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50 !!!!!!!

Groove

Are you talking to me?

Groove

I just spoke to grand by ICQ and it seems that he is not a TGP owner so there is probably not much incentive for him to participate. He did however raise some interesting questions in this post so I will answer them regardless.

The best indication of how this will work is contained in this thread. At this stage it is merely a broad concept which I'm hoping others will help to flesh out.

There is no way to predict this, it depends entirely on how many sumbissions we receive to your category.

Possibly 10.

Tricky question. My qualified answer... only if there is some way of allowing this practice that does not compromise the quality if the galleries. My gut feeling is that it would not be appropriate. But I am certainly open to other points of view

As stated twice previously in this thread... My proposal is that there be one reviewer per category. When the categories are filled we will not accept any additional reviewers. Of course new positions will continue to become available as we kick people to the kerb for being unreliable or approving shitty galleries. I also suggested that the medium/large TGPs be restricted to say 20 participants.

So all-up we might have 20-30 reviewers from small sites using the galleries, plus 20 medium/large TGPs, plus five managers.

If we were able to recruit 20 medium/large TGPs (20k+ uniques/day) we'd have a minimum of 400k uniques/day.

If we can generate enough traffic for the galleries it should be no problem to attract quality submissions.

NineNine

About webmasters submitting their own... actually, that might not be a bad idea. If somebody wants to submit thier own galleries, that's fine by me. I don't care who they come from. If I want gallery space in my TGP, that's easy enough to do. I say why not? As long as the reviews stay objective, and that's gonna be the trick... then like I said, I don't really care where the galleries come from. But that's just my opinion...

Groove

I have no problem with the notion of reviewers submitting their own galleries, in fact I believe that it would be a good thing, *PROVIDED* that it doesn't compromise the quality of the galleries. But how do we ensure that the reviews are objective? And how do you tell a reviewer that their galleries are shit without offending them and making them less committed to the Co-op? These are the issues that concern me.

Any suggestions?

Groove

Can anyone suggest a better name than GalleryCo-op.com? I like the fact that this name clearly describes the project. But before I register it, I thought that I'd check if anyone has a better idea.

nap

I would love to review. You all wouldnt even have to pay me. Since you stated that you need people to review certain niche's i would be more than happy to look at black porn all day, review and pass along. Interracial whatever. This is a very good idea(especially for people trying to learn the in's and out's of the business/traffic). Great concept groove!

Briscoe

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tgphood.com
tgpforme.com
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NineNine

I don't think that the domain name matters at all really.

Briscoe

Kinda like "Go Fuck Yourself"

Thats the NyQuil talking...

My wife came up with a few more:

firstxxxtgp.com
topxxxtgp.com
best-xxx-tgp.com
bestxxxtgp.net
hotxxxtgp.com
hottestxxxtgp.com
xxxtgp4me.com
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www.1nolnytgp.com Available Click here to add to cart!

Groove

The name will affect how easy it is to promote and how easy it is to quickly communicate what the service is.

Briscoe

Groove,

You have e-mail from Content Girl

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Yep, got LOT'S of mail from Content Girl

Have sent brief acknowledgement.

Will reply in detail shortly

Groove

Hey nap, got your sample URLs

You should receive a reply in the next 24-hours.

Anyone else who's interested in reviewing, please send me an e-mail (see sig) with the theme/s you're interested in, plus 10 gallery URLs which you thing are really HOT. This will give me an idea of the type of galleries you're likely to approve.

Anyone interested in helping to manage the Co-op, please send me an idea of what skills, strengths and qualifications you have and how you think you could best assist.

If you own a medium/high traffic TGP (ie. 20k+ uniques/day) and want to use the galleries, please send the URL of your TGP and stats. Medium/large TGPs will not be required to do any reviewing.

Please be aware that we'll only be accepting a limited number of people into the Co-op. At this stage it looks like 20-30 reviewers, 5 managers, 20 medium/large TGPs. So if you want in, NOW is the time to say so!

Bad B0y

I am interested. I already have the infrastructure. A tgp-system with password proctected areas, instant messenger, basket system, multiple template system are some of the features. New features would not be a problem since I do the programming myself.

It would just be a matter of putting it on a new domain and it'll be set.

