Is magic dead?

[just a punk]

I'm loving magic tricks since I was a kid, but it seems the real magicians are gone. I've tried to watch some shows of modern "magicians" (e.g. Troy and Dynamo) on Discovery channel and was very disappointed and bored. All their so-called tricks are so childish and easy (in most cases I don't even need to rewind a video to tell how exactly it was done). What's wrong with this world? Do the people got dumber than 20 or 30 years ago? Is the real magic dead and there are no professional illusionists who can make us to believe?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'm loving magic tricks since I was a kid, but it seems the real magicians are gone. I've tried to watch some shows of modern "magicians" (e.g. Troy and Dynamo) on Discovery channel and was very disappointed and bored. All their so-called tricks are so childish and easy (in most cases I don't even need to rewind a video to tell how exactly it was done). What's wrong with this world? Do the people got dumber than 20 or 30 years ago? Is the real magic dead and there are no professional illusionists who can make us to believe?

Have you seen the Carbonaro effect? He's pretty awesome.

[$money$]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Have you seen the Carbonaro effect? He's pretty awesome.

I love that show the girlfriend on other hand thinks its tacky

[SBJ]

I LOVE this movie about magic! Might have to pop the blu ray in tonight.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Have you seen the Carbonaro effect? He's pretty awesome.

Could you please post a link to the video (if you meant some specific one). Is it also a Discovery channel show or something different?

[MiamiBoyz]

Yes, and so is god

[Dead]

Originally Posted by miamiboyz

yes, and so is god

still loading trucks?

[arock10]

I have been enjoying playing Magic the gathering on Xbox

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by Dead

still loading trucks?

Still licking your mom's clit?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by arock10

I have been enjoying playing Magic the gathering on Xbox

It's fun to play it in a person with the real MTG cards

P.S. Could somebody post a video of the trick which makes to believe in magic?

[ITraffic]

thread closed.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by SBJ

I LOVE this movie about magic! Might have to pop the blu ray in tonight.

There's a sequel coming out this year.

[The Porn Nerd]

I don't like movies about magic. It's too easy to fool/fuck with the audience using editing tricks and so on.

The Mind Freak dude is pretty cool.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

thread closed.

So where is the magic?

at 0:57 he takes that card from the deck and puts it into his pocket to get it out in the next second.
at 1:08 he puts that signed card into his pocket again, pulls up some other card and inserts it into the deck. So the signed car is in his pocket again. What a surprise?
and so forth (I have closed the video after that)...

Sorry, but that's just a boring performance for small kids. Could you please post some real magic trick?

Edit: Ah, it was Damian (that's why I thought I saw that face somewhere)... Ok then He should focus on something different, because his magician skills are on the same level as my skills in ballet: ZERO

[Idigmygirls]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'm loving magic tricks since I was a kid, but it seems the real magicians are gone. I've tried to watch some shows of modern "magicians" (e.g. Troy and Dynamo) on Discovery channel and was very disappointed and bored. All their so-called tricks are so childish and easy (in most cases I don't even need to rewind a video to tell how exactly it was done). What's wrong with this world? Do the people got dumber than 20 or 30 years ago? Is the real magic dead and there are no professional illusionists who can make us to believe?

A couple of years ago I saw Chris Angel's live show in Las Vegas. I'd like to know your thoughts on his stuff, but from my totally uniformed point of view, it was the most mind-blowing magic I've ever seen!

Honestly, when he throws handkerchiefs into the air, then they turn into doves and fly over the audience and right into the back wall, and as soon as they "hit" the back wall, they turn into video doves and "fly away" I was just stunned.

When he asks people in the audience for numbers and then has someone from the audience open a box that was chained to the ceiling, they unchain, unlock the box, pull out a sealed envelope and tear it open to find a piece of paper with the numbers on it, like wtf?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Idigmygirls

A couple of years ago I saw Chris Angel's live show in Las Vegas. I'd like to know your thoughts on his stuff, but from my totally uniformed point of view, it was the most mind-blowing magic I've ever seen!

The only magician whose show I have visited in Vegas was David Copperfield. To be honest, I was very disappointed with his performance. I've expected something "wow", but it was too lame. As about Chris Angel, so I don't even know that name (sorry). Please feel free to post some videos of his tricks.

