I'd say my favorites so far are:

GalleryCo-op.com
xxxgalleryreviews.com

I'd welcome any other comments/suggestions :) We need a name that does NOT look like the name of a TGP and ideally it will describe the service.

sounds like a good idea!

Here's some FAQs re the Gallery Reviewing Co-op taken from my e-mail and ICQ discussions over the past few days:

Q) Do you have a definite plan yet?.

A) No, we're still working out the details and thus any of the current details are potentially subject to change. One of my main priorities at the moment is to get a list of people who are interested in participating so that we can finalize the details, allocate tasks to particular people and get the project moving.

Q) Will I get paid for reviewing galleries?

A) You won't receive any cash. But if you're a TGP webmaster you'll save an enormous amount of time by having access to our entire pool of pre-reviewed galleries in exchange for reviewing just one category daily. And if you're a gallery poster you'll probably be permitted to submit one gallery per day to the pool *provided* they meet our selection standards. You will not be permitted to submit your galleries to the category that you're reviewing.

Q) How do I join the Co-op?

A) E-mail groove [a] carnalia.com .

If you're interested in reviewing, please tell me which category/s you'd like to review and send 10 URLs for galleries that you think are seriously HOT! These sample URLs will provide an indication of your ability to identify galleries which will be liked by surfers and TGP webmasters alike. Please note they'll be easier to assess if they're all from the same niche.

If you want a management role please tell me about your skills, qualifications, experience, etc and let me know how you think you could best assist.

If you own a medium/high traffic TGP (ie. 20k+ uniques/day) and want to use the galleries, please send the URL of your TGP and stats. Medium/large TGPs will NOT be required to do any reviewing, but places may be limited.

Q) I'm new to TGPs, can I join the Co-op?

A) You'll need to have had some significant experience as a TGP submitter, reviewer or webmaster. It's unlikely that you will be able to assist if you're a total TGP newbie. Thanks for you understanding.

Q) When are you going to launch?

A) As soon as we can. To a large degree that depends how much help I get, as I also have a lot of other demands on my time at the moment.

Q) I'm a programmer can I help?

A) We've already had several generous offers of help from programmers. But you never know when we might need some more help, so by all means send me your details.

Q) I sent you an e-mail 5-hours ago! When are you going to reply?

A) I have many other demands on my time other than this project. If I have not replied to your e-mail it hasn't made it to the top of my list yet. I will reply as soon as I get an opportunity. Please be patient.

Q) Will you be accepting sponsor hosted galleries?

A) No.

Q) I have another question?

A) Have you read this thread yet? Many of the people who have been asking me questions apparently haven't read it. If you can't find an answer in the thread, please post your question to the thread. If you need to talk to me privately my ICQ# is 11041152 and my e-mail address is in my sig.

Hey Groove. Just letting you know I am back up and running on the board
.....and you have email

:)

-T

I believe a BUMP is in order.

Welcome back from exile :)

Got the e-mails will reply shortly.

Damn, this got buried fast. So,
Bump :)

How do you spell BUMP?

So what's the deal? Groove, you got a domain name yet? Has the coding started yet?

I'll probably register a domain today. But first I want to find time to see if I can find any better domain names. At the moment the front runners are GalleryCo-op.com and xxxgalleryreviews.com.

Other suggestions will be gratefully received. Please note that I don't want a name that sounds like a TGP and ideally the name will describe the service.

My first priority is to assemble a core group of volunteers. I currently have six definites, but I'm still waiting on sample galleries from several others [hint, hint!]. Those of you who've recently sent me e-mails, I promise to reply in the next 24 hours.

As for the coding, I'm exploring the possibility of implementing a more sophisticated version of the project than originally discussed and won't be commissioning any code until it's clear what functionality is needed. I also need to checkout xtoolbox.com to see if we can partner in some way, but their server is presently not accessible.

Originally posted by Groove:
"I'll probably register a domain today. But first I want to find time to see if I can find any better domain names. At the moment the front runners are GalleryCo-op.com and xxxgalleryreviews.com."

I vote for xxxgalleryreviews.com =)
I think it has good marketing quality!

Krystal

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If you're interested in reviewing, please tell me which category/s you'd like to review and send 10 URLs for galleries that you think are seriously HOT! These sample URLs will provide an indication of your ability to identify galleries which will be liked by surfers and TGP webmasters alike. Please note they'll be easier to assess if they're all from the same niche

Yeah this is a great idea I'm gonna make something like this. A thumb network.

Both of those are lengthy. I suggest catchy, unique, short, obvious. Can't post a (good) unregistered domain here, or it'll be gone in moments.

There seems to be an echo in here! :)

Reviewer positions are still available. But please be aware that at some stage in the not too distant future we'll begin recruiting on other boards and when the positions are filled, that's it, there will be no more available unless someone drops out. So if you're interested in particating NOW is the time to put your hand up!

Please send your sample URLs to:

groove [a] carnalia.com

No free sponsor content please.

Im surprised that no-one has actually purchased those domains already from the first day this thread was posted.

BUMP.

Regards,

Lee

You're absolutely right!

GFY is a land of thieves and degenerates :feels-hot

Please send any domain suggestions to:

groove [a] carnalia.com.

I think that should be left to the reviewer's discretion.
There are so many quality sites out there now that shoot thier own content that you'd be missing out on some great pics and vids for your bookmarkers by not listing it.

I have a small (20K) TGP that gets about 400-500 submits a day. I get a SHITLOAD of nasty dollars galleries. What's even worse than it being the same content over and over is that most of the webmasters are just copying the ND hosted gallery to thier server and adding recips. I can see why you wouldn't want to list those.

But Scoreland has the best big tit content in the world that your surfers will never see just because the sponsor gave it to the gallery builder instead of him buying a CD?