XSpider

Guys if you are interested in participating in this project send an email stating what you want to do and what your skills are, maybe also if you have experience to [email protected]
Much easyer to keep track if he has it all in his email box

Groove

Many thanks for an interesting and generous offer! I'd love to know more and maybe have a look at it in action. Is the script you're talking about the one at xToolbox.com? If so, I am unable to access the site, I get TCP errors.

Also, would I be able to run the script on my server?

genomega

I will review or hand submit for 10.00 per hour.

[email protected]
[email protected]

DarkJedi

Why all the hassle ?
Just go to any worthy TGP and get their gallery listing.

AdultNex

Like TheHun.com!

NineNine

c-o-p-y-r-i-g-h-t... dumbass

DarkJedi

please.
even thehun was doing it.
www.elephantlist.com does it now. and many others.

NineNine

Ah well then, there you go. That makes it all right. Why don't you go right ahead and copy TheHun's listings and let us know what happens?

Groove

Sure you can steal links from other TGPs but:

* you may be in breach of copyright law

* these sites are unlikely to trade traffic with you

* you will damage your reputation.

So sure it is an option Just like it's an option to steal someone's site design or their content! The fact that it's easy to do, does not make it an ethical or sensible strategy. The TGP biz is all about relationships do you really want to end-up with none of the major players wanting to do business with you?



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European Lee

If yoou need any customized programming drop an email to [email protected] im sure we would be abe to get you a sweet price with a quick turnaround time too

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tgpstartup.com maybe?

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nap

so did anyone come up with a good name?

Snazzy

I think the key to keeping galleries fresh is not to allow sponsor's content. Since so many Tom, Dick & Harri's are all using the free sponsor content - one of the rules should be obviously, no sponsor content. Any serious gallery designer should be able to afford to buy their own content for galleries anyhow, since there are plenty of places that sell cheap content..

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Groove

I totally agree

Groove

I'd say my favorites so far are:

GalleryCo-op.com
xxxgalleryreviews.com

I'd welcome any other comments/suggestions We need a name that does NOT look like the name of a TGP and ideally it will describe the service.

foreverjason

sounds like a good idea!

Groove

Here's some FAQs re the Gallery Reviewing Co-op taken from my e-mail and ICQ discussions over the past few days:

Q) Do you have a definite plan yet?.

A) No, we're still working out the details and thus any of the current details are potentially subject to change. One of my main priorities at the moment is to get a list of people who are interested in participating so that we can finalize the details, allocate tasks to particular people and get the project moving.

Q) Will I get paid for reviewing galleries?

A) You won't receive any cash. But if you're a TGP webmaster you'll save an enormous amount of time by having access to our entire pool of pre-reviewed galleries in exchange for reviewing just one category daily. And if you're a gallery poster you'll probably be permitted to submit one gallery per day to the pool *provided* they meet our selection standards. You will not be permitted to submit your galleries to the category that you're reviewing.

Q) How do I join the Co-op?

A) E-mail groove [a] carnalia.com .

If you're interested in reviewing, please tell me which category/s you'd like to review and send 10 URLs for galleries that you think are seriously HOT! These sample URLs will provide an indication of your ability to identify galleries which will be liked by surfers and TGP webmasters alike. Please note they'll be easier to assess if they're all from the same niche.

If you want a management role please tell me about your skills, qualifications, experience, etc and let me know how you think you could best assist.

If you own a medium/high traffic TGP (ie. 20k+ uniques/day) and want to use the galleries, please send the URL of your TGP and stats. Medium/large TGPs will NOT be required to do any reviewing, but places may be limited.

Q) I'm new to TGPs, can I join the Co-op?

A) You'll need to have had some significant experience as a TGP submitter, reviewer or webmaster. It's unlikely that you will be able to assist if you're a total TGP newbie. Thanks for you understanding.

Q) When are you going to launch?

A) As soon as we can. To a large degree that depends how much help I get, as I also have a lot of other demands on my time at the moment.

Q) I'm a programmer can I help?

A) We've already had several generous offers of help from programmers. But you never know when we might need some more help, so by all means send me your details.

Q) I sent you an e-mail 5-hours ago! When are you going to reply?

A) I have many other demands on my time other than this project. If I have not replied to your e-mail it hasn't made it to the top of my list yet. I will reply as soon as I get an opportunity. Please be patient.

Q) Will you be accepting sponsor hosted galleries?

A) No.

Q) I have another question?

A) Have you read this thread yet? Many of the people who have been asking me questions apparently haven't read it. If you can't find an answer in the thread, please post your question to the thread. If you need to talk to me privately my ICQ# is 11041152 and my e-mail address is in my sig.