Originally Posted by Idigmygirls

Honestly, when he throws handkerchiefs into the air, then they turn into doves and fly over the audience and right into the back wall, and as soon as they "hit" the back wall, they turn into video doves and "fly away" I was just stunned.

I need to see it by myself (at least on video) to comment.

Originally Posted by Idigmygirls

When he asks people in the audience for numbers and then has someone from the audience open a box that was chained to the ceiling, they unchain, unlock the box, pull out a sealed envelope and tear it open to find a piece of paper with the numbers on it, like wtf?

That's a very simple and old trick. David Copperfield did it too.

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

That's like a scene of Gandalf fighting the Balrog The edited video is shown from different points of view. I can't see what he's doing when camera switches to that woman's face and back every second (his hands are out of the screen almost all the time). That's is not a trick at all. That's just a special effect.

[Idigmygirls]

Here's one from Criss Angel:

[klinton]

the biggest magic is to bitch and offend Americans on american forum and later expect to/sell them products that they will buy........:winkwink ::1orglaug h

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by klinton

the biggest magic is to bitch and offend Americans on american forum and later expect to/sell them products that they will buy........:winkwink ::1orglaug h

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by candyflip

There's a sequel coming out this year.

Yup I saw that awhile back. I'm torn cause half the time the 2nd is not as good and this seems like the type of movie that the 2nd one could really suck.

[onwebcam]

Yes the days of convincing people you walked on water are dead. Merry Christmas!

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by klinton

the biggest magic is to bitch and offend Americans on american forum and later expect to/sell them products that they will buy........:winkwink ::1orglaug h

I thought this thread is about magic and not about Americans. Make another thread if you want to bitch and offend them or anybody you want.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Idigmygirls

Here's one from Criss Angel:

Here is the right way to embed youtube videos (use it's id only instead of the whole URL):



as about the trick, so it's very simple. There gate has movable sections that unlock when the guy behind pushes them.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

What's wrong with this world? Do the people got dumber than 20 or 30 years ago? Is the real magic dead and there are no professional illusionists who can make us to believe?

Wrong logic, it is the opposite - in the "dark days" there were less information (no internet, lol) so all the tricks were mysterious and it was wow. Nowadays everyone is "smart" and "knows it all" due to the abundance of information.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Wrong logic, it is the opposite - in the "dark days" there were less information (no internet, lol) so all the tricks were mysterious and it was wow. Nowadays everyone is "smart" and "knows it all" due to the abundance of information.

Hmm, I don't think it somehow related to the Internet. I've made this thread because I've tried to watch the modern magicians on TV and caught myself that I can see how they do all their tricks. I don't need the Internet for that. I just see it. So, I still think its a degradation.

On the other hand, I still believe there are many real masters around the globe, but for some reason they are not invited into the popular shows. If that's true, it proves that average TV auditory got dumber.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Hmm, I don't think it somehow related to the Internet. I've made this thread because I've tried to watch the modern magicians on TV and caught myself that I can see how they do all their tricks. I don't need the Internet for that. I just see it. So, I still think its a degradation.

Point was not the internet, point was that nowadays (due to the abundance of information mostly) people know much more, they are just "smarter" in the sense that it was like dark ages even 50 years ago.
Take any 14 year old kid from 1950 and 2015 and you understand what I mean (I hope, since you expose yourself as not capable of thinking).
Like this guy posted:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Yes the days of convincing people you walked on water are dead. Merry Christmas!

Back in the days magic was magic (had more respect and was something wow) and nowadays people just look at it as a trick that they need to crack. It is all due to the information times we live in, not due to people being dumber as you dumbly suggested in OP.

[klinton]

yeah, right

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Point was not the internet, point was that nowadays (due to the abundance of information mostly) people know much more, they are just "smarter" in the sense that it was like dark ages even 50 years ago.

[klinton]

there you go Comrad.

real magic still does exist but only in Russia

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I thought this thread is about magic and not about Americans. Make another thread if you want to bitch and offend them or anybody you want.

[just a punk]

It still would be interesting to look at some trick which has no express explanation.

