Seems like Fox News is bending over backwards to fuck Trump... HARD.

They're really in the tank for the establishment RINOs.

He is winning because he's the anti establishment guy and Republicans are on the anti govt binge..


So let's look at the "one" thing he gave any sort of details about.. That's healthcare.. When pressed he claims he's no longer for a single payer system. Instead his grand idea was to erase the imaginary lines (state lines) and let insurance companies compete across the board instead of at the state level..

Meaning his idea is to keep Obamacare as is and just change the way insurance companies come up with their prices. Making it a national exchange vs state exchanges..

So all you anti Obamacare guys are sure to get a piece of the new and improved Trumpcare..

That was his one and only bit of detail into how he would do anything other than say I'm Donnald Trump..

I never watch fox, I was stunned tonight. Really. I hear a lot about fox and MSNBC but never really watch either.

I listened to the debate on Fox radio. Immediately after they went to the "spin room" for analysis. The first thing a female commenter said was how appalled she was with Trumps arrogant behavior. At that point I shut it off.

Yep...and no matter how hard they tried to fuck him in the "debate" (that first non-question with the hand raising was just outlandish), and no matter how hard they "analyze" him with talking heads trying to tell us what we just watched... He STILL is clearly winning the debate amongst viewers (at least according to the after-debate polls)

i missed it

This is interesting.

Crockett is against the only guy in the race who is NOT taking huge campaign contributions from corporations. (although crockett is for campaign finance reform and thus agrees with Trump on this)

Crockett is against the only Republican onstage who told Jeb Bush to his face that George W. Bush's presidency was a disaster. (again, a position that crockett agrees with)

Crockett is against the only Republican onstage who isn't being funded in part by the Koch Brothers (whom crockett hates)

Crockett is against the only Republican onstage who was against the Iraq War from the very beginning and has it on record. (a position that crockett agrees with as well)

Crockett is FOR Jeb Bush? Seriously?

I don't get it.
This must be Crockett trolling at it's very finest.

Is this true crockett?? These are serious allegations that need to be addressed.

I've been pretty sick most of the day so I missed the debate, but caught some of the analysis after. It was interesting to me how some of the hosts said that Trump had offended women with some of what he said and gave ammo to Hillary Clinton. They went on and on about how he will have issues with female voters (and maybe he will if he gets the nomination) then they cut to these groups that were watching the debate and asked the women if Trump offended them. None of them were offended.

It was highly entertaining, the entire thing with Trump being the elephant in the room plays like an SNL sketch to me.

He can't win the Republican nomination, the power behind the RNC would never let it happen, so he'll probably end up running as an independent and we know how that works out.

The rich boor character who gets worse when encouraged is hilarious. I have him on my Twitter, it's 4AM and he's still tweeting like a mofo, insulting anybody and everybody who doesn't kiss his ass. 'Clown' 'Not a good person, a beggar' 'Never liked her, ugly person' 'Total failure, people don't like him' :1orglaugh

The problem with what they tell you they will do, is how many do it, how many drop pledges and how many can't get their promises through the Senate and Congress?

I gotta give him credit. Trump refusing to pledge allegiance to the Republican party was pretty fucking dope. In the academic sense, he fell flat on his face. But he struck a heavy duty chord with the voters I'm sure.



My personal favorite moment was rand Paul getting curbstomped pretty much every time he opened his mouth. Lol

Please stop with the coherent analysis of his ineptitude and the underlying reasons for his popularity, you're ruining it for the rest of us

For real though, the post-debate polls aren't just a victory for peeps who value stream of consciousness brash/ignorant/tourette-style remarks and hit-the-amygdala-sound-bites over logic, wisdom and reason, the results are an indictment of your whole constitutional republic

Trump serves as a mirror for a specific segment of the American population, and the view is pretty ugly. If I think about it for too long my head will explode, that people can perceive off-the-cuff ignorant remarks as 'straight-shooter' truth and value that instead of demanding more from their prospective leaders. Ethics, honesty, wisdom, egalitarian leadership, all that kooky ish.

