More info on the FBI vs Apple for the unlocked backdoor - GoFuckYourself.com

crockett · 02-19-2016, 09:11 PM

According to Apple, the password for the phone in question, was changed within 24/hrs of the FBI taking the phone into their possession. Meaning either the FBI is just trying to use this very public case to make an argument to force Apple to comply or they fucked up and locked the phone after having access to it.

Apple implies FBI screwup: iPhone Apple ID password changed in govt possession, backdoor unnecessary | 9to5Mac

pretty shady shit, they are doing. Added to this, Apple has offered 4 different ways to get them access to the data with out building a back door.

I don't really like Apple, but I give them props for standing their ground.

sandman! · 02-19-2016, 09:13 PM

i dont like apple either but i do agree with them here

SBJ · 02-19-2016, 09:14 PM

And the plot thickens

Barry-xlovecam · 02-19-2016, 09:59 PM

I really don't understand why (cough! cough!) the government and the FBI do not just ask Apple to unlock the one iPhone that is the subject of the search warrant. From the tone of Mr. Cook's letter to the FBI it seems this may be possible with one phone, under these circumstances, with a search warrant and a Court order limited just that one phone.

I disagree with this Judge and Apple is not hurting for the legal fees to appeal this Court's order. So, if there was any exigency; the Court has delayed discovery of any other plotters or conspirators by agreeing with the FBI and government's stubborn foolishness and the lack of regard for the computer user's security. Apple may take this issue to the Supreme Court and it may take 2 years to get resolved.

What an unneccesary cluster-fuck this has become

Had this whole matter been approached with some common sense;

There would be no drama
There would be no breach of security for law abiding citizens

If it was an Android phone in question would Google just roll over or dig their heels in and object also?

sandman! · 02-19-2016, 10:44 PM

andriod phones less secure so yea google rolls over quick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I really don't understand why (cough! cough!) the government and the FBI do not just ask Apple to unlock the one iPhone that is the subject of the search warrant. From the tone of Mr. Cook's letter to the FBI it seems this may be possible with one phone, under these circumstances, with a search warrant and a Court order limited just that one phone.

I disagree with this Judge and Apple is not hurting for the legal fees to appeal this Court's order. So, if there was any exigency; the Court has delayed discovery of any other plotters or conspirators by agreeing with the FBI and government's stubborn foolishness and the lack of regard for the computer user's security. Apple may take this issue to the Supreme Court and it may take 2 years to get resolved.

What an unneccesary cluster-fuck this has become

Had this whole matter been approached with some common sense;

There would be no drama
There would be no breach of security for law abiding citizens

If it was an Android phone in question would Google just roll over or dig their heels in and object also?

crockett · 02-19-2016, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I really don't understand why (cough! cough!) the government and the FBI do not just ask Apple to unlock the one iPhone that is the subject of the search warrant. From the tone of Mr. Cook's letter to the FBI it seems this may be possible with one phone, under these circumstances, with a search warrant and a Court order limited just that one phone.

I disagree with this Judge and Apple is not hurting for the legal fees to appeal this Court's order. So, if there was any exigency; the Court has delayed discovery of any other plotters or conspirators by agreeing with the FBI and government's stubborn foolishness and the lack of regard for the computer user's security. Apple may take this issue to the Supreme Court and it may take 2 years to get resolved.

What an unneccesary cluster-fuck this has become

Had this whole matter been approached with some common sense;

There would be no drama
There would be no breach of security for law abiding citizens

If it was an Android phone in question would Google just roll over or dig their heels in and object also?

I think the govt isn't too worried about this one phone.. They are using it as a way to get backdoor access. I'm sure they just assumed they could pressure Apple into complying.

BIGTYMER · 02-19-2016, 11:28 PM

Why do I get the feeling this is all for show? Theater. Propaganda. Post Snowden leaks.

The government needs to push the narrative that they can't crack encryption.. Make criminals and terrorists feel safe using encrypted services and devices.

Apple is the new Microsoft?

shiraz9944 · 02-20-2016, 12:12 AM

if the terrorist used wickr or coverme or any of the other encryption messaging programs it probably won't matter anyway, just show them locations etc......wickr is super secure and shreds everything on a timetable you dictate. They could get their contact list I guess, if that is what they want.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-20-2016, 05:33 AM

iPhone User Donald Trump Wants to Boycott Apple

Quote:

GOP presidential candidate and sack of rotting tangerines Donald Trump has called for a boycott of Apple products until the tech company obeys the government’s demands about unlocking a suspect’s phone.

“Boycott Apple,” the pumpkin-themed businessman said at a rally in South Carolina.

Trump never misses a free media opportunity ...

Welcome to the latest cluster-fuck

RummyBoy · 02-20-2016, 06:50 AM

MacAfee says he can crack the phone:

John McAfee: I can crack the iPhone | Watch the video - Yahoo Finance

SilentKnight · 02-20-2016, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

iPhone User Donald Trump Wants to Boycott Apple

Trump never misses a free media opportunity ...

Welcome to the latest cluster-fuck

I like the Donald...but stupid move on Trump's part.

crockett · 02-20-2016, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I like the Donald...but stupid move on Trump's part.

I think Trump just looks for groups of people to piss off and alienate. Now the Apple fan boys will hate him... lol

woj · 02-20-2016, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Why do I get the feeling this is all for show? Theater. Propaganda. Post Snowden leaks.

The government needs to push the narrative that they can't crack encryption.. Make criminals and terrorists feel safe using encrypted services and devices.

