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Old 09-20-2015, 02:31 PM   #1
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Ask yourself this one question about the Syrian Refugee Crisis ...

Why aren't countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Qatar, etc taking in their Muslim "brothers and sisters" from countries like Syria? They can certainly afford it, and they are of the same faith.

Among our team members are several Muslims so we in general do not suffer from "Islamophobia" that many do. Ironically it was they that raised this very question.

While every person on earth deserves a better life, they also need to respect the law of the land in which they wish to live in. Much is happening in world and its only going to get worse. Most do not want to adapt to the local languages, tradition and ways. We know a adopted German teenager of French/Eqyptian decent, and he states that his Muslim classmates have become the majority in the school, refuse to do their class assignments, their parents do not support the teachers, and they continuously speak Arabic in school instead of German.

My parents are migrants that escaped communism in the early 60's, and fled to the former region known as Yugoslavia so that they can in turn seek asylum in Italy where they cooperated with local authorities. Their life journey eventually led them to a legal ticket to the US, for which I am forever grateful.

The heart breaks for those that are displaced by war, and we must do everything to help them. They in turn need to respect the people from whom they seek shelter. Sadly there is a dangerous mentality among men from certain countries which tolerates and even encourages little formal education, disrespect for general law and order, and places women in danger. For off the chart volatile crime statistics check out what has happened in Sweden.

Europe in general has changed over the last 20 years for the worse. Great for trade/business, but very bad for quality of life. Clearly unique traditions and customs have eroded. What is unfolding now -> if not managed correctly will destroy Europe as we know it.
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Why aren't countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Qatar, etc taking in their Muslim "brothers and sisters" from countries like Syria? They can certainly afford it, and they are of the same faith.

Among our team members are several Muslims so we in general do not suffer from "Islamophobia" that many do. Ironically it was they that raised this very question.

While every person on earth deserves a better life, they also need to respect the law of the land in which they wish to live in. Much is happening in world and its only going to get worse. Most do not want to adapt to the local languages, tradition and ways. We know a adopted German teenager of French/Eqyptian decent, and he states that his Muslim classmates have become the majority in the school, refuse to do their class assignments, their parents do not support the teachers, and they continuously speak Arabic in school instead of German.

My parents are migrants that escaped communism in the early 60's, and fled to the former region known as Yugoslavia so that they can in turn seek asylum in Italy where they cooperated with local authorities. Their life journey eventually led them to a legal ticket to the US, for which I am forever grateful.

The heart breaks for those that are displaced by war, and we must do everything to help them. They in turn need to respect the people from whom they seek shelter. Sadly there is a dangerous mentality among men from certain countries which tolerates and even encourages little formal education, disrespect for general law and order, and places women in danger. For off the chart volatile crime statistics check out what has happened in Sweden.

Europe in general has changed over the last 20 years for the worse. Great for trade/business, but very bad for quality of life. Clearly unique traditions and customs have eroded. What is unfolding now -> if not managed correctly will destroy Europe as we know it.

Did any of those countries join the "Coallition of the willing" that bombed the shit out the place
displaced/killed leaders and caused all this mess?

No.
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Did any of those countries join the that bombed the shit out the place
displaced/killed leaders and caused all this mess?

No.
That was Iraq over 13 years ago but even more importantly that's no reason for them not to help Syrians displaced due to their civil war.
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That was Iraq over 13 years ago but even more importantly that's no reason for them not to help Syrians displaced due to their civil war.
Yeah, the major fuck up is still a major fuck up 13 years later and the fuck up has spread
as "the coalition" financed an "Arab Spring" that has sprung a fucking leak.

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Yeah, the major fuck up is still a major fuck up 13 years later and the fuck up has spread
as "the coalition" financed an "Arab Spring" that has sprung a fucking leak.

how did that coalition finance the arab spring?
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I once read something that sums it up nicely. All the countries of the Middle East hate each other, but they all agree to hate Israel more.
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GCC Flag.svg Gulf Cooperation Council ? The oil-rich Countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.) have refused to accept a larger number of Syrian refugees.[208] If the Gulf Cooperation Council decides, as some analysis's claim, Saudi Arabia and its GCC allies can easily take up to three million Syrian refugees within one year.[209] The BBC reported that "most successful cases are Syrians already in Gulf states extending their stays, or those entering because they have family there."[130] According to the official from Saudi Arabia?s ministry of foreign affairs, cited by the official Saudi press agency, there are 100,000 Syrians in Saudi Arabia.[10] They are not classified as refugees.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refuge...d _by_country

Truth is the Oil States are afraid of their Syrian refugee ''brethren'' destabilizing their dictatorial monarchies. This war in Syria and Iraq now is for political gain and the acquisition of property and ''real estate.'' It is not a true religious war as we are led to believe by the rhetoric we hear daily This war is a sectarian conflict for power and wealth ...
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Many years ago in the adult industry here I worked with a Muslim man. He was a programmer, and his Muslim faith didn't hinder his work at all - He was able to separate his religion from his work. Eventually he became a US citizen, and much to my surprise he invited me to his swearing in. It was moving - We don't understand how lucky we are. Say what you want about the United States, but we have it good here.

