Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 03-19-2003, 07:24 AM   #1
marty
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,656
What would happen if Iraq bombed Israel?

I think the Israelis would beat the US into Bagdad with a few startegic nukes.
marty is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:26 AM   #2
bhutocracy
Not making A Comeback
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,218
only if they were chemical or biological weapons, not normal ordinence and even then the possibility is remote, for a starters everything would have to go through US command. It's more likely to be used as PR and justification for the Iraq attack then draw condemnation for using nukes.

Last edited by bhutocracy; 03-19-2003 at 07:29 AM..
bhutocracy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:28 AM   #3
Mr.Fiction
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Free Speech Land
Posts: 9,484
Israel knows better than to use nukes. They might drop some bombs, but they aren't going to nuke anyone.
Mr.Fiction is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:28 AM   #4
Sassyass
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,101
Sassyass is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:29 AM   #5
Gman.357
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 2,796
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Israel knows better than to use nukes. They might drop some bombs, but they aren't going to nuke anyone.
Listen to Mr. Fiction everyone, he seems to have all the FACTS about every country.
__________________

Ouch.
Gman.357 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:32 AM   #6
Mr.Fiction
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Free Speech Land
Posts: 9,484
Quote:
Originally posted by Gman.357


Listen to Mr. Fiction everyone, he seems to have all the FACTS about every country.
I notice you never post during the hours that Rush's show is on. Coincidence?
Mr.Fiction is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:32 AM   #7
marty
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,656
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Israel knows better than to use nukes. They might drop some bombs, but they aren't going to nuke anyone.
If Saddam droped a few crues missiles into the lap of israel and cause the death of thousands, I think Israel wouldn't give a flying fuck and simply wipe out Iraq.

I just hope that our boys and girls get out of the way first.
marty is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:34 AM   #8
Mr.Fiction
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Free Speech Land
Posts: 9,484
Quote:
Originally posted by marty

If Saddam droped a few crues missiles into the lap of israel and cause the death of thousands, I think Israel wouldn't give a flying fuck and simply wipe out Iraq.

I just hope that our boys and girls get out of the way first.
Keep dreaming.
Mr.Fiction is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:35 AM   #9
Mark
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 600
Israel would send a strongly worded complaint to the UN
Mark is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:37 AM   #10
Gman.357
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 2,796
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


I notice you never post during the hours that Rush's show is on. Coincidence?
Hey, I'm really a left wing liberal who hugs trees and writes poetry in my spare time.

This is just my GFY character. OR IS IT?

Uh-oh... conspiracy! Now run along and gather facts!

__________________

Ouch.
Gman.357 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:44 AM   #11
bhutocracy
Not making A Comeback
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,218
Quote:
Originally posted by marty

If Saddam droped a few crues missiles into the lap of israel and cause the death of thousands, I think Israel wouldn't give a flying fuck and simply wipe out Iraq.
No actually. Iraq bombed Israel during '91 without getting nuked, and this time we'll actually be going into bagdad, I'd love to see Israel try to nuke areas with US troops in them.. bye bye 300 million aid dollars.
bhutocracy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:48 AM   #12
marty
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,656
Quote:
Originally posted by bhutocracy


No actually. Iraq bombed Israel during '91 without getting nuked, and this time we'll actually be going into bagdad, I'd love to see Israel try to nuke areas with US troops in them.. bye bye 300 million aid dollars.
If Israel gave the US a couple of hours warning to get out, what is the US going to do?

If I was Israel I would send the nukes 1 minute past the deadline and make myself a country fof my own and for my own people while eliminating a foe in the process.
marty is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:50 AM   #13
Mr.Fiction
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Free Speech Land
Posts: 9,484
Quote:
Originally posted by Gman.357


Hey, I'm really a left wing liberal who hugs trees and writes poetry in my spare time.

This is just my GFY character. OR IS IT?

Uh-oh... conspiracy! Now run along and gather facts!

