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Old 03-18-2003, 12:07 AM   #3
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Ya know, I've been boycotting things made in china since the motherfuckers "intercepted" our plane back in 2000. So I"m not surprised that they chose to go against the US.

Fuck 'em.
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Ya know, I've been boycotting things made in china since the motherfuckers "intercepted" our plane back in 2000. So I"m not surprised that they chose to go against the US.

Fuck 'em.
Great logic....
BTW, what was "your" plane doing in that neighborhood????


PS: Turkey also against " you "
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I don't think the US will get much support for this war until it's over and they find the WMD.

What happens if they do not find them????
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What happens if they do not find them????
then we move on to north korea & make everyone forget about iraq overnight
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I don't think the US will get much support for this war until it's over and they find the WMD.

What happens if they do not find them????
they say sadam destroyed them
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I don't think the US will get much support for this war until it's over and they find the WMD.

What happens if they do not find them????
The trustworthy Iraqi government already stated that they don't exist. So of course we won't find any. Why would we?
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I don't think the US will get much support for this war until it's over and they find the WMD.

What happens if they do not find them????
CIA will "plant" some
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then we move on to north korea & make everyone forget about iraq overnight

lol - bush can't go out and make his own war - he has to RELIVE the wars of past presidents.... iraq, Korea...

look out Germany and Vietnam you're next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great logic....
BTW, what was "your" plane doing in that neighborhood????


PS: Turkey also against " you "
Our plane was 50 nautical miles outside of their airspace, and so was not trespassing in any way whatsoever. Matter of fact, it was on a test flight.

PS: You think I give a fuck?

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Ya know, I've been boycotting things made in china since the motherfuckers "intercepted" our plane back in 2000. So I"m not surprised that they chose to go against the US.

Fuck 'em.
You sir, are an idiot
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they say sadam destroyed them
saying he gave them to Al-Quaeda gets more milage.
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What happens if they do not find them????
What happens when the police "accidentally" shoot an unarmed thug? They put a gun on him.
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then we move on to north korea & make everyone forget about iraq overnight
I almost hope America does, then I remember they would nuke a few of your cities.
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You sir, are an idiot
You, Madam, are oblivious to the fact that I am not a Sir. So who is the bigger idiot?


Judging from some of the shit I've read that you've posted, I have absolutely no problem with laughing at you and your opinion of me.

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Our plane was 50 nautical miles outside of their airspace, and so was not trespassing in any way whatsoever. Matter of fact, it was on a test flight.


yeah - right
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Our plane was 50 nautical miles outside of their airspace, and so was not trespassing in any way whatsoever. Matter of fact, it was on a test flight.

PS: You think I give a fuck?

umm...that was a spy plane.
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yeah - right
*shrugs*

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umm...that was a spy plane.
That's right. Never said it wasn't. But I do know that it was on a test flight.
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*shrugs*

Believe what you want.

oh - it's ok to be a spy plane if you call it a 'test flight"
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oh - it's ok to be a spy plane if you call it a 'test flight"
That plane hadn't even been fully equipped yet. It WAS on a test flight, and was doing well until the chinese bumped it into their territory then claimed that we willngly flew in, took our flightcrew hostage and stripped the plane, then made the president apologize for being there.

*shrugs* But hey, I probably wouldn't know shit about it, considering that the plane belonged to the squadron my husband was in at the time.

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There are anti-war banners in yards and bumper-stickers all over the fucking place here... That Bush-monkey excuse for a man belongs in the zoo doing tricks for bananas.
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That plane hadn't even been fully equipped yet. It WAS on a test flight, and was doing well until the chinese bumped it into their territory then claimed that we willngly flew in, took our flightcrew hostage and stripped the plane, then made the president apologize for being there.