This goes beyond Trump btw, anti-intellectualism is a time-honored tradition in your nation. There's a reason why peeps on the US campaign stump pose with guns instead of books. There's a reason why such an obscene amount of cash is needed to even get a shot at the brass ring.

Looking at the US from outside, y'all have a system that's irrevocably broken as fuck. Due to the set up of your campaign system top echelon money and power alway win, people don't. if I was a US citizen I'd hold my nose and vote democrat but I wouldn't be pleased about it; to me the choice between the lesser of two evils is not an acceptable range of viable options.

No wonder almost half the people in your nation can't be bothered to show up at the polls.

That was not a debate. He just ran his mouth and didn't say much, as usual. He's picked immigration as his pet issue, so as long as he appeals to the xenophobes he's done his job.

Every answer he gave for a direct question was evasive and full of bullshit. I'm very shocked that Fox News went after him the way they did, but they probably have orders to take him out. I'm sure if he could be easily assassinated, someone in the RNC would have it done.

Trump won because his presence was felt the most. But nothing of any substance came out of his mouth. John Kasich has much better things to say, but he's a bump on a log compared to Trump. People gravitate towards personality, even shitty, boisterous ones.

I hate Mike Huckabee, but I like his tax ideas. Same for Ben Carson. Do away with the income tax and make it based on consumption.

John Kasich is gonna be the republican nominee. Calling it now.

Because he looks the best is exactly the reason he won't make it through the primary. If I was going to like any Republican on that stage, he would be high on the list.

They streamed the video on the fox news site,

I cut the cable 2+ years ago -- glad I did.

Faux News Republican Debate -- the first meeting of the mindless.

Wouldn't be fun if The Donald and Bernie run a third and forth party challenge and the election is thrown into the Electoral College like the framers really intended.

Maybe, there would be a new constitutional convention called in the aftermath ... The Donald and Bernie are shaking things up they should run on the same ticket -- they might actually win ... (Damn, I woke up :1orglaugh )

I agree with some of that. But...how is Trump an "anti-intellectual"?

For fuck's sake...look at what the idiots in charge of the U.S. have done to our country in the past 60 or so years! If having war after war, a giant military budget, and being in debt at over 18 TRILLION dollars is "intellectual"...then what the fuck!

Trump is well educated, world traveled, and very, very successful. Lifetime/career bureaucrats are not exclusively fit to run the executive branch of the govt.
What Trump represents is an actual EXECUTIVE.

And if you look at the polling data...Trump is winning over everyone in one main category: The Economy

That is not mindless or anti-intellectual in any way shape or form.

Those of us who run successful businesses would tell you straight up that what you perceive as Trump's brashness is actually a necessary personality trait to being successful.

Or as my grandfather once told me..."Son if you don't think you're the best, then how can you expect anyone else to?"

Your analysis is way off on why he's in front.
And a grand example of an elitist/snobbish looking down your nose as if you are superior kind of attitude.

People are sick of that shit and are looking for someone to not lie to them and not suck the cock of the established powers that be.
Trump fits that bill.

That you can't see that and only see him as an "Ugly" American is your own bias and inability to view what he represents with an open mind.

What you see as "brash"...people see as a guy who isn't taking any shit.
And if you couldn't see that Fox News was doing everything they could think of to derail him in that debate...then you just aren't interested in making an honest observation.

Which perfect nation are you posting from?

He's posting from a state.

I'm posting from the state of Nevada.

Jesse is posting from the state of I'm Better Than You. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh exfuckingactly. :1orglaugh

I'm surprised ********** hasn't weighed in on this debate yet with a barrage of anti-republican comments and memes. Though I'm sure if he watched his head would have exploded. Then again maybe he spent the night hurling anti-Harper comments at the screen while watching the Canadian election debate and he's just watching the repub debates now.


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Holy crap that's funny.

All kidding aside.... If Trump does run as an independent, wouldn't that kill the Republican chances of taking back the White House?

Everyone knows who and what Trump is - he had a massively huge hit television where he was basically himself. It's a bit curious to me that people are trying to "figure him out" as if there is anything to figure out. He's an arrogant prick and a sociopath who is worth 10,000,000,000.00 because he plays the game of real estate better than anyone else in the nation.