[BIGTYMER]

[slapass]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It still would be interesting to look at some trick which has no express explanation.

You do understand that magic doesn't exist right? So it is angles, mirrors and fakery. Is there really anything you don't understand about that? It is like oil painting. No big mystery is left so no one is amazed.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by slapass

You do understand that magic doesn't exist right? So it is angles, mirrors and fakery. Is there really anything you don't understand about that? It is like oil painting. No big mystery is left so no one is amazed.

Doesn't matter what t is. The only thing that matters is if you say "wow! how it was done?"

[Penny24Seven]

You say people are getting dumber LOL Fact is people are smarter and these tricks do not fool people like before and people do not believe in magic like that once did in the past because the internet ruins all secrets so anything can be found out.
It doesn't take much to figure that out. Well except for you could not do that and needed to make a thread for help.
Hey look I found a quarter behind your ear. I bet you fall for that one still

[arock10]

I miss the days where all these people would just be burned at the stake for their witchcraft

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

thread closed.

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[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

as about the trick, so it's very simple. There gate has movable sections that unlock when the guy behind pushes them.

Dont be silly. There were a load of unbiased strangers present to act ass witnesses. They examined the gate and it was real. They said so!

Plus his own mum didn't know how he did it and had to ask him! She would have looked at the gate herself and seen any hidden hinges. It was real Real magic. FACT!

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Dead

still loading trucks?

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Still licking your mom's clit?

What's going on here?

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by arock10

I miss the days where all these people would just be burned at the stake for their witchcraft

Me too! Unholy nonsense is what this is.

Don't mess with the dark side or Jesus will cum back and fuck you up yo!

[romeo22]

I miss the magic when i was boy and i believed the santa is real.sometimes Its good to see same good magic trick buy you know they are lieing yur eyes

[SpicyM]

Most of them are actually camera tricks with fake audience.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Most of them are actually camera tricks with fake audience.

Exactly. Almost all those magicians from Discovery channel use fake bystanders. I did tricks like this when I was a 8 year old boy:



In 80's they were working fine for other kids, but not for adults. Can't believe they work nowadays.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

[Youtube ^^^[/Youtube]

LOLZ YouTube Magic for the feed me BS generation

good camera tricks ... I was ROFLMAO

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Most of them are actually camera tricks with fake audience.

No you are quite wrong. They are not allowed to do that because it would be illegal

[woj]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Most of them are actually camera tricks with fake audience.

most actually are not, most respected magicians wouldn't resort to bullshit tricks like that...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by woj

most actually are not, most respected magicians wouldn't resort to bullshit tricks like that...

Ok the, please just tell me the names of those "respected magicians". I'm asking for the names because those I've seen on TV are using fake bystanders and I can prove it.

P.S. Those bastards kill birds for their "ticks" (yeah, I see how it was done). I wish them rot in hell, sick motherfuckers.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Ok the, please just tell me the names of those "respected magicians". I'm asking for the names because those I've seen on TV are using fake bystanders and I can prove it.

P.S. Those bastards kill birds for their "ticks" (yeah, I see how it was done). I wish them rot in hell, sick motherfuckers.

Are there any famous russian magicians or are all the great magicians Americans, like Houdini, Copperfield, Penn and teller, Siegfried and Roy, David Blaine.. etc?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Are there any famous russian magicians or are all the great magicians Americans, like Houdini, Copperfield, Penn and teller, Siegfried and Roy, David Blaine.. etc

I have no idea. Maybe Emil Kio or Wolf Messing (this guy is much more famous in the World's history than all that names together you have posted above), but I don't really care about their citizenship. I'm talking about the modern magic industry in general. I don't care of they are northern americans, southern americans or africans. Just give me a name of the one who doesn't use fake bystanders in his/her shows nowadays.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I have no idea. Maybe Emil Kio or Wolf Messing (this guy is much more famous in the World's history than all that names together you have posted above), but I don't really care about citizenship. I'm talking about the modern magic industry in general. I don't care of they are northern americans, southern americans or africans. Just give me a name of the one who doesn't use fake bystanders in his/her shows nowadays.

That's like brassmonkey saying he doesnt care about race