Actually, you are wrong here. If Shap is going to dole out generalized help - advice which could 'help' many people - then I would also benefit from that wisdom. While it won't be specific to my needs I'm sure there will be enough valuable info in whatever Shap has to say that I could find useful. In fact, I've already praised Shap in this very thread (which he missed or ignored) thanking him for his one year pricing option idea (an idea shared in another thread).

But as I said, it's not necassarily Shap's advice I don't want discussed publicly. It's the haters and trolls here on GFY I would like to avoid. Which btw, is why almost no one else has sought out Shap's advice publicly and why this thread is not turning out the way Shap thought it would. :)

Thanks for your feedback. If you have ideas or specific requests you'd like to have implemented please feel free to shoot them my way mb /at/ lifeselector.com.
I don't have a problem with having custom pages created for high traffic partners.

Alternatively, we can let you know when the new tours/landing pages are live if you want to do a test run. :thumbsup

I've seen this too. I know lots of sites that are messy and unprofessional looking that could use everything you said the professionals recommend above. But sometimes a simple yet organized layout is best.

I do feel a bit bad now. Thanks for being a good sport. I think Shap is very right in that feedback on specifics aren't appropriate when its basically taking a single gear out of the whole machine and criticizing it where everything is interdependent and can only be evaluated properly as a part of the whole.

If these docs don't pique your interest on site design, marketing and testing, then i'd say that nothing will. My sincere advice is to read over this stuff. Print it out, put it on your desk and browse through them. (bear in mind the date on those docs is 2010). They highlight over and over what I always say "clarity is everything".

http://www.marketingexperiments.com/...%20Journal.pdf

http://www.marketingexperiments.com/...%20Journal.pdf

http://www.marketingexperiments.com/...%20Journal.pdf

Then go back and start digging through their studies and materials, watch their youtube channel etc and give yourself time to digest, learn, read, discuss and then you'll better be able to map out a strong plan for execution as well as a solid framework for subsequent testing.

Personally, i have never found a more useful site online for internet marketing and testing, methods, data and results.

There is also a leaked consultants evaluation of myspace's new design from the time they were reworking their site (08' or so). If you can find that, its well worth having at your side as it will really put into focus a lot of common user UI and usability mistakes. 95% of which are things you'd never think about until its pointed out. It was called something like "Myspace Heuristics and Usability Evaluation" or something like that. I can't find it anywhere online now. They worked pretty hard to remove it when it leaked but its a great doc. I know i have it on a drive somewhere if you want it.

I'd say this from experience. Assume you have a live chat site. Cute girls. A soft, pink-ish/blue-ish theme. Soft language etc.

Then you test a new design... you've been watching livejasmin launch and grow and the odd, monochromatic red theme or littlec's all black theme has you curious about user behavior and color/langauge. You go for solid colors, hard angles, Red/Black, very uhm... severe language like "make her do anything you want..." here is what tends to happen as some of them did at the time...

Revenues might stay exactly the same. But because you are now dealing with people and can actually read their conversations (chat logs), talk to models and witness their behavior directly, you'll see a dramatic shift in the types of users and the personalities of users. One type will be less likely to join and spend and another will be more likely to join and spend. Net revenue can stay the same in spite of massive shifts in WHO is joining the site.

If I was The Porn Nerd, i'd look at each individual niche site he has like its catering to a specific personality type.... and then first try to fully understand that personality type for each site... then market to those exact people.

I figured out a fascinating way to do this with dating. I created a facebook page, downloaded a bunch of content from tumblr... lets say it was "fit girls". I then posted daily from the perspective of a giggly girl and her girlfriends "what do you think boys? you like my shoes" - when its showing a cute girl showing off her ass, but who might have yellow athletic shoes on.

Then, i started boosting the posts - this is basically turning that post into an ad with all the ad targeting ability of facebook. So say you have no targeting but "males" and you post a latina chick and spend 100.00 boosting that post and getting page likes. You can see the profile of every single person that liked the post, their name, their age, their job, their relationship status, their friends, their hobbies, their taste in music, in movies, in tv and so on. Those posts linked to a dating site. (not allowed by FB)... so i could also gauge traffic quality and lead quality based on what i posted and which posts i boosted.

Then i got weird with it. Started organizing girls by latina, black, white.... ass shot, tits, etc etc etc and started doing the same and watching the patterns of who was liking the posts, commenting on the posts and liking the page. Imagine that for a moment. Not only can you figure out "who they are".... but you can basically dig into each persons life and give them a call if you wanted to. Adult sites are dealing with "uniques", but this way, you can evaluate "people".

If i was going to launch a product, I would do this every time. I would gather as much data as I possibly could about who represents the largest group of people responding to that product and THEN, i'd build a site targeting EXACTLY those people, presenting the product in a way that best appeals to those exact people and using language most used by those exact people.

Bingo! That's exactly what I do. People who join Eros Exotica looking for sensual erotic sex education videos are not the same people joining Screw My Wife Club (amateur swingers). Of course, all my sites are linked together so surfers see all the sites they get when they Join but the specific language, marketing etc is focused for each site.

