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L-Pink 09-17-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20582246)
Trump would be richer if he would have done nothing.


Donald Trump would be richer if he?d have invested in index funds

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And I would be worth hundreds of millions if I had put everything I had into apple stock 20 years ago.

dyna mo 09-17-2015 11:53 AM

dan bilzerian gets $60 million from his old man and drops it on hookers and blow and becomes king of instagram.

Trump gets $60 million from his old man and parlays it into $10 billion and a shot at becoming POTUS.

SuckOnThis 09-17-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20582300)
Thank you. I have no idea why people don't readily see it. Oh wait, I do. Watch any newscast on budget deficit/surplus spending and they all invariably fail to point this out. Thus people out there hear "balanced budget" and they assume quite wrongly that the federal deficiit has been eradicated.

Same thing is going on in the Canadian Fed. election right now in fact. Every nightly news talks about who is promising a 'balanced budget' while utterly failing to point out to voters that, for example, the Harper gov't doubled our existing deficite over the course of their tenure.

If either the US or Canadian gov'ts were to run at a surplus budget indefinitely from here on out it would take either of them roughly 300 years or more to pay off their current respective debts.

I honesstly have no idea how anyone, reporter or politician especially, can say the words "balanced budget" with a straight face in light of the actual debt situation that exists.:2 cents:


Having a balanced budget simply means the govt is taking in more money than it is putting out. Has nothing to do with the debt. The US govt has been in debt since the 1940's starting with WW2, even Clinton added to the debt but is known for balancing the budget because he eliminated the deficit by balancing the budget. Again, the deficit and debt are two different things, and they are calculated differently. Don't ask me how...lol.

dyna mo 09-17-2015 11:58 AM

The deficits have largely come down as a result of the improved economy for which Obama cannot assume full credit.

The deficit has come down in recent years because of the strengthening economy, which drives tax revenues up, and the draw-down of various economic stimulus programs that were implemented to weather the financial crisis. Additionally, the expiration of 2 percent payroll tax cuts and increases in tax rates for high-income earners played a role, albeit a smaller one.

The country’s spending is not expected to continue its downward route, according to federal forecasters, for factors that include increased interest payments on the debt and the lack of substantial policy changes for the country’s biggest programs, like Social Security and Medicare.


Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office | PolitiFact

Horatio Caine 09-17-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20582043)
i've got a nice cozy spot in that empty cavity sitting on top of your neck. it's roomy in here.

And thats the best comeback you got chump ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 09-17-2015 03:06 PM

you should be thanking me, i'm taking it easy on ya based on yer *look at me i figured out trump supporters are stupid on account of the tv told me so* thread.

dyna mo 09-17-2015 03:08 PM

this is the part where the op then comes back with an insult about me having a job or having too much time on gfy. as if those make sense together, but he does like to flipflop between those 2.

Barry-xlovecam 09-17-2015 03:13 PM

Could you just write a check to pay down or pay off your share of the national debt?

Most Government Debt per Person: Countries - Bloomberg Best (and Worst)

So, discussing the national debt means nothing if you can't wire a check to the US Treasury to pay your share of it. So, what is the fucking point of the disscussion again? :1orglaugh

TheSquealer 09-17-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20582047)
I love how he came from poor, humble beginnings with no capital to start with.

Another stupid argument from the poor. I could give you $10,000,000.00 right now and you'd be broke in 5 years just like nearly every lottery winner ever. Why? You don't understand money, management, accounting, finance or leadership or any of the other skills required to be productive with it. You don't understand that everything in life is a skill... skills are developed and honed. They don't just appear. You don't know how to build and run a business. You don't know how to invest successfully. You don't even have the slightest idea of what it takes to build wealth, build brands, build companies and employ 100's or 1000's or 10's of 1000's of people.

Trumps advantage was having a parent as a role model to teach him the value of money and how to use money to make money.... All while the 99% were out there scrambling to rack up mountains of debt for shit they don't need.

Robert Kiyosaki said it well (paraphrasing) "what's an inner city, single mother of three going to teach her child about wealth and money management"?".

The irony is that I just got off the phone with someone who i have been negotiating lease terms with on a commercial space I want and they've finally agreed to nearly everything I want. I'll start this business My current income streams all are passive, generate well into 5 figures a month and leave me with nothing to do all day long but workout and run. basically I'm
Starting a new business out of boredom. It's something I like to do and it's something. I understand. It's something I know how to manage, market and promote and I have many years experience of managing 100's of employees. I'll be there at 5am until 9pm because I like doing it. You'll still be here talking about how others don't deserve their wealth or success literally as I'm building this business up from zero and you be doing the same as I lease a second and third space and expand.

$5 submissions 09-17-2015 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20581994)
I guess if thats your criteria you would vote for Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton if they ever ran.