Holy shit, are you serious? We might have more in common than you think. I'm really a right wing nut who spent eight of the last ten years protesting outside Clinton's mom's house in Arkansas. I just play a character who thinks Bush is worse than Clinton here. I actually think that a Whitehouse blowjob caused 9/11 and Bush is going to save the world! Interesting how GFY brings out people's best acting skills.
Mr.Fiction is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 08:25 AM   #14
marty
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,656
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
...Interesting how GFY brings out people's best acting skills.
I have seen better
marty is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 08:33 AM   #15
CaroMark
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 1,357
I would rather be marching into Bagdad with Israel at my side than any of our other so called allies. Not only would we get there quicker but with a lot less casualties I think.
__________________
Mark M, 727-433-0745
[email protected] Support is everything!
ICQ# 40467849, AIM MMemmer333

CaroMark is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 08:55 AM   #16
Sassyass
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,101
Quote:
Originally posted by marty

If Saddam droped a few crues missiles into the lap of israel and cause the death of thousands, I think Israel wouldn't give a flying fuck and simply wipe out Iraq.

I just hope that our boys and girls get out of the way first.
Iraqi cruise missle
Sassyass is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 09:01 AM   #17
Gutterboy
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dis
Posts: 4,751
Quote:
Originally posted by bhutocracy


No actually. Iraq bombed Israel during '91 without getting nuked,
Iraq didn't get nuked because the US begged Israel not to retaliate. We did it because their entry into the conflict would have broken the coalition, which included quite a few Arab nations.
Gutterboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 09:04 AM   #18
marty
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,656
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


Iraq didn't get nuked because the US begged Israel not to retaliate. We did it because their entry into the conflict would have broken the coalition, which included quite a few Arab nations.
Exactly, now I remebre that too. Damn that was close to an all out war then.
marty is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 09:04 AM   #19
Mr.Fiction
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Free Speech Land
Posts: 9,484
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


Iraq didn't get nuked because the US begged Israel not to retaliate. We did it because their entry into the conflict would have broken the coalition, which included quite a few Arab nations.
Interesting you use the word "begged". I wonder what right wingers think about the U.S. having to "beg" another country for anything? I thought the U.S. was too powerful to beg anyone for anything?
Mr.Fiction is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 09:11 AM   #20
Gutterboy
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dis
Posts: 4,751
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Interesting you use the word "begged". I wonder what right wingers think about the U.S. having to "beg" another country for anything? I thought the U.S. was too powerful to beg anyone for anything?
The right wingers didn't like alot of things about George Sr. He was much more of a centrist than his son has turned out to be.

Back to the thread topic: this time there is no coalition to protect, and Israel has warned the US and Iraq that it will retaliate if Saddam uses WMD's against them. I don't think anyone who knows anything about Israel and its defense policy doubts they would use nukes if sufficiently provoked.

Shit, they bulldozed an American peace activist what, 2 days ago?
Gutterboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 10:14 AM   #21
Mark
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 600
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


The right wingers didn't like alot of things about George Sr. He was much more of a centrist than his son has turned out to be.

Back to the thread topic: this time there is no coalition to protect, and Israel has warned the US and Iraq that it will retaliate if Saddam uses WMD's against them. I don't think anyone who knows anything about Israel and its defense policy doubts they would use nukes if sufficiently provoked.

Shit, they bulldozed an American peace activist what, 2 days ago?
So you are saying that coz some dumb 'peace activist' got flattened when she walked in front of a bulldozer then israel is sure to nuke iraq?!

Israel has warned iraq that it will retaliate but nothing was said about nukes (we don't have any ;) - israel is quite capable of dealing a heavy blow to iraq with conventional weapons but personally I think its more likely to make just a symbolic retaliation.. just enough to let other countries in the region know that its not a good idea to attack israel..
Mark is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 10:37 AM   #22
Exxxotica
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Oregun
Posts: 4,396
"What would happen if Iraq bombed Israel? "


IF? ...you mean When?
__________________


Needs some really great hosting? Black Seven

note: I do not work for Blackseven... Im just grateful for their kick ass hosting...so quit bothering them when I hurt your feelings... pussy
Exxxotica is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 10:53 AM   #23
steffie
Confirmed User
 
steffie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away
Posts: 2,422
Quote:
Originally posted by Exxxotica
"What would happen if Iraq bombed Israel? "


IF? ...you mean When?
When the first bomb hits Israel.
They already said this time they will NOT stay put, they will fight back.

Anybody every read The prophecies of Nostredamus?

Everybody is worried, I want to believe that it will be over in 24 hours and that most of the soldiers will give up like in the last War. But who knows...

