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Mutt 03-21-2003 11:24 AM

The next time a fucking dirty filthy Arab fucker decides to strike a blow against OUR way of life, they will think twice!


They were not targetting civilians, the point of this all is not for our entertainment, not a cowboy President out of control - this is to set some bastards straight and rid the world of Saddam Hussein.

Tough to watch, it shouldn't have come to this but it had to be done.

BRISK 03-21-2003 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
The next time a fucking dirty filthy Arab fucker decides to strike a blow against OUR way of life, they will think twice!
As successful as this attack might be, I doubt it will stop any future terrorism.

Nickatilynx 03-21-2003 11:28 AM

I reckon the US has just done something really monumental.

I think they may have damaged there reputation throughout the world.

They just used a sledgehammer to kill an ant :(

sorry ,but I think it was unnecessary and I think on the stage of world politics,it may just have been a major error.

dazzling 03-21-2003 11:29 AM

According to Jane's Missiles & Rockets the current stockile of Tomahawks is 2,000. If you have a more authoritive source then post it!
Building bunkers is not in violation of U.N. sanctions, and they are upgraded versions of the bunkers that Russia built in Serbia and Kosovo which the Americans could not even scratch.
The British Generals have already stated this openly.

Sly_RJ 03-21-2003 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
1 tommahawk missile = 1.000.000 USD

3000 x 1.000.000 = 3.000.000.000


hmmm......

You're awful concerned about our money and spending.

Afraid you won't be getting your American checks next week? Trust me my friend, your checks are in the mail.

PornBroker 03-21-2003 11:31 AM

My only comment on this shit...


Terrorism sickens me.
Watching a country get bombed into submission live on TV does the same.

:(

Nickatilynx 03-21-2003 11:31 AM

Quote:

As successful as this attack might be, I doubt it will stop any future terrorism.
I agree.I think it will encourage terrorism for generations to come.

Bush has played into the hands of those who see the USA as a bully.

Luke 03-21-2003 11:31 AM

Jeeeeessssuussss!

BRISK 03-21-2003 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

You're awful concerned about our money and spending.

Afraid you won't be getting your American checks next week? Trust me my friend, your checks are in the mail.

IBill checks? :1orglaugh

stockingjo 03-21-2003 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by brutus
Have you seen any satellite photos of those hits... amazing. Really fireworks!
can you tell me where to go to see them..

Giorgio_Xo 03-21-2003 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by dazzling
According to Jane's Missiles & Rockets the current stockile of Tomahawks is 2,000. If you have a more authoritive source then post it!
Building bunkers is not in violation of U.N. sanctions, and they are upgraded versions of the bunkers that Russia built in Serbia and Kosovo which the Americans could not even scratch.
The British Generals have already stated this openly.

The lastest Jane's in from one year ago. You don't think the USA government hasn't ordered more since? I got my numbers from the Pentagon briefing I heard yesterday.

Secondly, we don't need to destroy the bunker. All we need to do is seal off the exits and let them suffocate.

Carrie 03-21-2003 11:37 AM

God I hate that this has to happen. It *is* impressive and we've only seen the start of it, there are still 9 hours of darkness left in Iraq... but god.
That egotistical sonofabitch thinks that HE is Iraq and that Iraq is HIM... couldn't just step down for the sake of his people.
Hubris - pure and simple.
Please let him be taken out so this can be over as quickly as possible with as few lives lost as possible.

And may those missiles and bombs find their targets swiftly and accurately - fly straight and sure - and our pilots and soldiers return to base safely.

CDSmith 03-21-2003 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Yeah.. I've paid for a few of those... I wanna see em do some damage now.... right up Saddam's ass!
I knew there was a reason I like you PK.

You got moxy! :thumbsup

KRL 03-21-2003 11:39 AM

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Interlude 03-21-2003 11:39 AM

This war is too interesting. People should be joining porn sites, not watching TV :)

PersianKitty 03-21-2003 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Carrie
God I hate that this has to happen. It *is* impressive and we've only seen the start of it, there are still 9 hours of darkness left in Iraq... but god.
That egotistical sonofabitch thinks that HE is Iraq and that Iraq is HIM... couldn't just step down for the sake of his people.
Hubris - pure and simple.
Please let him be taken out so this can be over as quickly as possible with as few lives lost as possible.

And may those missiles and bombs find their targets swiftly and accurately - fly straight and sure - and our pilots and soldiers return to base safely.

Carrie...that's just the problem.. he doesn't care about the people of Iraq.

Carrie 03-21-2003 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
I agree.I think it will encourage terrorism for generations to come.
Bush has played into the hands of those who see the USA as a bully.