They also turned 100M USD into 10B USD?

They also inspired tons of entrepreneurs?

They also helped tons of charitable causes?

They also have buildings with their names on them dotting the globe?

Who knew?

TheSquealer 09-17-2015 04:27 PM

95% of people here couldn't turn 1$ into 2$ if their lives depended on it

bronco67 09-17-2015 04:46 PM

If you watch that New Hampshire town hall meeting that's on right now, you'll get a good glimpse of the boneheads who support Trump. The first "question" from the audience about the Muslim president was all you need to hear.

Dead 09-17-2015 04:51 PM

And I would be worth hundreds of millions if I had put everything I had into apple stock 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]

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Dead 09-17-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20582595)
95% of people here couldn't turn 1$ into 2$ if their lives depended on it

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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 09-17-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20582516)
this is the part where the op then comes back with an insult about me having a job or having too much time on gfy. as if those make sense together, but he does like to flipflop between those 2.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
No fucktard, I was at my son's JV football game. How is your day going trailer park shitstain :1orglaugh

bronco67 09-17-2015 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20582683)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
No fucktard, I was at my son's JV football game. How is your day going trailer park shitstain :1orglaugh

Oh man. You have a son?

I'll bet he's getting raised right.

Horatio Caine 09-17-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20582687)
Oh man. You have a son?

I'll bet he's getting raised right.

23K donation to Catholic Dioceses. He better be. Otherwise he'd like you or any other trailer park resident. :1orglaugh

MakingItPay 09-18-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20582047)
I love how he came from poor, humble beginnings with no capital to start with.

He turned $40 million into $10 billion. How many people with $40 million would be motivated to crush it like he has? If you don't like to hear what a candidate that isn't owned by special interests sounds like, you should stop listening to him now.

Keep in mind the track record of success amassed by our current President before he took office. :thumbsup

slapass 09-18-2015 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20582019)
Where did he say anything about Obama being the problem? He suggested that we should be better than we are.

Everyone is running around pointing fingers. What does it matter? Every eight years it's a different party in office. Both parties are fully responsible for the current state of American affairs.

If you think this country is at the best of its ability right now, I feel sorry for you. We are capable of so much more, and yet here we are, blaming this person, blaming that person, chasing ghosts, fighting over who said what and who didn't do what, instead of manning up and admitting that we are not what we should be and we can do better.

We can do better.

We have full employment, stock market at all time highs, low interest rates, etc. America is doing great. We have sequester and in 20 years we have the Social Security circuit breaker.

I am not sure what people expect Trump/Bush/Clinton to change if they are elected.

We are seeing inflation and high growth rates disappear and this might be an issue of the % of working class to overall population. Add in that the world is more competitive across borders and some of this stuff might have fundamentally changed.

But that is not all bad. The world has gotten richer, smarter and better managed as a whole. We really are doing very well as a species or at least if compared historically.

Barry-xlovecam 09-18-2015 06:54 AM

I don't personally know any Billionaires but my grandfather was a Millionaire and I have regularly dealt with Millionaires all my life in working relationships.

I have dealt with very wealthy people that are very considerate and nice people with good social values and understanding of the world they live in -- many of those inherited their money.

I have dealt with very wealthy people that are arrogant condescending shitstains also.

This has taught me to judge a man by his deeds and not by his bank balance.

Donald Trump is one of the arrogant assholes --- My vote is for sale Donald: $500K wired into my bank account, Donald Chump ...

Jel 09-18-2015 06:57 AM

100 stupid republicrats

Barry-xlovecam 09-18-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20583015)
We have full employment, stock market at all time highs, low interest rates, etc. America is doing great. We have sequester and in 20 years we have the Social Security circuit breaker.

I am not sure what people expect Trump/Bush/Clinton to change if they are elected.

We are seeing inflation and high growth rates disappear and this might be an issue of the % of working class to overall population. Add in that the world is more competitive across borders and some of this stuff might have fundamentally changed.

But that is not all bad. The world has gotten richer, smarter and better managed as a whole. We really are doing very well as a species or at least if compared historically.

Notwithstanding, that too great of income disparity is a social problem. The problem is there are a lot of people with obsolete or legacy occupational skills.

Workers that were unskilled or semi-skilled could earn a reasonable standard of living 30 years ago in the USA. But now they cannot and we all benefit by foreign goods that are less costly -- except the displaced workers. What would you rather have: A TV that costs $150 in today's inflated money or a TV that cost $370 in 1978 money ($1,352.41 2015 money)?

We are more efficient today ...

2MuchMark 09-18-2015 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20581983)
I watched some of the debate.

This is what I don't understand. "Look at what Obama has done to our country". HUH? What has he done?

