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fitzmulti · 12-17-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

This year, they don't seem to be fielding any candidates worth a damn yet.

So my vote is up in the air. I don't think voting the "lesser of two evils" is a good thing to do either.

Trump interests me because he isn't controlled by the RNC or DNC or any of the super-donors.
He's like a unicorn and probably a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence.

Doesn't mean I agree with him though. I don't think we need a "wall". We fought the "Cold War" with the Soviet Union and the biggest day of that came when the "Wall" was torn down in Berlin. And now we want to build one ourselves?

I also don't think we need to spend even MORE on the military. We already spend more than the next 10 counties combined. It's a overbloated gravy train for defense contractors.

Want to know why we haven't took ISIS down (which our military could do in about one hour from start to finish)? Because it's being used to make people think we don't have a big enough military.

Did you hear the Republicans during the debate saying that we need to build the military up even more to deal with ISIS? WTF? We spend hundreds of billions of dollars every year on military (for no reason).

Fact is...ISIS isn't that big of a military force. They are poorly equipped. 1/10000 of our military could finish them off in about an hour.
It's ridiculous.

FITTY non votes yet...
For the most part: THIS! ^^^

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Do you really, really trust any of these idiots with that kind of responsibility?

Nope, I've pretty clearly said that all along. You may have mistaken my disgust with the media trying to take Trump out as some kind of endorsement of Trump by me. It's not.

As for the things they said in the debate...nothing new there. The Dems were just as bad in the 2008 debates. Lies were told, facts were wrong, etc.

I heard an interesting thing today on MSNBC. They were talking about the debate (of course), and one of the panelists said that Trump isn't held to the same standards as the politicians onstage.

He pointed out that voters don't expect Trump to have all the facts at this point, but to be brought up to speed once he is sworn in as President (which is true). But the guys onstage who are all governors and Senators are expected to be on top of it because they have been getting briefings every day and see classified material.

Makes sense to me.
All data shows that Trump supporters are with him because he isn't controlled by special interests. They expect him to win, take office, and get those same daily briefings and view classified materials and get up to speed.
Just like Pres. Obama did when he took office and knew next to nothing until he was sworn in.

TCLGirls · 12-17-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep you got me. I've "backtracked" on my "claims" thanks to you exposing me.

Way to go! Feel better now? Now please just go away.

First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-17-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Why would it be "mindless" to talk about Obama in the Republican debate?...

It's mindless to have a tie of Trump 23 / Obama 23

Had the mentions been Trump 12 / Obama 23 that would have been expected.

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It's mindless to have a tie of Trump 23 / Obama 23

Had the mentions been Trump 12 / Obama 23 that would have been expected.

I don't think so. During the Dem debates of 2008, everyone was attacking Hillary in that big field of candidates. And then it turned to Obama when he took the lead.

Trump is the leading candidate. And not only that...but everyone on that stage with the exception of Fiorina and Carson (and maybe Cruz) is part of the Republican establishment. And ALL of them except Trump are bought and paid for by big donors.

So yeah...he's definitely the target of everyone: The RNC, The DNC, and the media.

They all want him gone.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the general primary when Trump (or whomever wins the Republican nomination) finally turn their attention 100% to Hillary.

So far, whenever Hillary is seen on television speaking...her poll numbers seem to slip a bit.

So I predict her numbers are going to drop substantially when this thing goes to the general election campaign. Right now she's lying low and keeping herself out of the spotlight (smart move by her). But soon....she won't be able to do that anymore.

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one.

Thanks man! I appreciate your help. Now don't you have somewhere else to be other than this thread?

TCLGirls · 12-17-2015, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Thanks man! I appreciate your help. Now don't you have somewhere else to be other than this thread?

Mobile internet access makes it quite easy to be somewhere, and on GFY, at the same time. Give it a try sometime

crockett · 12-17-2015, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LAJ

Robbie, why don't you like Bernie? Seems to me your views align more with his?

Because liberals...

crockett · 12-17-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Why would it be "mindless" to talk about Obama in the Republican debate?

Are you aware of how many times the Democrats mentioned Bush in the 2008 Democrat debates?
I'm not sure where you are going with your line of thinking. The debate was themed as "National Security"
The number one issue right now is ISIS. And the Republicans (and majority of all Americans according to every poll) disagree with how Obama has handled the situation.

Makes sense to me that they would talk about the subject matter of the debate. Where do you find fault with that? Especially when the moderators were asking them the questions.

Actually, as I mentioned in the other topic, the number one threat to national security here in country according to both the FBI and homeland Securty is home grown right wing extremist.. Yet suprise not a single canidate has mentioned that..