Nick even if we did nothing, we'd still be seen as the bully, unfortunately. People fear our *potential* to be the bully even if we do nothing. :(

dazzling 03-21-2003 11:45 AM

Although Janes recoreds on Tomahawks are nearly 12 months old, you must acknowledge the FACT also that Tomahawks block production takes around FOUR years!
There are NO orders at the moment for tomahawks becuse they are in process of upgrading the production to the new level Tomahawks!

Carrie 03-21-2003 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Carrie...that's just the problem.. he doesn't care about the people of Iraq.
*nodding*
And that's exactly why our tax dollars are hard at work now. Too bad his people were too afraid to put a bullet through his head (and all of his clones) and stop all this before it started.

angeleyes 03-21-2003 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by dazzling
Although Janes recoreds on Tomahawks are nearly 12 months old, you must acknowledge the FACT also that Tomahawks block production takes around FOUR years!
There are NO orders at the moment for tomahawks becuse they are in process of upgrading the production to the new level Tomahawks!

The US is not going to put itself in a position to use every single bomb/missile that we have.

dazzling 03-21-2003 11:49 AM

But just to see how easy it is to foo; these so called smart weapons which are in fact dumb weapons lets take a quick look at how easy the serbs did it using training and info supplied them by the Russians....

An overview of tactics employed by the Yugoslav army to limit the effectiveness of the NATO air strikes:

Yugoslav air defences tracked U.S. stealth aircraft by using old Russian radars operating on long wavelengths. This, combined with the loss of stealth characteristics when the jets got wet or opened their bomb bays, made them shine on radar screens.
Radars confused precision-guided HARM and ALARM missiles by reflecting their electromagnetic beams off heavy farm machinery, such as plows or old tractors placed around the sites. This cluttered the U.S. missiles' guidance systems, which were unable to pinpoint the emitters.
Scout helicopters would land on flatbed trucks and rev their engines before being towed to camouflaged sites several hundred metres away. Heat-seeking missiles from NATO jets would then locate and go after the residual heat on the trucks.
Yugoslav troops used cheap heat-emitting decoys such as small gas furnaces to simulate nonexistent positions on Kosovo mountainsides. B-52 bombers, employing advanced infrared sensors, repeatedly blasted the empty hills.
The army drew up plans for covert placement of heat and microwave emitters on territory that NATO troops were expected to occupy in a ground war. This was intended to trick the B-52s into carpet-bombing their own forces.
Dozens of dummy objectives, including fake bridges and airfields were constructed. Many of the decoy planes were so good that NATO claimed that the Yugoslav air force had been decimated. After the war, it turned out its entire airforce had survived unscathed.
Fake tanks were built using plastic sheeting, old tires, and logs. To mimic heat emissions, cans were filled with sand and fuel and set alight. Hundreds of these makeshift decoys were bombed, leading to wildly inflated destruction claims.
Bridges and other strategic targets were defended from missiles with laser-guidance systems by bonfires made of old tires and wet hay, which emit dense smoke filled with laser-reflecting particles.
U.S. bombs equipped with GPS guidance proved vulnerable to old electronic jammers that blocked their links with satellites.
Despite NATO's total air supremacy, Yugoslav jets flew combat missions over Kosovo at extremely low altitudes, using terrain to remain undetected by AWACS flying radars.
Weapons that performed well in Afghanistan ? Predator drones, Apache attack choppers and C-130 Hercules gunships ? proved ineffective in Kosovo. Drones were easy targets for 1940s-era Hispano-Suisa anti-aircraft cannons, and C-130s and Apaches were considered too vulnerable to be deployed.
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PersianKitty 03-21-2003 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dazzling
Although Janes recoreds on Tomahawks are nearly 12 months old, you must acknowledge the FACT also that Tomahawks block production takes around FOUR years!
There are NO orders at the moment for tomahawks becuse they are in process of upgrading the production to the new level Tomahawks!

Actually they keep saying "tomahawk cruise missiles" but I wonder if they mean cruise missiles overall of which there are several types.

CosmicKitten 03-21-2003 11:51 AM

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PersianKitty 03-21-2003 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by dazzling
This, combined with the loss of stealth characteristics when the jets got wet or opened their bomb bays, made them shine on radar screens.

Kinda reminds me of the Romulan Bird of Prey.

Nickatilynx 03-21-2003 11:54 AM

Carrie,

I love the people of the US. And am happy that coalition casualties have been minimal.

But I think that they have made a major error of judgement.

There will probably be 20 million young people (kids and young teens) throughout the Middle East that will grow up despising the west.

We have created a sword over the head of our children.And it is a scimitar. :(

PersianKitty 03-21-2003 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
Carrie,

I love the people of the US. And am happy that coalition casualties have been minimal.

But I think that they have made a major error of judgement.

There will probably be 20 million young people (kids and young teens) throughout the Middle East that will grow up despising the west.

We have created a sword over the head of our children.And it is a scimitar. :(

And there aren't 20 million young people in the West growing up hating the people of the Middle East because of 9/11? Not saying one is worse than the other, but hell... Saddam had warning at least.

