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Sparky 03-20-2003 07:07 PM

Hi,
I have a website that might fit your needs, its ww.ezupdater.com take a look and tell me what you think, its hosted with datahosters at the moment, but they are stopping all their virtual hosting so its gotts be moved to a new host soon. There is also a random gallery script that runs of the archives, If interested hit me up on ICQ 87169697
All the best
m@rk

NineNine 03-20-2003 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Groove


[Something about auto submitting....]

I agree. But I'm not really sure how many different TGP scripts are out there. If there are a lot, this might be tedious for the programmer. At the least, the forms can all be automated with hahahahahahahahahaha, but this might still be a decent bit of work. If whoever codes this decides not to do this, or if there are too many different script (mine, for example, is a completely custom one that I wrote), something really, really basic should be done to send out the galleries. A text file attachment I think would be the most basic, lowest common denominator. Then people like me could just import the file into our databases.

Another thing to consider is that everybody has different categories, so some kind of standard category list would have to be created.

And one more thing... would it be a more flexible system if, say, for every day that a webmaster did reviews, that webmaster earned credits that allowed for use of galleries? ie: a webmaster reviewed and approved 10 galleries for 30 days, so they'd be entitled to 30 days worth of galleries to be sent to them. Just another idea.

Groove 03-20-2003 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sparky
Hi,
I have a website that might fit your needs, its ww.ezupdater.com take a look and tell me what you think, its hosted with datahosters at the moment, but they are stopping all their virtual hosting so its gotts be moved to a new host soon. There is also a random gallery script that runs of the archives, If interested hit me up on ICQ 87169697
All the best
m@rk

A rotating gallery pool is *NOT* what I am talking about. There are numerous such services and there's also an ever-growing pool of hosted galleries. The problem with these galleries is that they're invariably stale, overused and low quality.

I am seeking to establish a service which will provide ULTRA HIGH QUALITY, freshly submitted, hand-reviewed galleries on a daily basis.

Please go and spam someone else's thread!

Groove 03-20-2003 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
I agree. But I'm not really sure how many different TGP scripts are out there. If there are a lot, this might be tedious for the programmer. At the least, the forms can all be automated with hahahahahahahahahaha, but this might still be a decent bit of work. If whoever codes this decides not to do this, or if there are too many different script (mine, for example, is a completely custom one that I wrote), something really, really basic should be done to send out the galleries. A text file attachment I think would be the most basic, lowest common denominator. Then people like me could just import the file into our databases.
Yep, I agree that e-mailed files are ESSENTIAL. It's a feature that would be easy to implement and universally compatible.

Whereas the auto-submits are highly desirable, but they're not essential. I'm really just suggesting that we explore the viability of adding this feature. Auto-submits are of course possible because that's what galley submit scripts do. So it's really a matter of whether it's too much drama to code.

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Another thing to consider is that everybody has different categories, so some kind of standard category list would have to be created.
Yep.

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And one more thing... would it be a more flexible system if, say, for every day that a webmaster did reviews, that webmaster earned credits that allowed for use of galleries? ie: a webmaster reviewed and approved 10 galleries for 30 days, so they'd be entitled to 30 days worth of galleries to be sent to them. Just another idea.
Interesting idea, I had not thought of that. But I think that this would make it very difficult to determine how many reviewers are needed. Plus I believe that there's a great advantage in giving someone exclusive responsibility for a specific category. That way they're totally accountable -- if the galleries are crap, or if they fail to review the galleries we know who's head to kick :)

Sparky 03-20-2003 08:38 PM

You idiot I was offering the website ezupdater.com with all its features for free ... I wasn't spamming ... damn this is the reason why I don't post here ... if you had taken the time to look at the site you might of realised it fits what you are describing, I mentioned the gallery rotater because its just an extra feature of the site, fuck you moron ... whats the old saying, never look a gifthorse in the mouth ...

Sparky 03-20-2003 08:45 PM

Why in hells name would I spam a free resource, anyway as I said its hosted with datahosters and I didn't want to move it to another host, so if you could of used the scripts which Simon Balk has done to fit around AutoGalleryMySql I was going to give you it for free as I thought you had come up with a good idea ... some people ...

Spunky 03-20-2003 08:45 PM

You guys have way too many rules and you seem to ignore ICQ messages anyways and seem alittle to arrogant...not interested:Kissmy

grand 03-20-2003 08:57 PM

Hi

I'd be interested in reviewing galleries, can you explain how this would work..... ( i.e. how many galleries would I receive/day, how many would I need to accept, can I post my own galleries......)

also about your idea in general, how many tgps do you plan to accept, how much traffic will you offer to galleries, also how do you plan to attract quality galleries......

thanks

grand

Groove 03-20-2003 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sparky
You idiot I was offering the website ezupdater.com with all its features for free ... I wasn't spamming ... damn this is the reason why I don't post here ... if you had taken the time to look at the site you might of realised it fits what you are describing, I mentioned the gallery rotater because its just an extra feature of the site, fuck you moron ... whats the old saying, never look a gifthorse in the mouth ...
Your post looked like spam, so I treated it as such.