Sit back, wait and see.
__________________
Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm
steffie is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 10:57 AM   #24
directfiesta
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
directfiesta's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 29,785
Quote:
Originally posted by bhutocracy


bye bye 300 million aid dollars.
What would you say of 6 billion ..... 300 million is just for the bulldozer squadron...
directfiesta is online now   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:20 AM   #25
dav555add
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,427
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta


What would you say of 6 billion ..... 300 million is just for the bulldozer squadron...
Our quebecois NAZI could not resist!!!
__________________
...
dav555add is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:21 AM   #26
foreverjason
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,452
Israel would fuck them up BAD!
foreverjason is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:24 AM   #27
dav555add
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,427
Israel would most likely retaliate if saddam sends any kind of wmd loaded scuds. If they are conventional scuds, then the pressure the USA is putting on Israel would probably avoid any kind of Israeli retaliation.
But it is quite clear that if mass casualty occurs in Israel due to an Arab country attacking them, then Israel would eradicate the attackers.
__________________
...
dav555add is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:27 AM   #28
KRL
Entrepreneur
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 31,429
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


Iraq didn't get nuked because the US begged Israel not to retaliate. We did it because their entry into the conflict would have broken the coalition, which included quite a few Arab nations.
Israel couldn't respond because we refused to give their airforce command the friend or foe codes.

At the end of the day, Israel still knows its surrounded by 300 million Arabs and using Nukes could spark confrontations with other Arab countries.
__________________
If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains
KRL is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:33 AM   #29
theking
Nice Kitty
 
theking's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: The good old USA!!!
Posts: 21,053
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta


What would you say of 6 billion ..... 300 million is just for the bulldozer squadron...
The usual annual amount is about 3 billion but sometimes this is supplemented.
__________________
When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html
theking is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:42 AM   #30
MAGNET
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TORONTO
Posts: 357
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


Iraq didn't get nuked because the US begged Israel not to retaliate. We did it because their entry into the conflict would have broken the coalition, which included quite a few Arab nations.
That is 100% true, in 91 Israel was being bombed by Iraq with scud missiles, Israel was on the verge of retaliating but the US was asked them not to instead they sent Israel a newly-developed weapon as the most sophisticated anti-missile defence in the world, capable of intercepting Iraqi Scud missiles. But I don?t think Israel is going to attack Iraq without the permission from the us after all the us is Israel?s big brother!!
__________________

Promote SheTalksDirty.com! A New DIRTY TALKING Niche!
64% CCBILL Rev-Share, 5% Webmaster Referral! | Click Here
Free Dirty Talking Video Content | Hosted Movie Galleries Available! | ICQ: 161851633
MAGNET is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:45 AM   #31
directfiesta
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
directfiesta's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 29,785
Quote:
Originally posted by dav555add


Our quebecois NAZI could not resist!!!

03/19/2003 Subscribe to the print edition!

U.S Financial Aid To Israel:
Figures, Facts, and Impact



Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

-----------------------------------------------------------------

This part is not for you dav555add, because you can't read:

January/February 2001, pages 15-16

Congress Watch
A Conservative Total for U.S. Aid to Israel: $91 Billion?and Counting

?By Shirl McArthur



With the turmoil surrounding the presidential election essentially freezing Congress into inaction, this is probably a good time to take another look at aid to Israel. The common figure given for U.S. aid to Israel is $3 billion per year?$1.2 billion in economic aid and $1.8 billion in military aid. As impressive as this figure is, however, since it represents about one-sixth of total U.S. foreign aid, the true figure is even more remarkable. It is difficult, however, to arrive at an exact number. Much of the money the U.S. gives Israel is buried in the budgets of other government agencies, primarily the Defense Department (DOD). Other subsidies come in a form that isn?t easily quantifiable, such as the early disbursement of aid, which allows Israel to gain (and the U.S. taxpayer to lose) the interest on the unspent money.
This year?s appropriations bills for FY 2001, which began Oct. 1, 2000, include, in addition to the $2.82 billion in economic and military foreign aid to Israel, an additional $60 million in so-called refugee resettlement and $250 million in the DOD budget, plus $85 million imputed interest, for a total of at least $3.215 billion. In addition, on Nov. 14, 2000, President William Clinton sent a special request to Congress for an additional $450 million in military aid to Israel in FY 2001, plus $350 million for FY 2002.
The package also included $225 million in military aid for Egypt and $75 million in security assistance for Jordan. The $450 million for Israel is not included in these calculations, because it is unclear at this writing whether Congress will approve the package in the current political climate.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha

Now, please explain why the fact of correcting figures that were erroneous is NAZI ????