Obama is a good president and has done a lot of good things so far, so the republicans have no argument against him. Therefore the only way to win is to demonize him. They try to paint him as a foreigner, or as a muslim, or as someone with a secret agenda, or as someone who wants to "take away your freedoms", take away guns, rights, etc etc.

The amount of endless incredible bullshit thrown around is insane, and its no wonder why some people are so confused or believe the wrong things.

dyna mo 09-18-2015 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20582683)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
No fucktard, I was at my son's JV football game. How is your day going trailer park shitstain :1orglaugh

my day is going fantastic, thanks for asking. sorry to hear your son only made the jv squad , like father like son.

Barry-xlovecam 09-18-2015 08:31 AM



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
The Donald will cut a tough deal with Putin ...

PornSEO 09-18-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20581549)
Nothing but "simpleton" talk with promises of "I will do it because I'm bad ass".
What a clown :1orglaugh

I have long been looking for that answer. :pimp

Horatio Caine 09-18-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20583097)
my day is going fantastic, thanks for asking. sorry to hear your son only made the jv squad , like father like son.

He's in 8th grade fucking moron. Nobody makes varsity football at that age. Let me guess u played tuba in school. Btw when is child support due for your son?

dyna mo 09-18-2015 11:04 AM

making excuses, i see. i'm not surprised.


you should prolly google that shit about varsity before spouting off nonsense.

that's your comeback? assuming i played tuba and assuming i'm due child support (or owe it).

what's wrong with tuba? what's wrong with child support? you sound like a deadbeat dad. making excuses, bullying the tuba guy all while assuming others dodge child support.

again, i'm not surprised that's your view of the world around you.

Horatio Caine 09-18-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20583312)
making excuses, i see. i'm not surprised.


you should prolly google that shit about varsity before spouting off nonsense.

that's your comeback? assuming i played tuba and assuming i'm due child support (or owe it).

what's wrong with tuba? what's wrong with child support? you sound like a deadbeat dad. making excuses, bullying the tuba guy all while assuming others dodge child support.

again, i'm not surprised that's your view of the world around you.

Bubba, you tripping :1orglaugh World needs more deadbeats who drop 50K on private tuition and take their kids to varsity games and practices. :1orglaugh
Catch with you on Monday board ninja. Deadbeat is going tubing and stay in a cabin with his family. Whats you plans like for this weekend? Shooting for cool 32K posts? :1orglaugh Feel free to tell us you band camp stories while you at it.

dyna mo 09-18-2015 01:41 PM

riiiiiiiiight. says the online bully that has an epiphany about stupid people while watching tv and races to gfy to thump his chest about it all while acting like a racist bigot getting into internet spats with black people.

either way, you're the one that want to play drive-by bully, you know, like you did with me in that other thread, i'm playing along so i'll keep the light on for ya here while you're out ballin.

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20576516)
My simplistic reply to you shitstain was that you are a no-name shitstain. Posting shit all day long. What part of adult biz you in shitstain? No need to answer. :1orglaugh
Everytime I see some guy with green color and nothing to back it up with, I think its another fucking surfer or low life meth head pimp trying to fit in.

you wanted to tussle.

bronco67 09-18-2015 03:48 PM

I'm no fan of Horatio Cane, but he's right about Trump attracting idiots. They won't be around when it's time to vote.

Robbie 09-18-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20583529)
I'm no fan of Horatio Cane, but he's right about Trump attracting idiots. They won't be around when it's time to vote.

Everybody attracts idiots. And everybody also attracts intelligent people.

What on Earth does that have to do with anything?

And what does it say about people who want to keep voting for the exact same thing over and over when that has been a huge failure?

Our govt. is closing in on a 19 trillion dollar debt. We are involved in never-ending warfare. The NSA is spying on us. The number of people on foodstamps is at an all time high.

That is what the politicians have done for us over the last 60 years or so.

What is your suggestion? Elect yet another one of them? Listen to them lie their asses off in the election and just shrug our shoulders and say: "That's just the way it is" ?

There are plenty of stupid people voting for Democrats and Republicans. There are plenty of smart people doing the same thing.
Pointing it out doesn't mean a thing. What matters is this: Are you going to vote for someone who will actually do what they say? Or are you perfectly happy with being lied to and knowing full well they are lying to you?

dyna mo 09-18-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20583529)
I'm no fan of Horatio Cane, but he's right about Trump attracting idiots. They won't be around when it's time to vote.

so who are the smart people going to vote for? op is a jeb bush guy, obviously then, the implication in this thread is the smart people will be voting another bush into office. so bush is your smart choice?

ilnjscb 09-18-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20583549)
so who are the smart people going to vote for? op is a jeb bush guy, obviously then, the implication in this thread is the smart people will be voting another bush into office. so bush is your smart choice?

I'm asking the same thing, if he is the "establishment candidate" are you saying he's better than Trump?

King Mark 01-29-2017 05:41 PM

Lol.....

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