Apple is the new Microsoft?

no kidding, nsa/cia/etc has a budget larger than most countries... their job is to hack military/government grade equipment/encryption, etc...and yet they can't hack a simple phone used by some peasant?

I have no idea how any of you are buying this bullshit...

Grapesoda · 02-20-2016, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

Why do I get the feeling this is all for show? Theater. Propaganda. Post Snowden leaks.

The government needs to push the narrative that they can't crack encryption.. Make criminals and terrorists feel safe using encrypted services and devices.

Apple is the new Microsoft?

yeah these guys are sharp enough to pull that off for sure.. back in the early 90's I think it was, cover of time magazine was ancient trade routes under the sand, across the Sahara Desert. All shot from space.... point was to Russia: we see ALL your underground secret bullshit .. fuck you

Grapesoda · 02-20-2016, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

no kidding, nsa/cia/etc has a budget larger than most countries... their job is to hack military/government grade equipment/encryption, etc...and yet they can't hack a simple phone used by some peasant?

I have no idea how any of you are buying this bullshit...

shit.. we could ask the Chinese for the back door

blogspot · 02-20-2016, 12:56 PM

it's crazy people can hack into our power grid but can't unlock an iphone

ErectMedia · 02-20-2016, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I like the Donald...but stupid move on Trump's part.

+1

I'm all for Apple cracking the phone on their turf and then destroying it due to nature of the case. Not a fan of them building a new firmware version etc... and then handing that over to them so they can crack any phone whenever they wan't.

Relic · 02-20-2016, 02:43 PM

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DBS.US · 02-20-2016, 03:00 PM

Never mind

Grapesoda · 02-20-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

unlock an iphone - YouTube

send that link to the NSA pls

Coup · 02-20-2016, 03:11 PM

I've used this technique before

Matyko · 02-21-2016, 02:11 PM

crockett · 02-21-2016, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

SilentKnight · 02-21-2016, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

+1

I'm all for Apple cracking the phone on their turf and then destroying it due to nature of the case. Not a fan of them building a new firmware version etc... and then handing that over to them so they can crack any phone whenever they wan't.

Precisely.

blogspot · 02-21-2016, 02:31 PM

they are giving apple four days to respond to the court order

bronco67 · 02-22-2016, 07:26 AM

I don't think the FBI has any far reaching nefarious purpose for this "backdoor" from Apple. They most likely only want to get into this phone.

The problem is, once they get this new power, it could easily "slip" out of their grasp and end up with the wrong people. The FBI is comprised of human beings, and we know how that goes. So the end result will be our worst fear come to life, whether the FBI is being shady or not. It will happen.

It's the same reason you don't tell anyone your passwords for ANYTHING -- even close friends or family. It's just following good nerd security practices.

02-19-2016, 09:11 PM	#1
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	More info on the FBI vs Apple for the unlocked backdoor According to Apple, the password for the phone in question, was changed within 24/hrs of the FBI taking the phone into their possession. Meaning either the FBI is just trying to use this very public case to make an argument to force Apple to comply or they fucked up and locked the phone after having access to it. Apple implies FBI screwup: iPhone Apple ID password changed in govt possession, backdoor unnecessary \| 9to5Mac pretty shady shit, they are doing. Added to this, Apple has offered 4 different ways to get them access to the data with out building a back door. I don't really like Apple, but I give them props for standing their ground.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I really don't understand why (cough! cough!) the government and the FBI do not just ask Apple to unlock the one iPhone that is the subject of the search warrant. From the tone of Mr. Cook's letter to the FBI it seems this may be possible with one phone, under these circumstances, with a search warrant and a Court order limited just that one phone. I disagree with this Judge and Apple is not hurting for the legal fees to appeal this Court's order. So, if there was any exigency; the Court has delayed discovery of any other plotters or conspirators by agreeing with the FBI and government's stubborn foolishness and the lack of regard for the computer user's security. Apple may take this issue to the Supreme Court and it may take 2 years to get resolved. What an unneccesary cluster-fuck this has become Had this whole matter been approached with some common sense; There would be no drama There would be no breach of security for law abiding citizens If it was an Android phone in question would Google just roll over or dig their heels in and object also?

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02-19-2016, 11:28 PM	#7
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Why do I get the feeling this is all for show? Theater. Propaganda. Post Snowden leaks. The government needs to push the narrative that they can't crack encryption.. Make criminals and terrorists feel safe using encrypted services and devices. Apple is the new Microsoft?

02-20-2016, 12:12 AM	#8
shiraz9944 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 567	if the terrorist used wickr or coverme or any of the other encryption messaging programs it probably won't matter anyway, just show them locations etc......wickr is super secure and shreds everything on a timetable you dictate. They could get their contact list I guess, if that is what they want.

02-20-2016, 06:50 AM	#10
RummyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,157	MacAfee says he can crack the phone: John McAfee: I can crack the iPhone \| Watch the video - Yahoo Finance

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02-22-2016, 07:26 AM	#26
bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	I don't think the FBI has any far reaching nefarious purpose for this "backdoor" from Apple. They most likely only want to get into this phone. The problem is, once they get this new power, it could easily "slip" out of their grasp and end up with the wrong people. The FBI is comprised of human beings, and we know how that goes. So the end result will be our worst fear come to life, whether the FBI is being shady or not. It will happen. It's the same reason you don't tell anyone your passwords for ANYTHING -- even close friends or family. It's just following good nerd security practices. __________________