Didn't see: fucking jew
Didn't see: Hitler should have killed you all
Didn't see: your kill kids ( do Israel does)

On the other hand, this a post from you:

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by dav555add


The arabs are responsible, they are the cancer of this planet.


There is only one solution to avoid or to have avoided this kind of terrorist attack;
Deport all arabs, forbid entry in the US of all arabs.
But obviously no President will have the balls to take such a drastic measure...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So, you should shut the fuck up you idiot zionist .
People like you make that your race is targetted ...

You are a fucking oiece of shit floting in the toilet bowl... and I just flushed it>


directfiesta is online now   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:53 AM   #32
MAGNET
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TORONTO
Posts: 357
Quote:
Originally posted by KRL


Israel couldn't respond because we refused to give their airforce command the friend or foe codes.

At the end of the day, Israel still knows its surrounded by 300 million Arabs and using Nukes could spark confrontations with other Arab countries.
I saw this special on what would happen if the situation in the middle east between Israel and the all the Arab countries that surround it would blow and they would decide to go to war, Israel with it massive military power would wipe all surrounding 300 million Arabs in a matter of a couple of days this is a known fact Israel is rated #3 in the world most powerful armies. And the Arab nations know it that?s why the cant do shit till today about this small little country which is located between the and is a pain in the neck!!
__________________

Promote SheTalksDirty.com! A New DIRTY TALKING Niche!
64% CCBILL Rev-Share, 5% Webmaster Referral! | Click Here
Free Dirty Talking Video Content | Hosted Movie Galleries Available! | ICQ: 161851633
MAGNET is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 11:54 AM   #33
PlayaPlaya
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: new york, ny usa
Posts: 191
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy
Shit, they bulldozed an American peace activist what, 2 days ago?
The dumb bitch deserved it! She must of thought she was protesting against a US based company that actually cared about PR. She didn't understand that fact that was standing in the way of a soldier who had specific orders to do what he had to do. Now, any other idiot that decides to jump in front of a bull dozer will know better.
__________________
Best Regards,

Michael Volozin
Oxeo Hosting
www.oxeo.com
Direct: 212.812.9073 ext 901
ICQ: 150013894 | AIM: MikeOxeo
PlayaPlaya is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 12:18 PM   #34
roly
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,844
Quote:
Originally posted by MMemmer
I would rather be marching into Bagdad with Israel at my side than any of our other so called allies. Not only would we get there quicker but with a lot less casualties I think.
do you know how many british soldiers are out their about to risk their lives in a few hours? only a fraction of what the US is sending but still a very significant number. the british army may not be one of the biggest but it's definately one of the most professional armies in the world. you obviously don't know what your talking about.

why would you get there quicker and with less casulaties with israel their instead of the british?
roly is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 12:38 PM   #35
dav555add
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,427
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta



03/19/2003 Subscribe to the print edition!

U.S Financial Aid To Israel:
Figures, Facts, and Impact



Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

-----------------------------------------------------------------

This part is not for you dav555add, because you can't read:

January/February 2001, pages 15-16

Congress Watch
A Conservative Total for U.S. Aid to Israel: $91 Billion?and Counting

?By Shirl McArthur



With the turmoil surrounding the presidential election essentially freezing Congress into inaction, this is probably a good time to take another look at aid to Israel. The common figure given for U.S. aid to Israel is $3 billion per year?$1.2 billion in economic aid and $1.8 billion in military aid. As impressive as this figure is, however, since it represents about one-sixth of total U.S. foreign aid, the true figure is even more remarkable. It is difficult, however, to arrive at an exact number. Much of the money the U.S. gives Israel is buried in the budgets of other government agencies, primarily the Defense Department (DOD). Other subsidies come in a form that isn?t easily quantifiable, such as the early disbursement of aid, which allows Israel to gain (and the U.S. taxpayer to lose) the interest on the unspent money.
This year?s appropriations bills for FY 2001, which began Oct. 1, 2000, include, in addition to the $2.82 billion in economic and military foreign aid to Israel, an additional $60 million in so-called refugee resettlement and $250 million in the DOD budget, plus $85 million imputed interest, for a total of at least $3.215 billion. In addition, on Nov. 14, 2000, President William Clinton sent a special request to Congress for an additional $450 million in military aid to Israel in FY 2001, plus $350 million for FY 2002.
The package also included $225 million in military aid for Egypt and $75 million in security assistance for Jordan. The $450 million for Israel is not included in these calculations, because it is unclear at this writing whether Congress will approve the package in the current political climate.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha

Now, please explain why the fact of correcting figures that were erroneous is NAZI ????