Not all Muslims are bad. In fact, it's not Muslims who are bad at all. It's criminals who use their religion as an excuse to commit violent acts of crime that are bad.

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I once read something that sums it up nicely. All the countries of the Middle East hate each other, but they all agree to hate Israel more.
This sounds about right.
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No, we dont. Stop being a cuck.
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They won't take one but they'll DEMAND we take millions. Europe is making a grave mistake and it is one that the future generations will have to bare. We are doomed.
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The more religious someone is the more likely they are to be a pain in the ass.

This behavior ranges from Baptists who protest strip clubs to Muslims who blow up pizza parlors.

They are all dangerous idiots who should be given no quarter.
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The more religious someone is the more likely they are to be a pain in the ass.

This behavior ranges from Baptists who protest strip clubs to Muslims who blow up pizza parlors.

They are all dangerous idiots who should be given no quarter.
That is some fucked up logic ...
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Europe in general has changed over the last 20 years for the worse. Great for trade/business, but very bad for quality of life. Clearly unique traditions and customs have eroded. What is unfolding now -> if not managed correctly will destroy Europe as we know it.
VERY BAD for quality of life???? Did you loose touch with reality? Western Europe is one of the richest area's in the world with top notch infrastructure; top notch housing; top notch living standards; top notch everything... Let's not pretend that we are allready walking around in burka's beating our woman... please...
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Why aren't countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Qatar, etc taking in their Muslim "brothers and sisters" from countries like Syria? They can certainly afford it, and they are of the same faith.

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Totally agree. They should step up.
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Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates an so on don't take Syrians because as far as they see it Syrians are more like us that they are like them. There is a big difference between Syria and those guys, they aren't their brotherly muslims at all...

But when it comes to refugees overtaking EU, ok now lets do some math, 550 mil people in EU, 4 mil total Syrians fled the country, even if EU takes all of them which won't be the case this is still less that 1% of the population. What we are talking in reality is for EU to take ~ 0.4% from which probably half will go back home when the war is over (nationalism is a bitch) so 0.2-0.3% of the EU population in total, how is this any danger or threat and is it really going to change the face of EU as we know it forever? AGAIN we are talking 0.2-0.3% here, this is absolutely nothing.

If the refugees weren't non white muslims, the EU countries would've been in competition measuring their generosity dick size by trying to top each other over who is taking more

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It is not a true religious war as we are led to believe by the rhetoric we hear daily This war is a sectarian conflict for power and wealth ...
As is any religious war in the history of man kind, it's always about power and wealth... the whole point of religion was power and wealth to begin with
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VERY BAD for quality of life???? Did you loose touch with reality? Western Europe is one of the richest area's in the world with top notch infrastructure; top notch housing; top notch living standards; top notch everything... Let's not pretend that we are allready walking around in burka's beating our woman... please...
In all the major cities there are gangs of young muslims roaming the streets assaulting single white kids.... maybe its not a problem for people that are 30 years or older, but I can see my own kids have to think were they go, and if they go to public events were they know there will be immigrants, they have to go in packs of min 10-15 to avoid attaks, so maybe we dont wear burka's yet, but still.
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But when it comes to refugees overtaking EU, ok now lets do some math, 550 mil people in EU, 4 mil total Syrians fled the country, even if EU takes all of them which won't be the case this is still less that 1% of the population. What we are talking in reality is for EU to take ~ 0.4% from which probably half will go back home when the war is over (nationalism is a bitch) so 0.2-0.3% of the EU population in total, how is this any danger or threat and is it really going to change the face of EU as we know it forever? AGAIN we are talking 0.2-0.3% here, this is absolutely nothing.
The problem is that not only Syrians are coming, but ppl from Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa etc
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isn't that egyptian buying an island for refugees?
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isn't that egyptian buying an island for refugees?
Not sure how will that work out, most of the immigrants are coming for better benefits (Germany, Sweden etc), not for a safer place to stay...
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Not sure how will that work out, most of the immigrants are coming for better benefits (Germany, Sweden etc), not for a safer place to stay...
yea i have seen the better benefits and hidden-terrorist rhetoric. have you seen any videos from refugee camps in syria?



i mean, maybe it is some diabolical scheme to break into europe and steal all her customs, or it's something a little more honest
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yea i have seen the better benefits and hidden-terrorist rhetoric. have you seen any videos from refugee camps in syria?