Content Girl

Hey Groove. Just letting you know I am back up and running on the board
.....and you have email



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I believe a BUMP is in order.

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Groove

Welcome back from exile

Got the e-mails will reply shortly.

Content Girl

Damn, this got buried fast. So,
Bump

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NineNine

So what's the deal? Groove, you got a domain name yet? Has the coding started yet?

Groove

I'll probably register a domain today. But first I want to find time to see if I can find any better domain names. At the moment the front runners are GalleryCo-op.com and xxxgalleryreviews.com.

Other suggestions will be gratefully received. Please note that I don't want a name that sounds like a TGP and ideally the name will describe the service.

My first priority is to assemble a core group of volunteers. I currently have six definites, but I'm still waiting on sample galleries from several others [hint, hint!]. Those of you who've recently sent me e-mails, I promise to reply in the next 24 hours.

As for the coding, I'm exploring the possibility of implementing a more sophisticated version of the project than originally discussed and won't be commissioning any code until it's clear what functionality is needed. I also need to checkout xtoolbox.com to see if we can partner in some way, but their server is presently not accessible.

Content Girl

Originally posted by Groove:
"I'll probably register a domain today. But first I want to find time to see if I can find any better domain names. At the moment the front runners are GalleryCo-op.com and xxxgalleryreviews.com."

I vote for xxxgalleryreviews.com =)
I think it has good marketing quality!

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If you're interested in reviewing, please tell me which category/s you'd like to review and send 10 URLs for galleries that you think are seriously HOT! These sample URLs will provide an indication of your ability to identify galleries which will be liked by surfers and TGP webmasters alike. Please note they'll be easier to assess if they're all from the same niche

apscripts

Yeah this is a great idea I'm gonna make something like this. A thumb network.

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Both of those are lengthy. I suggest catchy, unique, short, obvious. Can't post a (good) unregistered domain here, or it'll be gone in moments.

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Groove

There seems to be an echo in here!

Reviewer positions are still available. But please be aware that at some stage in the not too distant future we'll begin recruiting on other boards and when the positions are filled, that's it, there will be no more available unless someone drops out. So if you're interested in particating NOW is the time to put your hand up!

Please send your sample URLs to:

groove [a] carnalia.com

No free sponsor content please.

European Lee

Im surprised that no-one has actually purchased those domains already from the first day this thread was posted.

BUMP.

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Groove

You're absolutely right!

GFY is a land of thieves and degenerates

Please send any domain suggestions to:

groove [a] carnalia.com.

Snake Doctor

I think that should be left to the reviewer's discretion.
There are so many quality sites out there now that shoot thier own content that you'd be missing out on some great pics and vids for your bookmarkers by not listing it.

I have a small (20K) TGP that gets about 400-500 submits a day. I get a SHITLOAD of nasty dollars galleries. What's even worse than it being the same content over and over is that most of the webmasters are just copying the ND hosted gallery to thier server and adding recips. I can see why you wouldn't want to list those.

But Scoreland has the best big tit content in the world that your surfers will never see just because the sponsor gave it to the gallery builder instead of him buying a CD?

SCC has some of the best amateur teen content on the web, and in the past week I've received a total of 1 gallery with their content on it.
In that same time period I've received 100's of galleries with low quality zip content and rock bottom content in the amateur and teens category. Which of these 2 galleries do you think your bookmarkers would rather come back to see every day?

Another example, Blacks on Blondes has the best interracial content for galleries out there. Its free sponsor content, I get a handful of these galleries a day.
On the other hand, I've seen that same set of Sylvia Saint and Mr Marcus so many time I want to puke. But since that's paid for content I should list it instead of the BOB gallery?

If you're going to have one reviewer for each category then they'll be able to keep up with what content has been listed how many times. They should be looking for quality content and not care who provided it to the gallery builder.

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Groove

OK, the deed is done... I've registered:

GalleryGurus.com

Groove

It's not the quality of sponsor content that concerns me. My concern is that free content inevitably becomes stale more rapidly than paid content. Plus many (most?) TGPs like to mix-in some sponsor galleries bearing their own affiliate code and I doubt that they'd appreciate us providing content they were intending to submit themselves!

And even if we were going to allow free sponsor content, why on earth would we let submitters post it when we could post it ourselves and make some money?