Didn't see: fucking jew
Didn't see: Hitler should have killed you all
Didn't see: your kill kids ( do Israel does)

On the other hand, this a post from you:

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by dav555add


The arabs are responsible, they are the cancer of this planet.


There is only one solution to avoid or to have avoided this kind of terrorist attack;
Deport all arabs, forbid entry in the US of all arabs.
But obviously no President will have the balls to take such a drastic measure...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So, you should shut the fuck up you idiot zionist .
People like you make that your race is targetted ...

You are a fucking oiece of shit floting in the toilet bowl... and I just flushed it>


You know; I sure hope you're coming down to Florida this August, I think you and I are going to have a lot of fun together...
For Labret, I can understand, he is a freethinking philosophers, and I guess you can't get mad against philosophers, joe6packs is a radical retarded moron, and again; it's not nice to make fun of handicaped people. But you, you are a true NAZI, you need to be ERADICATED.
__________________
...
dav555add is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 12:58 PM   #36
NetRodent
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: In the walls of your house.
Posts: 3,985
Quote:
Originally posted by MAGNET
Israel is rated #3 in the world most powerful armies.
I don't think so. The US is obviously the most powerful. Then who's next on the list? I'd guess one of the following: China, Russia, North Korea, South Korea, Britain, Japan, India, Pakistan. I'd also guess that most of those have more powerful armies than Isreal.
__________________
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
--H.L. Mencken
NetRodent is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:01 PM   #37
JeremySF
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,236
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


Iraq didn't get nuked because the US begged Israel not to retaliate. We did it because their entry into the conflict would have broken the coalition, which included quite a few Arab nations.

That's what you believed, but the truth is Bush Sr. was no friend of Israel (which why it is surprising that Jr. is). Bush Sr. had a history of rebuffing the Israelis.

There have been stranger allies during war. Enemies frequently come together to oppose common enemies who are perceived even worse.
__________________
ICQ: 176050593 / AIM: JerSF2000

"Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions."
---------------------------------------------
JeremySF is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:01 PM   #38
directfiesta
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
directfiesta's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 29,785
Quote:
Originally posted by dav555add


You know; I sure hope you're coming down to Florida this August, I think you and I are going to have a lot of fun together...
For Labret, I can understand, he is a freethinking philosophers, and I guess you can't get mad against philosophers, joe6packs is a radical retarded moron, and again; it's not nice to make fun of handicaped people. But you, you are a true NAZI, you need to be ERADICATED.
Sorry, I was in Pompano from Feb 23rd to March 10th. Great Wheater. Enjoyed visiting Ibill in Deerfield and had a few nice evening with my JEWISH friends among others.....

Zionist are nnot accepted tough ....

You still do not explain why NAZI ... Probably don't even know the meaning ....

Keep the insult coming ... that's what nazi's were doing in Germany when Jews were walking in the streets....
directfiesta is online now   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:04 PM   #39
directfiesta
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
directfiesta's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 29,785
And zionist_dave555ad, something wrong with the figures that I posted... After all, I am a nazi because I corrected the 300 million that was posted as "aid"....

Numbers talk, bullshit walks, and you suck
directfiesta is online now   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:07 PM   #40
JeremySF
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,236
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta



03/19/2003 Subscribe to the print edition!

U.S Financial Aid To Israel:
Figures, Facts, and Impact



Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

-----------------------------------------------------------------

This part is not for you dav555add, because you can't read:

January/February 2001, pages 15-16

Congress Watch
A Conservative Total for U.S. Aid to Israel: $91 Billion?and Counting

?By Shirl McArthur



And why don't you look up how much $$$ we give to Egypt (#2) and Colombia (#3). I'd say our money with Israel is a much better investment.