Thanks for the marketing links!! 2010 is a tad out of date but tons of really get info there. I am mostly interested in marketing tips and the psychology of selling online. Everything else is a subset of those things, I think.

(BTW: Tad Outofdate was going to be my onscreen porn name!)

We had neighbors who's last name was Tyme. Of course, they named their kid Justin.

Can any of you mofos go back to your high school friends and be like...

Look what I did bitch...

... and they are awed.

If you can't, you've created nothing.

Poor kid. Hope he changed his name to 'Nick' at least. :D

Should be good now, an update of one of the sites was not added properly.

Cheers :thumbsup

I can :upsidedow

I show them my morning poo :thumbsup

Interesting.

It certainly explains the results difference or lack of. That facebook idea is fantastic. But when you did include a link were you able to tell which types of surfers tended to buy? I know FB must have terminated your account reasonably fast but if you were able to see, for instance that 30-35 year old males purchased dating memberships when they saw Latina boob pics then you know you could start a site with that theme and attract buyers.

Thanks also for the pdfs in the post above. I've been looking for some good reading on that subject.

Some AMAZING articles in those journals, loving the documented tests and results. Not outdated at all. Thanks for posting :thumbsup :thumbsup

+1 good stuff :thumbsup

The facebook thing was interesting to me simply because now they weren't "clicks"... they were people with friends, family, likes/dislikes, pics, hobbies etc. I just has this really weird moment of "oh shit... all these "clicks" are people just like me".

They don't ban your fb account, they ban the advertising account associated with it. They also save every single scrap of data associated with it - every access, everything you did etc. So if you fuck up even one time and break the rules, they will know. You can do this stuff... just don't use your own account, create a new one, proxies/fake user agent info, use prepaid cards to fund it, block anyone under 21 from seeing the page etc. But i also tried hard to keep it super mild with pics and text. You don't have to worry about them policing, you don't have to worry about the people liking it, you have to think "what is the guys mom going to say when the pics he "likes" and his racy comments show up on her page" or "what is the bitter, cunty fat chick going to say when her circle of guy friends is liking a chick with a perfect body". I think its good for just getting a high level understanding of who appreciates what. You'll see right away how race specific or age specific content and behaviors can be. And you'll stop thinking of it as "traffic" and start wondering, "are these unique visitors 18 year old inner city gangbangers or 40 year old IT professionals... because that's going to make a MASSIVE difference in conversions and sales". People really forget these days that with mobile traffic and prepaid phones, every idiot, even kids can visit any site. In the early days, they had to be computer geeks with some strange thing called "an internet connection". People love to blame tubes nad anything else they can, but the pace of change in terms of who is online, who is visiting sites etc has been staggering and peoples blame really reflects their poor understanding of the constant demographic shifts and ways people use the web.

I don't know that it would be a fair comparison to users/user behavior on a tube site to what you might learn on facebook. But it was sobering to post a pic of a girls ass in yoga pants and see it immediately blow up in circles of 18 yr old latino gangbangers or black or whatever. So it was weird visiting all the profiles and seeing the pics of their lives, wishing someone luck that was going to prison or whatever and you're thinking "holy shit, are these the people using my other site???... no wonder revenue is slowing down and traffic is climbing quickly". It was just a unique way to look at what might be site visitors and it was certainly interesting to humanize every single one of them and see their life story.

I have yet, in all these years to find anything online that even comes close to being as useful as that site and their studies when it comes to online marketing.

Hey Mike ,what plugin you are using to show similar posts (thumbnails) under content on page? I had few but they didn't work 100%

I'm not sure off hand, it was built into the Pinbin theme. I usually code my own based on categories/tags.
whatwpthemeisthat.com says it's https://wordpress.org/plugins/related-posts/ :upsidedow

As you know, I deal in paysites so the psychology of why someone would pay for something they can get for free (remember that oft-told argument?) is something I focus on. We, as Webmasters and people who use the Internet to make money, often forget:

1. The Internet isn't "reality". It's virtual reality that, at best, blends 'real life' with cyber graphics and, at the least, acts as a type of alternate Universe for people to play in, scam in, live out their ego fantasies, etc. But it is not 'real life'.

w. How a 'civilian' (someone who doesn't make their living online) incorporates the Internet, mobile devices, Twitter, etc into their everyday lives is not something most of us think about when it comes to marketing. We see numbers, numbers, numbers ONLY - and get lost in them, forgeting that those numbers represent living, breathing human beings.

So I often wonder, when I get a sale to one of my paysites, who is this person who just joined? I look at their names, where they are from, which kind of subscription they purchased....then also look at this data when I get a chargeback or refund. It helps me to remember that these are actual people spending actual money for something I am selling them. But what makes that ONE person who bought different than the other 999 who visited the site but did not buy?

We spend so much time in this business analyzing data that we overlook the simple, basic human motivation that's at the heart of all those numbers.