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Because liberals...

I do like Bernie. But he isn't liberal enough socially for me. He's the most liberal of the bunch for sure. But I'll never get the chance to vote for him. I'm registered as a Libertarian. And he's not going to make it to the General Election unfortunately.

Once again "crockettscience" is disproved. You only see things as either you are a Democrat or a "right wing nut". That kind of limited thinking is the reason that you don't excel to your full potential in life.

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Actually, as I mentioned in the other topic, the number one threat to national security here in country according to both the FBI and homeland Securty is home grown right wing extremist.. Yet suprise not a single canidate has mentioned that..

Is that true? Or are you referring to people IN the country who are of the Islamic faith and have become radicalized?
Because that was discussed a LOT during the debate.

But it wasn't "right wing extremist" And if you would like to show a link that says the FBI and Homeland Security are saying that is the number one threat...please do.

You can't because either YOU are lying or the head of the FBI, President Obama, the CIA, and the NSA are all lying about what they have listed as the number one security threat.

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 08:06 PM

Here ya go crockett:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/t...o-the-homeland

That is from the FBI director.

Man, you just blatantly lie don't you? You should become a politician.

mineistaken · 12-17-2015, 08:12 PM

While I agree with you that Trump is being downplayed by media you should understand that those polls does not mean who won the debate. Many people simply vote for their favorite candidate...

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 08:18 PM

It's weird people think trump should change his campaign strategy. He's winning. He's not taking big corp donations and he's not spending cash to do so.

Why the fuck would that successful guy change his strategy to appease a Canadian that doesn't even vote in his own country's elections?

Bizzaro.

crockett · 12-17-2015, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Is that true? Or are you referring to people IN the country who are of the Islamic faith and have become radicalized?
Because that was discussed a LOT during the debate.

But it wasn't "right wing extremist" And if you would like to show a link that says the FBI and Homeland Security are saying that is the number one threat...please do.

You can't because either YOU are lying or the head of the FBI, President Obama, the CIA, and the NSA are all lying about what they have listed as the number one security threat.

As far back as 2002 the FBI has stated home grown extremism from the right is the biggest threat to Securty here in the states.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/t...-united-states

http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=ht....html%3F_r%3D0

DHS report warns of domestic terror threat - CNNPolitics.com

It just doesn't get "media" attention and elected officals avoid it like the plague...

They may have since updated the threat of ISIS since the recent attacks but even as much as 6 months to a year ago they were still saying home grown right wing terrorist were the biggest threat.

Groups like ISIs are of course a bigger threat abroad, but right wing extremists are still the ones doing all the attacks here in the states.. aside from 9/11 we have had zero attacks carried out by terrorist cells from outside this country. The Cali shootings and those 2 Texas shootings were not planned by any outside groups but were carried out by lone wolfs under their own support.

Why do you lie so much Robbie? The info is incredibly easy to find..

TCLGirls · 12-17-2015, 08:20 PM

The mainstream media apparently hates Trump...so much so that they continually give him free air time by broadcasting his every move, conduct daily interviews with him, and televise his every campaign stop. Gee, with enemies like that, who needs friends?.

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 08:22 PM

Pinko can't figure out the negative trump coverage sells advertising. He thinks the media is a touchy feelgood outfit covering trump because they care.

ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

Sly · 12-17-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

It's weird people think trump should change his campaign strategy. He's winning. He's not taking big corp donations and he's not spending cash to do so.

Why the fuck would that successful guy change his strategy to appease a Canadian that doesn't even vote in his own country's elections?

Bizzaro.

In 2008 the battle cry was either "you are racist" or "you don't like change." Obama campaigned differently and was very successful at it.

The racist argument does not quite apply, but "you don't like change" is sure ringing a bell.

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

In 2008 the battle cry was either "you are racist" or "you don't like change." Obama campaigned differently and was very successful at it.

The racist argument does not quite apply, but "you don't like change" is sure ringing a bell.

And that strategy propelled him past hills and to a win, as you well know. Pretty sure Hillary was winning this time in 2012.

crockett · 12-17-2015, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

In 2008 the battle cry was either "you are racist" or "you don't like change." Obama campaigned differently and was very successful at it.

The racist argument does not quite apply, but "you don't like change" is sure ringing a bell.

That's because.....

Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change.

The very definition of conservatism is one who does not like change...

TCLGirls · 12-17-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

The very definition of conservatism is one who does not like change...

Those people are often in denial...just ask Denial mo, he'll tell you.