People seem to think we just give Israel money and that's it. Do you know how much money Israel turns around and pays U.S. companies? Israel also uses that money to develop technology that directly benefits the U.S. We don't just give them money for the hell of it. It serves our interests.


Here's an interesting article...

Aid to Israel
Does the U.S. get its money?s worth?

Israel and Egypt are the two largest recipients of U.S. aid. For its "participation" in the Gulf War, Egypt was forgiven its indebtedness of $9 billion. Israel pays its bills. It receives $2.8 billion every year. Of that amount, $2.0 billion is for military aid and $0.8 billion for economic aid. It?s fair to ask whether this is a good deal for the American taxpayer.

What are the Facts?

The only democratic country in the Middle East. Israel is the only genuinely democratic state in the Middle East. It is committed to freedom and equality, and the rule of law. It embodies the fundamental values that are in tune with those of America and that America has traditionally supported. Israel?s military and political importance in the Middle East and its strategic position stabilize the entire area, including the oil fields of the Persian Gulf. During the Cold War, it was America?s indispensable rampart against the inroads and expansionist ambitions of the Soviet Union. It is now a western bulwark against the aggressive intents of Iran, Iraq, and other bellicose nations that threaten the interests of the United States. It is a most reliable partner in the promotion of Western strategic interests and in the stabilization of the Middle East. Over 20% of its budget goes for defense, compared to 7% in the U.S. and less than 1% in Japan. Israel has one of the best armies in the world. Its navy and air force are the major deterrent forces in the eastern Mediterranean.

Israel effectively secures NATO?s southeastern flank, without having a single American soldier stationed in its territory. Still, the superb military installations, the air and sea lift capabilities, the equipment and food storage capacity, and the trained manpower to maintain and repair sophisticated U.S. equipment are instantly at hand in Israel. It is the only country in the area that makes itself available to the United States, in any contingency.

Only fraction of aid stays in Israel. There is no other country in the Middle East except Israel that can be considered to have a stable government or populace friendly to the United States. There is much danger that any military aid to Arab countries, and military equipment given or sold to them, will suffer the same fate as the untold billions of dollars and priceless military secrets that were lost to our enemies in the debacle of Iran. Is Saudi Arabia more stable? Egypt? Jordan? Kuwait? Judge for yourself!

Only a fraction of the aid given stays in Israel. By far the largest share remains with American defense contractors. Peter McPherson, former administrator of the Agency for International Development, estimated that every billion dollars of aid to Israel creates 60,000 to 70,000 jobs in the United States.

Compared to the $2.0 billion yearly military aid to Israel, the U.S. contributes more than $130 billion(!) every year to the defense of Europe and more than $30 billion to the defense of Japan, Korea, and the Far East. Over 300,000 U.S. troops are stationed with NATO and over 30,000 U.S. troops in the Far East. In contrast, not one single U.S. soldier needs to be stationed and put at risk in Israel. U.S. military analysts estimate that the U.S. would have to spend the equivalent of $150 billion a year in the Middle East to maintain a force equivalent to Israel?s.

There are many other benefits that the U.S. military derives from Israel. Israel is the only country that has gained battlefield experience with U.S. weapons. This experience is immediately conveyed to the U.S. Enormous quantities of captured Soviet weapons and defense systems were turned over to the U.S. military for analysis. Israel, in the light of its experience, continually modifies U.S. weapons systems. For instance, Israeli scientists have made over 200 improvements in the F-15 alone and similar improvements, mostly in avionics, in later-generation planes. It would be more in line with reality if military aid to Israel were classified as part of the defense budget, rather than as "aid". Israel is truly America?s unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East. Former President Reagan put it well: "The fall of Iran has increased Israel?s value as perhaps the only remaining strategic asset in the region on which the United States can fully rely." American aid to Israel is a two-way street. Aid to Israel is America?s greatest defense bargain.
__________________
ICQ: 176050593 / AIM: JerSF2000

"Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions."
---------------------------------------------
JeremySF is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:08 PM   #41
dav555add
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,427
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta
And zionist_dave555ad, something wrong with the figures that I posted... After all, I am a nazi because I corrected the 300 million that was posted as "aid"....

Numbers talk, bullshit walks, and you suck
shut up vermine
__________________
...
dav555add is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:12 PM   #42
JeremySF
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,236
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Israel knows better than to use nukes. They might drop some bombs, but they aren't going to nuke anyone.