[youtube]^^ see above
i mean, maybe it is some diabolical scheme to break into europe and steal all her customs, or it's something a little more honest
I donated $25 (on my personal behalf) and tripadvisor.com matched my donation (together $50) to the International Relief Committee (IRC -- an IRS non profit charity tax deductible donation). Maybe, and hopefully, it will help feed and shelter some of the displaced persons in the Syrian and Iraqi war zones.

The USA, Russia and Iran (and others) are delivering military aid, in measured doses, to the warring parties at the moment so the situation will probably get worse before it gets better ...
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I donated $25 (on my personal behalf) and tripadvisor.com matched my donation (together $50) to the International Relief Committee (IRC -- an IRS non profit charity tax deductible donation). Maybe, and hopefully, it will help feed and shelter some of the displaced persons in the Syrian and Iraqi war zones.

The USA, Russia and Iran (and others) are delivering military aid, in measured doses, to the warring parties at the moment so the situation will probably get worse before it gets better ...
good on you, i got as far as seeing what charities were involved and decided against it
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Why aren't countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Qatar, etc taking in their Muslim "brothers and sisters" from countries like Syria? They can certainly afford it, and they are of the same faith.

Among our team members are several Muslims so we in general do not suffer from "Islamophobia" that many do. Ironically it was they that raised this very question.

While every person on earth deserves a better life, they also need to respect the law of the land in which they wish to live in. Much is happening in world and its only going to get worse. Most do not want to adapt to the local languages, tradition and ways. We know a adopted German teenager of French/Eqyptian decent, and he states that his Muslim classmates have become the majority in the school, refuse to do their class assignments, their parents do not support the teachers, and they continuously speak Arabic in school instead of German.

My parents are migrants that escaped communism in the early 60's, and fled to the former region known as Yugoslavia so that they can in turn seek asylum in Italy where they cooperated with local authorities. Their life journey eventually led them to a legal ticket to the US, for which I am forever grateful.

The heart breaks for those that are displaced by war, and we must do everything to help them. They in turn need to respect the people from whom they seek shelter. Sadly there is a dangerous mentality among men from certain countries which tolerates and even encourages little formal education, disrespect for general law and order, and places women in danger. For off the chart volatile crime statistics check out what has happened in Sweden.

Europe in general has changed over the last 20 years for the worse. Great for trade/business, but very bad for quality of life. Clearly unique traditions and customs have eroded. What is unfolding now -> if not managed correctly will destroy Europe as we know it.
I agreed with some or most of what you were saying until you got to that point that I put in bold.

Please explain this to me.
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Why aren't countries like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Qatar, etc taking in their Muslim "brothers and sisters" from countries like Syria? They can certainly afford it, and they are of the same faith.

They are assholes and don't want them. It's as simple as that.
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why should i ask myself why the richie gulf states are not doing anything?
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A local college here in Canada just pledged free tuition for 10 Syrian refugees. Great idea assholes. How about helping out the citizens that are here and can't afford it first.
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Just saw on CNN as the US trained allies shooting at Syrian forces...all wearing ski masks and screaming Allah Akbar.... And the cunt reporter saying how these US friends need more support...

That is what is wrong with America today, no different then the prevailing opinion in 1940 and 1941 that Japanese cannot fight, fly or see because they have slanted eyes.

If you cannot learn from history you are due to repeat it.

....Good help us all

And I like to Polish approach:"you are welcome but convert to Christianity first..." Or fuck off..
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I'm guessing they are the wrong type of Muslims - I didn't read the whole thread yet though - I will later...
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I'm guessing they are the wrong type of Muslims - I didn't read the whole thread yet though - I will later...
They are the same type I believe, but they simply don't want the trouble. Can't say I blame them, these are people who just toppled their regime, why would I want a million of them in my country.
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The Gulf states don't take refugee because they didn't sign any treaty that legally recognizes refugees.

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Kuwait, Bahrain and other Gulf states are among the few nations in the world that have not signed a 1951 U.N. treaty on refugees. That's a key legal document that defines what a refugee is and spells out their rights and states' legal obligations. But since Gulf states haven't signed the treaty, any victim of war would need to meet the same standards as anyone else to obtain a visa.
Refugee crisis: Europe takes many; Gulf states take none - CNN.com

Meanwhile, European countries did sign said treaty:

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The treaty defines what refugees are -- those who is seeking refuge from persecution. It also gives them a very important right -- the right to not be sent back home into harm's way, except under extreme circumstances.