SCC has some of the best amateur teen content on the web, and in the past week I've received a total of 1 gallery with their content on it.
In that same time period I've received 100's of galleries with low quality zip content and rock bottom content in the amateur and teens category. Which of these 2 galleries do you think your bookmarkers would rather come back to see every day?

Another example, Blacks on Blondes has the best interracial content for galleries out there. Its free sponsor content, I get a handful of these galleries a day.
On the other hand, I've seen that same set of Sylvia Saint and Mr Marcus so many time I want to puke. But since that's paid for content I should list it instead of the BOB gallery?

If you're going to have one reviewer for each category then they'll be able to keep up with what content has been listed how many times. They should be looking for quality content and not care who provided it to the gallery builder.

My :2 cents: :2 cents:

OK, the deed is done... I've registered:

GalleryGurus.com

It's not the quality of sponsor content that concerns me. My concern is that free content inevitably becomes stale more rapidly than paid content. Plus many (most?) TGPs like to mix-in some sponsor galleries bearing their own affiliate code and I doubt that they'd appreciate us providing content they were intending to submit themselves!

And even if we were going to allow free sponsor content, why on earth would we let submitters post it when we could post it ourselves and make some money?

100 :glugglug

101.

damn! you win...:)

Just a thought, a co-op is typically not limited in size. You could make this thing huge though. Get your core group together. These are the people that would be making the decisions, promoting the co-op and getting the resources in order. Once those positions are filled, offer access to the hand reviewed high quality galleries for a small fee every month. You could use this money to expand the co-op, increase traffic, and even offer a small dividend to the co-op members.

I might be way off base here with your original intentions, but this definitely has the potential to go a long way. The only thing you'll have to work out right away is the business structure and who has control of the cash.

You can contact me on ICQ if you would like to discuss this further: 112898417 (I'm rarely on, unless I know someone needs to talk to me. If I don't respond, you can always send me a private message through the admin panel of GFY).

Funny you should say that :) I'm currently looking at an alternative model which would offer a no-frills service for free and a premium service for a monthly fee. I'll release details once I've had a chance to discuss the technical aspects with the programmer.

The reviewers and other volunteers will have access to the premium service for free and they'll also be permitted to submit one gallery per day provide that it meets our standards (note reviewers can't submit to a category that they review).

Anyone who wants to be a reviewer please contact me ASAP!

Yes but as I pointed out in my earlier post, there is a lot of high quality sponsor content that isn't overexposed.

In regards to posting sponsor hosted galleries or free content yourself, that's fine. But there's no way on earth you have an account with and have built galleries for every sponsor out there that has free content. So to reject all galleries that are using sponsor provided content is going a bit too far IMO.
It should be at the reviewers discretion, you just have to have good reviewers.

Another example would be this. A paysite owner I know builds and submits his own galleries with his own exclusive content that isn't made available to anyone else. But he uses a different domain for his galleries because the paysite is on an expensive multi homed host and the galleries are on cogent bandwidth.
He uses ccbill referral links on the galleries so he can keep track of how many sales the galleries generate as opposed to other forms of traffic.
To a reviewer, this looks like a reseller using sponsor content, so you would reject this gallery. But its a paysite owner trying to make a buck and giving you high quality exclusive content for your bookmarker's to whack it to.

I know the whole purpose of this thing is to make the TGP owner's life easier and to create some sort of global blacklist to help cut down on the cheating, but if you don't give gallery builders a fair chance to make a buck you're not going to get the submits you need to make this work.

My :2 cents: :2 cents:

Oh and in regards to a reviewer listing a gallery with the same content that the paysite owner was planning to use that day.

A) that could happen with paid content as well. Especially the inexpensive stuff.

B) almost all TGP owners that use hosted galleries list them above the submitted stuff anyways, so it still wouldn't hurt their chance at making a sale.

You make some good points :) But I'm still not convinced...

For every 1 sponsor gallery that's OK (ie. good quality and not over exposed) there will be 500 others that aren't. It's a bit like saying don't ban auto-submits because there are some good galleries submitted via auto-submits. Of course that's true, but you ban them because the vast majority are useless.

My other major concern is that I don't think that TGPs will be happy paying for the privilege of us feeding them sponsor galleries. I suppose I might consider using them as filler galleries when there's nothing else available, but then they'd be galleries with my sponsor code, not the submitter's.

As for an owner submitting exclusive content I'd have no problem with that. In fact if the galleries are any good, I think he'd be a prime candidate for a preferred poster account.

Anyway that's just my opinion. Nothing is set in stone at this stage. Ultimately the rules will be determined by a formula which strives to satisfy the needs of the widest possible range of TGPs without being unduly restrictive on the posters.

Does anyone else have any opinions about the merits or folly of accepting sponsor content?

Well Groove you know my opinion. I made my case and bottom line I think you just need good reviewers who know what's been over exposed and what's new and fresh. They need to have an eye for quality.

The surfer doesn't care who bought or sold the pics, its all about quality. By banning sponsor content outright you would

List pixmasters but decline Karups.

List rock bottom content but decline ATK.

List zip content but decline Socal Coeds.

And as far as I know, the 3 sponsors I listed above don't offer hosted galleries, so its not like you could cut and paste some code and make money yourself.

Most of your arguments are valid, but they ignore the fact that I also have to consider the wishes of the TGP owners and the efficiency of the reviewing process.

And what's to stop me from building my own galleries?

Nothing at all. Hell, you could just scrap this whole idea and list nothing but sponsor galleries and your own shit. Seems to be the fucking trend these days anyways :feels-hot

Just got back from vacation. Anything new on this Groove??

Krystal

what happened to this project?

if you want a job done right, you do it yourself