Exactly!

Iraq tried to bomb Israel last time around and only killed two people. And I believe those people died from using their gas masks wrong or heart attacks. If he uses chemical weapons, that's a different story, but I doubt he will.
__________________
ICQ: 176050593 / AIM: JerSF2000

"Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions."
---------------------------------------------
JeremySF is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:15 PM   #43
directfiesta
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
directfiesta's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 29,785
Quote:
Originally posted by JeremySF



And why don't you look up how much $$$ we give to Egypt (#2) and Colombia (#3). I'd say our money with Israel is a much better investment.

.
Because the thread was not about Columbia, Egypt or anybody else.

The thread is:

What would happen if Iraq bombed Israel .... Then a popster said that Israel receives 300 million a year.

Sorry if I corrected that wrong figure and that it does offend you ...

By the way, would like the url of that article you posted. It is indeed interesting, and contrary to many, I like to see the other side of the medal.

A personal note to zionist_dave555add: do you want me to post my marriage licence to my jewish wife ( father from Hungary...).
Is it true you married an arab????




quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by dav555add


The arabs are responsible, they are the cancer of this planet.


There is only one solution to avoid or to have avoided this kind of terrorist attack;
Deport all arabs, forbid entry in the US of all arabs.
But obviously no President will have the balls to take such a drastic measure...


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


You know, I think I will make this my signature. It grows on me....

directfiesta is online now   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:16 PM   #44
Gutterboy
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dis
Posts: 4,751
Quote:
Originally posted by Mark
So you are saying that coz some dumb 'peace activist' got flattened when she walked in front of a bulldozer then israel is sure to nuke iraq?!
Never underestimate an angry zionist.

I guess the most we can hope for is that they'll get suicide bombed into submission before they get the chance to do any damage.

SB4L!
Gutterboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:23 PM   #45
Mark
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 600
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy


Never underestimate an angry zionist.

I guess the most we can hope for is that they'll get suicide bombed into submission before they get the chance to do any damage.

SB4L!
Funny.. thats probably exactly what saddam is thinking about the US now..
Mark is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:25 PM   #46
NetRodent
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: In the walls of your house.
Posts: 3,985
Quote:
Originally posted by Gutterboy
Never underestimate an angry zionist.

I guess the most we can hope for is that they'll get suicide bombed into submission before they get the chance to do any damage.

SB4L!
What a charming sentiment.
__________________
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
--H.L. Mencken
NetRodent is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:33 PM   #47
JeremySF
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,236
Quote:
Originally posted by Mark


So you are saying that coz some dumb 'peace activist' got flattened when she walked in front of a bulldozer then israel is sure to nuke iraq?!

Israel has warned iraq that it will retaliate but nothing was said about nukes (we don't have any ;) - israel is quite capable of dealing a heavy blow to iraq with conventional weapons but personally I think its more likely to make just a symbolic retaliation.. just enough to let other countries in the region know that its not a good idea to attack israel..

The U.S. is more likely to use nukes than Israel. The U.S. has actually said that they haven't ruled out the use of nukes under certain circumstances. Israel has said nothing to the like.

And I can't believe this crap about the peace protestor who was dumb enough to stand in front of a bulldozer. Given how frequently they do this, I'm surprised such an accident didn't occur earlier.
__________________
ICQ: 176050593 / AIM: JerSF2000

"Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions."
---------------------------------------------
JeremySF is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 01:38 PM   #48
JeremySF
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,236
Quote:
Originally posted by directfiesta


Because the thread was not about Columbia, Egypt or anybody else.

The thread is:

What would happen if Iraq bombed Israel .... Then a popster said that Israel receives 300 million a year.

Sorry if I corrected that wrong figure and that it does offend you ...

By the way, would like the url of that article you posted. It is indeed interesting, and contrary to many, I like to see the other side of the medal.

Okay, I may have been reading a little too much into it. People always make the argument that we give too much aid to Israel, while ignoring how much we give to Egypt.

Regarding the source you wanted...

Facts and Logic
http://factsandlogic.org/

Here is a list of articles there too...

http://factsandlogic.org/ads_and_positions.html


Also, check out http://honestreporting.com
__________________
ICQ: 176050593 / AIM: JerSF2000

"Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions."
---------------------------------------------
JeremySF is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.