There was no mention of you donating the script!

I am not a mind reader!

stanton 03-20-2003 09:36 PM

no

stanton 03-20-2003 09:37 PM

50 !!!!!!!:1orglaugh

Groove 03-20-2003 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
You guys have way too many rules and you seem to ignore ICQ messages anyways and seem alittle to arrogant...not interested:Kissmy
Are you talking to me? :uhoh

Groove 03-20-2003 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grand
I'd be interested in reviewing galleries,
I just spoke to grand by ICQ and it seems that he is not a TGP owner so there is probably not much incentive for him to participate. He did however raise some interesting questions in this post so I will answer them regardless.

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can you explain how this would work.....
The best indication of how this will work is contained in this thread. At this stage it is merely a broad concept which I'm hoping others will help to flesh out.

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( i.e. how many galleries would I receive/day,
There is no way to predict this, it depends entirely on how many sumbissions we receive to your category.

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how many would I need to accept,
Possibly 10.

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can I post my own galleries......)
Tricky question. My qualified answer... only if there is some way of allowing this practice that does not compromise the quality if the galleries. My gut feeling is that it would not be appropriate. But I am certainly open to other points of view :)

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also about your idea in general, how many tgps do you plan to accept,
As stated twice previously in this thread... My proposal is that there be one reviewer per category. When the categories are filled we will not accept any additional reviewers. Of course new positions will continue to become available as we kick people to the kerb for being unreliable or approving shitty galleries. I also suggested that the medium/large TGPs be restricted to say 20 participants.

So all-up we might have 20-30 reviewers from small sites using the galleries, plus 20 medium/large TGPs, plus five managers.

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how much traffic will you offer to galleries,
If we were able to recruit 20 medium/large TGPs (20k+ uniques/day) we'd have a minimum of 400k uniques/day.

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also how do you plan to attract quality galleries......
If we can generate enough traffic for the galleries it should be no problem to attract quality submissions.

NineNine 03-21-2003 05:18 PM

About webmasters submitting their own... actually, that might not be a bad idea. If somebody wants to submit thier own galleries, that's fine by me. I don't care who they come from. If I want gallery space in my TGP, that's easy enough to do. I say why not? As long as the reviews stay objective, and that's gonna be the trick... then like I said, I don't really care where the galleries come from. But that's just my opinion...

Groove 03-21-2003 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
About webmasters submitting their own... actually, that might not be a bad idea. If somebody wants to submit thier own galleries, that's fine by me. I don't care who they come from. If I want gallery space in my TGP, that's easy enough to do. I say why not? As long as the reviews stay objective, and that's gonna be the trick... then like I said, I don't really care where the galleries come from. But that's just my opinion...
I have no problem with the notion of reviewers submitting their own galleries, in fact I believe that it would be a good thing, *PROVIDED* that it doesn't compromise the quality of the galleries. But how do we ensure that the reviews are objective? And how do you tell a reviewer that their galleries are shit without offending them and making them less committed to the Co-op? These are the issues that concern me.

Any suggestions?

Groove 03-21-2003 09:56 PM

Can anyone suggest a better name than GalleryCo-op.com? I like the fact that this name clearly describes the project. But before I register it, I thought that I'd check if anyone has a better idea.

nap 03-21-2003 10:12 PM

I would love to review. You all wouldnt even have to pay me. Since you stated that you need people to review certain niche's i would be more than happy to look at black porn all day, review and pass along. Interracial whatever. This is a very good idea(especially for people trying to learn the in's and out's of the business/traffic). Great concept groove! :thumbsup

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NineNine 03-21-2003 10:41 PM

I don't think that the domain name matters at all really.

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Thats the NyQuil talking...

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Groove 03-21-2003 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
I don't think that the domain name matters at all really.
The name will affect how easy it is to promote and how easy it is to quickly communicate what the service is.

Briscoe 03-21-2003 11:07 PM

Groove,

You have e-mail from Content Girl :Note

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Groove 03-21-2003 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Briscoe
Groove,

You have e-mail from Content Girl :Note

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Yep, got LOT'S of mail from Content Girl :winkwink:

Have sent brief acknowledgement.

