of here for a while....

A striking argument and answer.. -looks closer-

Ohh Quebec.... Now I understand.

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100 acres is tiny.... How tiny is one drop of VX? One drop on exposed skin and your dead in oh.... what? 3 minutes? How many drops can you hide in 100 acres?


Those that say we shouldn't be there need to go back and re-watch 9/11.. What I pose to you is a simple question.. How much courage did it take for those terrorists to fly themselves and others into buildings... To commit suicide in order to kill others..

Now.. How much cowardice would be needed to only have to push a button and spray one of these chemicals into the air.. Or detonate a bomb in a public area.. when 1 drop can kill in minutes.. Your talking about a Regime that proudly gased an entire city... The Kurds have had to live through Saddam... I say you catch all these Iraqi fuck faces and hand them over to the Kurds...


These weapons are money to some... WHat happens when they are sold to people with the means to deliver them to our soil.. To your soil... War is the price of peace that some of you assholes want so much..


All you anti war protesters... Follow the path of the one protester in San Fransico.. Fall off the fucking bridge and kill your dumb asses..

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My response was to dispute directmorons assertion that for being 100 acres, they found chemicals awfully fast.. not to minimize the find.

Wasn't that obvious by my quoting his/her post?

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Old 03-23-2003, 07:32 PM   #41
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like everything else we heard in this war it takes 24-48 hours to get the facts
Hmm.
Its true that some things take time to get an approval, but I know some things toom much less that 1 hour. Like the helicopter crash, the missiles on Kuwait etc...
Anyway - If as some of you say - you can not know anything for real and anything can be proved or disproved (directFiesta) how can you say you think Saddam has no weapons or anything else as a matter of fact?
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My response was to dispute directmorons assertion that for being 100 acres, they found chemicals awfully fast.. not to minimize the find.

Wasn't that obvious by my quoting his/her post?
Sorry my post wasn't directed as a bash at you persay.. Just been reading some of the idiotic posts by others who are screaming propaganda and shit got me fired up...

I am waiting for the posts that will say we manufactured this plant in order to justify our presence.

I was more chiming in with you than at you. Forgive any misunderstandings.

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Why even bother trying to convince direct "arab" fiesta????
he's a jew hater, a nazi, a cock lover and a moron.
Even if you put his head in a pot full of ricin, he'd tell you its saddam baking cookies.....

In the next few days, there are going to be a lot more discoveries of wmd plants. But it won't make a difference.
russia, france, germany and all the other moronic war protesters are as bad faith as direct 'saddam' fiesta, nothing will convince them. Not even proofs in their faces.

Just get rid of saddam and his puppet regime and put in a american friendly governement.

PS: For those of you; loving or living in: syria, iran, north korea. please beware; your turn is next
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Why even bother trying to convince direct "arab" fiesta????
he's a jew hater, a nazi, a cock lover and a moron.
Even if you put his head in a pot full of ricin, he'd tell you its saddam baking cookies.....

In the next few days, there are going to be a lot more discoveries of wmd plants. But it won't make a difference.
russia, france, germany and all the other moronic war protesters are as bad faith as direct 'saddam' fiesta, nothing will convince them. Not even proofs in their faces.

Just get rid of saddam and his puppet regime and put in a american friendly governement.

PS: For those of you; loving or living in: syria, iran, north korea. please beware; your turn is next
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Impossible! How can it be????
The UN inspectors didn't find it! So how can the alied forces find it???

Cause the UN inspectors didn't have full access to the country!
Plus they had to let Iraq know 24 hours in advance where they were going next. DUH!
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Cause the UN inspectors didn't have full access to the country!
Plus they had to let Iraq know 24 hours in advance where they were going next. DUH!
So freaking what?
You are trying to imply Iraq has disrupted the inspectors inspections? You are aren't you? Have you proofs???
Pffft. No way dude. How else would the inspections work? The iraqis must have known that if they hide their WMD plants the inspectors would not be able to find then - and therefore they will not be disarmed! They won't do that dude! Its not nice!
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If chemical weapons ARE found... what would it take for you to believe?
They'd most likely have to be sprayed over his town.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81935,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ant/index.html

While they are not saying it was a weapons program. I find it a little strange that it was camoflauged to blend in to the desert.

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