"Since, by definition, refugees are not protected by their own governments, the international community steps in to ensure they are safe and protected," said the UNHCR, the United Nations' refugee agency.

The treaty was amended in 1967, in part to include refugees from around the world.
Why some countries are obligated to take in refugees - CNN.com
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right, human compassion requires signing a treaty.
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right, human compassion requires signing a treaty.
Supposedly that is the "legal" reasoning behind their position on the crisis. It might just be an excuse, but it's one of the reasons.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:28 AM   #36
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Supposedly that is the "legal" reasoning behind their position on the crisis. It might just be an excuse, but it's one of the reasons.
show me where even just 1 gulf state stated the reason they are not accepting refugees is because they didn't sign a treaty.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:32 AM   #37
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show me where even just 1 gulf state stated the reason they are not accepting refugees is because they didn't sign a treaty.

Are you mentally challenged or something? Read the articles I posted, search for why "gulf states not refugees."
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no, i'm trying (unsuccessfully) to dumb myself down to your level.

i did read the article. and you still don't get it. none claim the gulf states are hiding behind not signing the treaty. they are simply showing they are not forced to by the treaty. none of which has fuck all to do with human compassion and your lack of critical thinking.
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Looks at the map. The refugees are heading north. There's a huge desert and rough terrain SE of Syria and South of Iraq. If I was trying to get out of the cluster fuck, I'd head north/NW. I'm not gonna head towards the wartorn side of Syria and Iraq. Due to this, refugees are refugees in the countries they end up in. It's not like they're giving out flights back to Saudi Arabia.
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jordan, lebanon, and libya didn't sign the fucking treaty and they are taking in refugees. you should let them know they should not do that, you know, since they didn't sign the treaty
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Just saw on CNN as the US trained allies shooting at Syrian forces...all wearing ski masks and screaming Allah Akbar.... And the cunt reporter saying how these US friends need more support...

That is what is wrong with America today, no different then the prevailing opinion in 1940 and 1941 that Japanese cannot fight, fly or see because they have slanted eyes.

If you cannot learn from history you are due to repeat it.

....Good help us all

And I like to Polish approach:"you are welcome but convert to Christianity first..." Or fuck off..
We still kicked their asses and had a place to test out our new bombs... After that they became our best buds and made us cool car stereos and big screen TVs and little cars.
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no, i'm trying (unsuccessfully) to dumb myself down to your level.

i did read the article. and you still don't get it. none claim the gulf states are hiding behind not signing the treaty. they are simply showing they are not forced to by the treaty. none of which has fuck all to do with human compassion and your lack of critical thinking.
You obviously didn't read them, because this is the main reason being offered for their not accepting refugees. Call it a lie, call it lack of human compassion, call it whatever you want. They may not come out and say it explicitly, but it is understood that they are not legally obliged to accept refugees. I don't condone it, I don't oppose it, I don't care either way.
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You obviously didn't read them, because this is the main reason being offered for their not accepting refugees. Call it a lie, call it lack of human compassion, call it whatever you want. They may not come out and say it explicitly, but it is understood that they are not legally obliged to accept refugees. I don't condone it, I don't oppose it, I don't care either way.
Huh? OK, here's your chance, quote that from either of the links you provided.
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Huh? OK, here's your chance, quote that from either of the links you provided.
Here is your chance, shut the fuck up because you look stupider with each post.
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I'm not surprised you fail at providing a simple quote and instead jump to personal insults.
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jordan, lebanon, and libya didn't sign the fucking treaty and they are taking in refugees. you should let them know they should not do that, you know, since they didn't sign the treaty
Quoted for mother fucking truth.
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I'm guessing they are the wrong type of Muslims - I didn't read the whole thread yet though - I will later...
There is no "wrong type" of Muslims.

They are all fucked up assholes spreading hate and stupidity like a virus around the civilized world.
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There is no "wrong type" of Muslims.

They are all fucked up assholes spreading hate and stupidity like a virus around the civilized world.
yes. the arabs are the most racist people on earth, second place is the settler jews. that region will be the death of western civilization because the west is too insular, lazy, politically correct to do anything about Islamism until its too late. Fucking obama is opening the white house to a muslim kid who race baited with a hoax bomb. So obviously he will let the virus fester until another president has to deal with the next 911. just like clinton let osama grow & roosevelt let nazis run cattle cars, democrats let evil grow & win.

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The U.S. Has Spent $9 Million a Day to Fight ISIS

This is low-budget warfare that creates the most misery for the money spent

You reap what you sew or you get what you pay for.

Give us free oil and we will fight your dirty wars. Otherwise, we should just draw back to defensive positions and retaliate with massive force and strength if needed.

Just like the Vietnam War we are not fighting to win -- shit or get off the pot
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