I often had similar thoughts. The reality is men do not act with any logic or reason when aroused. I would almost venture to say a large percentage of men are completely different when they are horned up vs not. Making sense of the decision a horny guy makes is so hard to do. The only thing that makes sense and is rational is the cb or cancelation. When the guilt sets in then they react with the other extreme

Hi Mike!

I see the banner at the bottom. First question is this a new blog or existing one? If you are building up a traffic base I'd pull the banner as it detracts a bit from the experience. If you have a base then go for it keep it up :)

If this is a new blog I highly recommend trying a variety of content and seeing what pops. Be sure you can track it but be aware of what content is getting the most traction on the site. that's going to be the key. Make slight changes weekly to the content you post based on what is having the biggest impact on your traffic.

Thanks for the input :) It's a new blog and I was wondering about the banner :upsidedow
The index is still just a place holder, the main goal is to have hundreds of paysite specific blogs since that's what I know how to sell best :) About one more week of blog building then some huge changes are coming.

would love any feedback you have on our content site

Train Wreck Content - Home

First quick thoughts... Bigger thumbs and make sure the thumbs are to scale not all wonky and resized.

Ok give it too me what do you think Rate My Cunt - Rate My Pussy!

Thanks! This is something we are actually looking at re-doing.

I recommend bigger thumbnails.
Limit your mainpage to only 1 picture from a user (their best rated). Why? Because you can get flooded by one uploader/pussy that could drive traffic away.
Maybe even have the first thumbs you display your top 30? then new ones below that?
I'd make your page scroll more. In 2015 there is no harm in long forever scrolling pages. As long as you have it load only as the scroll hits it.

Nice idea i will have a look thanks

Mickey! Do you prefer to be hit up on email or FB with business stuff? I came up with a good idea for you that applies really only to your "choose your own adventure" style site :) Let me know

I just heard Chris Sacca will be joining Shark Tank. I expect he will be the best investor on the show. He is one of the smartest investors and an amazing story teller/communicator. Should be an amazing edition.

Hi Best In BC :)

I missed a bunch of these on the first page. My apologies.

My first reaction to your site is.... "what is this site about?"

I'm not entirely sure the goal or angle you are taking just from initially landing on the page. I always like to look at a site/page in two ways. First my gut reaction when i get there and then a more indepth reaction once I understand what it is about.

Now that i took a second to review i have a better feeling for the site.

I would work on how you order/organize the content that is displayed on the first page. I'd try to have the most popular or most clickable content in the first page view. That would be key. I'd also make sure no duplicate content can be seen in any frame (ie Layla Rose).

I'd create a model page for all that models' galleries linkable from each girls gallery. My theory on models has always been that they sell the site almost as much if not more than the site. If that's the case then you should have multiple galleries per model and have them all in a central place (probably get you some more organic traffic as well).

Make the photos clickable so they take you to the next pic in that gallery and the last of the set be a banner to the site advertising it. That would increase your site views PLUS probably get you more clicks to sponsors.

I see top rated twitter at the top. Based on the followers (unless this is a new account) it looks like that move (website to twitter) isn't working. I recommend removing that. Always make sure every clickable option in your initial frame view is going somewhere worth while. Waste as little traffic as possible.

Really? Cool! I wonder who is leaving? I am guessing Damon or maybe Robert.

As long as it isn't Lori or Mr. Wonderful. LOL

I'm not sure I get the point of the animated gifs the way they are right now. I love the idea of them (and the share option). It's unique and cool approach. But the way they are now I find they are just somewhat uninteresting gifs. Instead I feel a better approach for your gifs would be two things.
1. Have them be interesting animations. Ie girl making a stroking motion, or cock size motion or cock sucking motion.
2. A caption along to go with the clip. Ie cock sucking motion and the caption I'm going to make you suck cock.

Every animated gif goes to the same trailer. I wonder if you changed that to have each gif go to the hottest 15 to 25 seconds from that girls clip with a cliff hanger on it. Something that gets people really on the edge.

What about showcasing your absolute best video for free. Maybe offer it in exchange for a soft signup (username/password/verified email) gets you access to the video.

How is the site doing right now? I may be way off. Just some thoughts.

I listened to this interview this week
Chris Sacca on Being Different and Making Billions | The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss

It's changed/educated me on some mindsets to have with investing in business and building a business.

Thanks :thumbsup:thumbsup

Hard to get a feel for this without joining. How's it doing?

I'd probably feature either some items top sellers are currently selling or deals people have missed out on. Both of those things would get me to look deeper into a site :)

Will get to it soon. Sorry haven't been able to yet ;/

Hi Jay! How are you?

Your content is awesome and I think it always just needs the right packaging and could sell :)

Nice Good Luck With ThaT!:thumbsup

Sorry, I missed this, will ping you on FB. :pimp

Only as a guest shark in addition to the regular sharks, sadly, but hopefully for a couple of episodes. Smart dude.

edit: you know ratings would tank if they got rid of O'Leary. He's the bad cop to Herjavec's good cop.

Agreed. They need O'leary.