Hitler's Chief of Staff went on to become NATO Chairman

[wehateporn]

[seeandsee]

I did't know that, but not supprised, they collected many nazi's

[MiamiBoyz]

He certainly had the experience for the job...

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

He certainly had the experience for the job...

[spads]

Both the US and the Soviet Union raided Germany after WWII and took the best and brightest. Of course you only hear about the US doing it because "USA is the worst ever, etc. etc.". OP do you think if the US disappeared that the rest of the world would hold hands and sing kumbaya?

[Rob]

Originally Posted by spads

Both the US and the Soviet Union raided Germany after WWII and took the best and brightest. Of course you only hear about the US doing it because "USA is the worst ever, etc. etc.". OP do you think if the US disappeared that the rest of the world would hold hands and sing kumbaya?

Exactly!

There was a mad rush, or grab for Germany's brightest people, as well as all of their tech. One of the most notable was Wernher von Braun, creator of the V2 Rockets that terrorized Britain. Then came to the U.S. and is pretty much the founding father of NASA. The list goes on and on. Even the current U.S. military helmet is designed after the original SS helmets. The Germans were some fucked up people, but they had fucking style and they knew their shit.

[just a punk]

Pfff, NATO was formed and ruled by Nazis. That's not a secret.

[spads]

Originally Posted by Rob

Exactly!

There was a mad rush, or grab for Germany's brightest people, as well as all of their tech. One of the most notable was Wernher von Braun, creator of the V2 Rockets that terrorized Britain. Then came to the U.S. and is pretty much the founding father of NASA. The list goes on and on. Even the current U.S. military helmet is designed after the original SS helmets. The Germans were some fucked up people, but they had fucking style and they knew their shit.

Both the US and Soviet space programs were run on German innovation. At least their was some good that came out of that dictatorship. Name one thing that came out of the soviet Union that was positive. You can't because the only thing we learned from them is that communism doesn't work.

[Rochard]

A lot of those in the German military weren't really Nazis. A lot of the higher ranking officers had started years before the Nazi party existed, and were just doing their job.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Rochard

and were just doing their job.

[TheSquealer]

General Patton was constantly getting into trouble for using Nazi's to continue to run the administrative side of the cities which were recaptured.... because.... "gasp!!!".... they were really really good at it.

[$money$]

Never knew this pretty interesting

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A lot of those in the German military weren't really Nazis. A lot of the higher ranking officers had started years before the Nazi party existed, and were just doing their job.

Well, the Nuremberg trials certainly destroyed that argument, didn't it? "We were just following orders!!"

The question I have - and, to be truthful, the PROBLEM I have - is I find it hard to believe that the instant the war was over all those Nazis just POOF! disavowed their Nazism like flicking a light switch, don't you? "We are not Nazis now!! Heil Hit - um, Heil Truman!"

I just don't buy it. My theory? The Nazi "ideals" have slowly infiltrated themselves into the US military and political system. All this control, spying, fear and rhetoric feels like it's right out of the Nazi playbook.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A lot of those in the German military weren't really Nazis. A lot of the higher ranking officers had started years before the Nazi party existed, and were just doing their job.

A good new years resolution for you would be for you to actually learn about shit before you post.

Heads up, Hitler started years before "the nazi party" so by your logic, he wasn't really a nazi.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Well, the Nuremberg trials certainly destroyed that argument, didn't it? "We were just following orders!!"

The question I have - and, to be truthful, the PROBLEM I have - is I find it hard to believe that the instant the war was over all those Nazis just POOF! disavowed their Nazism like flicking a light switch, don't you? "We are not Nazis now!! Heil Hit - um, Heil Truman!"

I just don't buy it. My theory? The Nazi "ideals" have slowly infiltrated themselves into the US military and political system. All this control, spying, fear and rhetoric feels like it's right out of the Nazi playbook.

one part of Germanys success after 1945 was integrating all the teachers, judges etc and also lots of former military back into society - the allies rightfully knew that for a functioning society, you need people who know how to run it.

To at least weed out the really bad apples there was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

main mistake of the Iraq invasion btw

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

one part of Germanys success after 1945 was integrating all the teachers, judges etc and also lots of former military back into society - the allies rightfully knew that for a functioning society, you need people who know how to run it.

To at least weed out the really bad apples there was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

main mistake of the Iraq invasion btw

VERY true. The Allies were highly concerned about a German uprising after the war if all those Nazis were around with nothing to do. But perhaps you get what I mean: in their HEARTS I find it difficult to understand how the average everyday Nazi (whether he/she was a teacher, judge, whoever) could just switch off their allegiance and idealogy. Suddenly Germany was not racist? Suddenly the Jews were ok?

Once a person firmly believes in something - his church, his political viewpoint, anything - it's almost impossible to change that belief. Try talking rational things to a crazy Republican (or Democrat). LOL

One thing is for certain: the Nazi elite that came to America remained Nazis in their hearts and minds to this day. I'm convinced of that.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

VERY true. The Allies were highly concerned about a German uprising after the war if all those Nazis were around with nothing to do. But perhaps you get what I mean: in their HEARTS I find it difficult to understand how the average everyday Nazi (whether he/she was a teacher, judge, whoever) could just switch off their allegiance and idealogy. Suddenly Germany was not racist? Suddenly the Jews were ok?

Once a person firmly believes in something - his church, his political viewpoint, anything - it's almost impossible to change that belief. Try talking rational things to a crazy Republican (or Democrat). LOL

One thing is for certain: the Nazi elite that came to America remained Nazis in their hearts and minds to this day. I'm convinced of that.

possible - i know that my grandparents on my mothers side still were Nazis and pointing that out (among other things) got me disinherited

[noshit]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

All this control, spying, fear and rhetoric feels like it's right out of the Nazi playbook.

It is.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

possible - i know that my grandparents on my mothers side still were Nazis and pointing that out (among other things) got me disinherited

WOW!! Props to you Sir! Not because your grandparents were Nazis. LOL But because you actually literally paid a price for pointing out the (painful) truth. That took real courage - even if you didn't know about the disinheritance at the time.

My parents are German/Dutch on my dad's side and German/British on my mom's (or 'mum's') side with a little Apache indian thrown in for good measure. My great-great-great-grandparents came here from Germany in mid-1800's and settled in Pennsylvania. That's where great-great-great-granddad met an Apache woman seperated from the tribe and relocated after Cochise's conquest. I love that story while it also sickens me.

But fuck it man. You could probably buy and sell your grandparents by now anyway so good riddance to Nazi gold.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by spads

Both the US and Soviet space programs were run on German innovation. At least their was some good that came out of that dictatorship. Name one thing that came out of the soviet Union that was positive. You can't because the only thing we learned from them is that communism doesn't work.

in China are communism
US and USSR did nothing to progress Hitler do all))

[TeenCat]

too bad goebbels killed himself he could be better pr master than that vivid guy

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

WOW!! Props to you Sir! Not because your grandparents were Nazis. LOL But because you actually literally paid a price for pointing out the (painful) truth. That took real courage - even if you didn't know about the disinheritance at the time.

My parents are German/Dutch on my dad's side and German/British on my mom's (or 'mum's') side with a little Apache indian thrown in for good measure. My great-great-great-grandparents came here from Germany in mid-1800's and settled in Pennsylvania. That's where great-great-great-granddad met an Apache woman seperated from the tribe and relocated after Cochise's conquest. I love that story while it also sickens me.

But fuck it man. You could probably buy and sell your grandparents by now anyway so good riddance to Nazi gold.

i learned two things:

- you can pick your friends but not your family
- money is overrated