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 08:31 PM

Uh, denial mo? That's the best Crockett science can come up with? No wonder pinko is high fiving that.

keysync · 12-17-2015, 08:32 PM

Seriously.
Take a few minutes and watch this series.
This is pretty interesting here.

Sly · 12-17-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

That's because.....

Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change.

The very definition of conservatism is one who does not like change...

So you are now conservative?

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Those people are often in denial...just ask Denial mo, he'll tell you.

Heres how fucking stupid pinko is: I'm otr here often stating Bernie Sanders is my guy.

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

Pinko

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 09:02 PM

the funniest part of this thread is being called denial mo by a guy that;s been exclaiming since september that Trump won't last in a thread about Trump leading the GOP in December. well, that's funny and the pinko high fiving him over that is good for a hah too.

so yeah, sure thing, call me denial mo, not that it's clever or right or funny.

TCLGirls · 12-17-2015, 09:15 PM

^^^ Denial mo getting his feathers ruffled one again...mission accomplished lol

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 09:22 PM

oh i'm a hot mess because pinko and uncle rico exclaim i'm in denial in a thread about Trump kicking ass while they also claim Trump's done'

zing! oh noes. you got me good farva!

dyna mo · 12-17-2015, 09:25 PM

j3rkules · 12-17-2015, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh i'm a hot mess because pinko and uncle rico exclaim i'm in denial in a thread about Trump kicking ass while they also claim Trump's done'

zing! oh noes. you got me good farva!

TheSquealer · 12-17-2015, 10:06 PM

it is a little amusing how the crocketeers run around creating or posting nonsense in political threads and then once their arguments fall apart and they look silly, they're just "trolling republicans". how convenient.

Robbie · 12-17-2015, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

That's because.....

Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change.

The very definition of conservatism is one who does not like change...

That seems to be what it has become. But that's not what modern conservatism was all about at all. It had nothing to do with social conservatism and everything to do with financial conservatism.

Barry Goldwater was the "father" of modern conservatism and he refused to join the "New Right" in the 1980's when they started down the road of trying to get the govt. involved in social issues and religious dogma.

But financial conservatism has nothing to do with not liking change. Financial conservatism is simply good judgement. Just like you do every day with your own finances and budgeting.

Social conservatism...I suppose it might have some redeeming qualities, but none of which I live my life by.
I could do without it.

12-17-2015, 08:06 PM	#62
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Here ya go crockett: https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/t...o-the-homeland That is from the FBI director. Man, you just blatantly lie don't you? You should become a politician. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

12-17-2015, 08:32 PM	#73
keysync Living the Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Murica Posts: 2,375	Seriously. Take a few minutes and watch this series. This is pretty interesting here. __________________

12-17-2015, 10:06 PM	#81
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,175	it is a little amusing how the crocketeers run around creating or posting nonsense in political threads and then once their arguments fall apart and they look silly, they're just "trolling republicans". how convenient. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

12-17-2015, 08:12 PM	#63
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	While I agree with you that Trump is being downplayed by media you should understand that those polls does not mean who won the debate. Many people simply vote for their favorite candidate...

12-17-2015, 08:18 PM	#64
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,099	It's weird people think trump should change his campaign strategy. He's winning. He's not taking big corp donations and he's not spending cash to do so. Why the fuck would that successful guy change his strategy to appease a Canadian that doesn't even vote in his own country's elections? Bizzaro.

12-17-2015, 08:20 PM	#66
TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	The mainstream media apparently hates Trump...so much so that they continually give him free air time by broadcasting his every move, conduct daily interviews with him, and televise his every campaign stop. Gee, with enemies like that, who needs friends?.

12-17-2015, 08:22 PM	#67
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,099	Pinko can't figure out the negative trump coverage sells advertising. He thinks the media is a touchy feelgood outfit covering trump because they care. ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

12-17-2015, 08:31 PM	#72
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,099	Uh, denial mo? That's the best Crockett science can come up with? No wonder pinko is high fiving that.

12-17-2015, 09:02 PM	#76
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,099	the funniest part of this thread is being called denial mo by a guy that;s been exclaiming since september that Trump won't last in a thread about Trump leading the GOP in December. well, that's funny and the pinko high fiving him over that is good for a hah too. so yeah, sure thing, call me denial mo, not that it's clever or right or funny.

12-17-2015, 09:15 PM	#77
TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	^^^ Denial mo getting his feathers ruffled one again...mission accomplished lol

12-17-2015, 09:22 PM	#78
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,099	oh i'm a hot mess because pinko and uncle rico exclaim i'm in denial in a thread about Trump kicking ass while they also claim Trump's done' zing! oh noes. you got me good farva!

12-17-2015, 09:25 PM	#79
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,099