Will reply in detail shortly :)

Groove 03-22-2003 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap
I would love to review. You all wouldnt even have to pay me. Since you stated that you need people to review certain niche's i would be more than happy to look at black porn all day, review and pass along. Interracial whatever. This is a very good idea(especially for people trying to learn the in's and out's of the business/traffic). Great concept groove! :thumbsup
Hey nap, got your sample URLs :thumbsup

You should receive a reply in the next 24-hours.

Anyone else who's interested in reviewing, please send me an e-mail (see sig) with the theme/s you're interested in, plus 10 gallery URLs which you thing are really HOT. This will give me an idea of the type of galleries you're likely to approve.

Anyone interested in helping to manage the Co-op, please send me an idea of what skills, strengths and qualifications you have and how you think you could best assist.

If you own a medium/high traffic TGP (ie. 20k+ uniques/day) and want to use the galleries, please send the URL of your TGP and stats. Medium/large TGPs will not be required to do any reviewing.

Please be aware that we'll only be accepting a limited number of people into the Co-op. At this stage it looks like 20-30 reviewers, 5 managers, 20 medium/large TGPs. So if you want in, NOW is the time to say so!

Bad B0y 03-22-2003 12:53 AM

I am interested. I already have the infrastructure. A tgp-system with password proctected areas, instant messenger, basket system, multiple template system are some of the features. New features would not be a problem since I do the programming myself.

It would just be a matter of putting it on a new domain and it'll be set.

XSpider 03-22-2003 02:38 AM

Guys if you are interested in participating in this project send an email stating what you want to do and what your skills are, maybe also if you have experience to [email protected]
Much easyer to keep track if he has it all in his email box :)

Groove 03-22-2003 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bad B0y
I am interested. I already have the infrastructure. A tgp-system with password proctected areas, instant messenger, basket system, multiple template system are some of the features. New features would not be a problem since I do the programming myself.

It would just be a matter of putting it on a new domain and it'll be set.

Many thanks for an interesting and generous offer! :) I'd love to know more and maybe have a look at it in action. Is the script you're talking about the one at xToolbox.com? If so, I am unable to access the site, I get TCP errors.

Also, would I be able to run the script on my server?

genomega 03-22-2003 05:56 AM

I will review or hand submit for 10.00 per hour.

[email protected]
[email protected]

:)

DarkJedi 03-22-2003 06:17 AM

Why all the hassle ?
Just go to any worthy TGP and get their gallery listing.

AdultNex 03-22-2003 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Why all the hassle ?
Just go to any worthy TGP and get their gallery listing.

Like TheHun.com! :thumbsup

NineNine 03-22-2003 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Why all the hassle ?
Just go to any worthy TGP and get their gallery listing.

c-o-p-y-r-i-g-h-t... dumbass

DarkJedi 03-22-2003 07:05 AM

please.
even thehun was doing it.
www.elephantlist.com does it now. and many others.

NineNine 03-22-2003 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
please.
even thehun was doing it.
www.elephantlist.com does it now. and many others.

Ah well then, there you go. That makes it all right. Why don't you go right ahead and copy TheHun's listings and let us know what happens?

Groove 03-22-2003 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Why all the hassle ?
Just go to any worthy TGP and get their gallery listing.

Sure you can steal links from other TGPs but:

* you may be in breach of copyright law

* these sites are unlikely to trade traffic with you

* you will damage your reputation.

So sure it is an option :thumbsup Just like it's an option to steal someone's site design or their content! The fact that it's easy to do, does not make it an ethical or sensible strategy. The TGP biz is all about relationships do you really want to end-up with none of the major players wanting to do business with you?



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European Lee 03-22-2003 07:57 PM

If yoou need any customized programming drop an email to [email protected] im sure we would be abe to get you a sweet price with a quick turnaround time too :)

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 03-22-2003 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
Can anyone suggest a better name than GalleryCo-op.com? I like the fact that this name clearly describes the project. But before I register it, I thought that I'd check if anyone has a better idea.
tgpstartup.com maybe?

Regards,

Lee

nap 03-22-2003 08:38 PM

so did anyone come up with a good name?

Snazzy 03-22-2003 09:08 PM

I think the key to keeping galleries fresh is not to allow sponsor's content. Since so many Tom, Dick & Harri's are all using the free sponsor content - one of the rules should be obviously, no sponsor content. Any serious gallery designer should be able to afford to buy their own content for galleries anyhow, since there are plenty of places that sell cheap content..

Groove 03-22-2003 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snazzy
I think the key to keeping galleries fresh is not to allow sponsor's content. Since so many Tom, Dick & Harri's are all using the free sponsor content - one of the rules should be obviously, no sponsor content. Any serious gallery designer should be able to afford to buy their own content for galleries anyhow, since there are plenty of places that sell cheap content..
I totally agree :thumbsup


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