Sly_RJ 03-21-2003 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
There will probably be 20 million young people (kids and young teens) throughout the Middle East that will grow up despising the west.

Even after they no longer need to fear saying the wrong words? Or wearing the wrong clothes? Or voting for someone other than the current President?

CDSmith 03-21-2003 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
And there aren't 20 million young people in the West growing up hating the people of the Middle East because of 9/11? Not saying one is worse than the other, but hell... Saddam had warning at least.
Yes, and thusly there will be a *sword* dangling above the heads of the "20 million middle east children"....... except it's not a sword, it's a tactical nuke.

gregtx 03-21-2003 11:59 AM

good point Nick...

but
This was a decision that no one wanted to have to ultimately make... but the ugly side is.... if we sat back and did nothing... and another attack like 9/11 came.. who takes the blame for not doing more???

CDSmith 03-21-2003 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Even after they no longer need to fear saying the wrong words? Or wearing the wrong clothes? Or voting for someone other than the current President?
Have women even been allowed to vote in Iraq? I doubt it.

Soon, and when they do hopefully all those mothers will pass their appreciation of what the USA did for them on to their children.

Mutt 03-21-2003 12:01 PM

Nick what you say may be true but the other options were worse.
Do you think 9/11 wasn't going to happen again? That we had years to let the CIA go to work to root this shit out? The U.N is useless, nobody was going to do shit about anything.

Bush is taking out a despicable regime that nobody else in the world would or could - he should be applauded. If this riles up those fucking terrorists so be it. We didn't start this fire, they did.

And about the U.S. losing respect around the world. Losing France and Germany's, amongst others respect is a badge of honor.

Easton 03-21-2003 12:04 PM

seems like i picked a good thread to get spot #2... :glugglug

sherie 03-21-2003 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut


A woman wouldn't have fucked things up this bad. She would have simply nagged the shit out Saddam and he would have eventually felt so emotionally screwed over, he would have had no hope but to give up his evil ways.

LOL it's not she you see, it's the other people in Power that think they are gods!

Nickatilynx 03-21-2003 12:07 PM

PK,

"""And there aren't 20 million young people in the West growing up hating the people of the Middle East because of 9/11? Not saying one is worse than the other, but hell... Saddam had warning at least."""

Not to the same extent,PK.

Our youngsters will switch off there colour TVs,jump into there dads benz and drive to Starbucks and spend 5.50 for a coffee light a cigarette and talk about last weeks Survivor

The kids in the Middle East on the other hand will walk barefoot to a standing pipe and drink some tainted water. and brood about the people that killed there cousin.

Nickatilynx 03-21-2003 12:11 PM

"""but
This was a decision that no one wanted to have to ultimately make... but the ugly side is.... if we sat back and did nothing... and another attack like 9/11 came.. who takes the blame for not doing more???

"""

Greg,

Very valid point indeed.

But there is a gamut of options between that attack and doing nothing.

Easton 03-21-2003 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
Our youngsters will switch off there colour TVs,jump into there dads benz and drive to Starbucks and spend 5.50 for a coffee light a cigarette and talk about last weeks Survivor
coffee is up to $5.50? tell me that's not US$ too

dayum, good thing i don't drink coffee or smoke... LOL

PersianKitty 03-21-2003 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
PK,

"""And there aren't 20 million young people in the West growing up hating the people of the Middle East because of 9/11? Not saying one is worse than the other, but hell... Saddam had warning at least."""

Not to the same extent,PK.

Our youngsters will switch off there colour TVs,jump into there dads benz and drive to Starbucks and spend 5.50 for a coffee light a cigarette and talk about last weeks Survivor

The kids in the Middle East on the other hand will walk barefoot to a standing pipe and drink some tainted water. and brood about the people that killed there cousin.

If Iraq wasn't held by a greedy asshole, the people of their country will flourish in the same way the people of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia have for years. When every bit of money the country has isn't spent on huge palace compounds inlayed with gold, etc... they'll be riding in Benzies also. Have you seen the streets of Kuwait? There's more luxury cars then Beverly Hills.

PersianKitty 03-21-2003 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Easton


coffee is up to $5.50? tell me that's not US$ too

dayum, good thing i don't drink coffee or smoke... LOL

Starbucks Venti Latte with Irish Cream and whipped cream in Seattle is $3.76 (tax included).

Easton 03-21-2003 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx
But there is a gamut of options between that attack and doing nothing.
REALLY?

gamut is defined as "a complete extent or range" in the dictionary

i'd love for you to list that so-called "gamut" of options...

does one involve sending in the french? :1orglaugh

Easton 03-21-2003 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
Starbucks Venti Latte with Irish Cream and whipped cream in Seattle is $3.76 (tax included).
jeezus... thanks for the heads up on that... that's like $5.70 cdn


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