I have yet to hear a single person anywhere ever talking about him making a great President. His popularity coupled with no clear message other than "fuck those guys, they're stupid" shows exactly how tired people on both sides are of career politicians.

Agree on every level. To not see what an inarticulate doofus Trump is speaks to the intelligence level of the admirer.

I'm sorry, you were only discussing Trump. Trump isn't being single out for anything except being a bully and and uninformed idiot with no concrete solution to any problem this country faces. This could be said of every single presidential candidate, but I am specifically addressing Trump.

heads-up, that's not at all what thesquealer was saying.



and your comment is complete bullshit anyway. crawl inside your own head, plenty of shit to sort through there.

No, I'm actually disappointed in Trump. He had the money and the ability to be a moderate middile of the road candidate. He was previously a democrat and now a republican. Meaning he could have presented himself as America's candidate not Republican, not Democat..

Instead he just keeps trying to rally up the far extreme right and catering to their non sense. Added to this, he doesn't seem to be putting real effort into explaining how he plans to do anything.

200 TRUMPS FOR THE WIN!

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Just watched the rest of the debate off the DVR. Even as a liberal, I found something to agree on with just about every candidate, except all the "life begins at conception" horseshit. And the Iran deal opposition is so obviously partisan it's not even funny.

But the ideas on tax reform and tinkering with entitlements all sound good to me.

I haven't hear him say anything that would "rally up the far extreme right" except on the subject of ILLEGAL immigration.

What other things are you referring too?

And even though I disagree 100% about a "wall" and all this b.s. about "illegals" (the only problem is being caused by the U.S. "war on drugs" that is bringing all the violence)...I have to ask you: Do you have to be "extreme right" to have an opinion on illegals immigrants in the country?

Do only "Extreme Right" people want a "wall" on the border?
No "Liberal" people think that way at all?

Does that mean that all "Left" and all "Right" people think in unison and have no individual thoughts or beliefs?

Remember crockett, there's a reason that Fox News and the Republican Party want Trump out. And it's not for fear of hurting their "brand" (how ridiculous is it that we even entertain the notion that a political party has a "brand" lol )

It's because he doesn't answer to them or kiss their ass.

Did you see the tweet he sent out to all the Republican candidates who showed up at the Koch Brothers gathering last week?

"I wish good luck to all of the Republican candidates that traveled to California to beg for money etc. from the Koch Brothers," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Puppets?"

His two biggest positions, is aginst illegals and pro military. Also you are forgetting the birther non sense.

and he doesn't even care about those things. Actually he doesn't care about anything. He just picked the issues that will fire up conservatives.

This is all a big show for him.

No, but he's not talking about birther stuff. And being against illegal aliens in the U.S. isn't rightwing. There are people on the left concerned about it too.
I think you're way offbase.

He's the most liberal candidate they have.
Did you watch the debate and see them attacking him for not being conservative enough?
And in awesome Trump style...he didn't give a shit about that. Lol

Trump's been writing books about America and been going on about being president for quite a while now. this isn't a show.

That's your opinion. Nothing more.

Funny how some people are acting like Trump has something to say or piece or that anyone is going to learn something new about him. He had a hit TV show, he written countless books and he's been a media fixture for decades. He was the same cunt in the debates as he was leading up to the debates as he was in The Apprentice and as he has been in every interview ever. THAT is why he is popular right now. He's not fake and he'll tell it like it is.

lol probably Canadian, where a school teacher is the leader of one of the major parties. school teachers rank about as low as it gets for raw brain power among college students.

People who consider themselves intellectuals rarely are, what they are is people who read what real intellectuals write and transfer that intellectualism unto themselves simply because they can read and parrot what they've read. People who like comedy often are the same, enjoying comedy doesn't make you funny, it makes you somebody who can recognize a smart comedian.

Politics THANKFULLY doesn't attract real intellectuals, intellectuals couldn't run a Subway franchise. They do have their place in the world, their ideas both good and terrible influence the rest of us.