*shrugs* But hey, I probably wouldn't know shit about it, considering that the plane belonged to the squadron my husband was in at the time.

why was a TEST FLIGHT sooo close to china - must have been an INSTRUMENT ERROR since the plane WASN't FULLY equiped. lol

maybe the people at your hubby's squadron were TOLD that so they wouldn't think BAD THINGS about that plane..........hummmm


think about it for a second....

I'm not saying the US is bad - on the contrary. ALL countries spy. Anyone who thinks differently IS a fool.

they just happened to get caught with their pants down on that particular spy flight.
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That plane hadn't even been fully equipped yet. It WAS on a test flight, and was doing well until the chinese bumped it into their territory then claimed that we willngly flew in, took our flightcrew hostage and stripped the plane, then made the president apologize for being there.

*shrugs* But hey, I probably wouldn't know shit about it, considering that the plane belonged to the squadron my husband was in at the time.

Bad bad little chineese ... They took our plane...

BOSS,BOSS , the plane , the plane !!!!

Isn't it awfull all these idiots against the US:

- France
- China
- Russia
- Canada
- Mexico
- Germany
- Turkey

All idiots. In fact, more than 2/3 of the world are idiots....

Thank GOD that the americans are there,.. Without them, we would be in shit up to our eyeballs....

Tala, go to sleep...
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That's it, from now on I'm redirecting my Chinese traffic!
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That plane hadn't even been fully equipped yet. It WAS on a test flight, and was doing well until the chinese bumped it into their territory then claimed that we willngly flew in, took our flightcrew hostage and stripped the plane, then made the president apologize for being there.

*shrugs* But hey, I probably wouldn't know shit about it, considering that the plane belonged to the squadron my husband was in at the time.

If I was China I'd do the same thing when the USA is taking control of surrounding countries and spending billions on theater missle defense shit that's basically designed to take over China... Do you think the Chinese are stupid? Haha... I guess you don't know any Chinese people...
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Bad bad little chineese ... They took our plane...

BOSS,BOSS , the plane , the plane !!!!

Isn't it awfull all these idiots against the US:

- France
- China
- Russia
- Canada
- Mexico
- Germany
- Turkey

All idiots. In fact, more than 2/3 of the world are idiots....

Thank GOD that the americans are there,.. Without them, we would be in shit up to our eyeballs....

Tala, go to sleep...
I have no idea wtf you're smoking, but share it with the rest of the class.

I did not call any of those countries idiots. Stop putting words in my mouth. I cannot say that I'm terribly fond of my own government, but goddammit, I'm VERY much behind the men and women who are ready to go to war for this country. If I were able to do so, i'd be out there myself.

Shut your sarcastic yap.
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lol - bush can't go out and make his own war - he has to RELIVE the wars of past presidents.... iraq, Korea...

look out Germany and Vietnam you're next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always stick the the classics
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Bad bad little chineese ... They took our plane...

BOSS,BOSS , the plane , the plane !!!!

Isn't it awfull all these idiots against the US:

- France
- China
- Russia
- Canada
- Mexico
- Germany
- Turkey

All idiots. In fact, more than 2/3 of the world are idiots....

Thank GOD that the americans are there,.. Without them, we would be in shit up to our eyeballs....
Only 2/3rds??? Reckon it is more than that!

Mmm.. shit... pity about that plane! Hell, it needed to be shot outta the sky for repeatedly invading another country's air space without permission...

Yea... they must all be "idiots" - sad example of US "diplomacy" - they can't spell the word.
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Oh for fuck's sake.

Neverfuckingmind. Of all the lamebrain shit to argue about, this seems to fall on my personal descision to boycott a country's products because i was personally affected by what happened in 2000.

So don't tell me that if you were personally affected by something like that you wouldn't feel angry about it. I knew the flightcrew, and I was pissed off. Still am.

So maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, but if you tell me that you wouldn't be angry were it someone you cared about, I'd call you a liar.

It's a very touchy subject with me, and by God, I have a right to be pissed.

You believe what you like, I'll believe what I like, and we'll all call it a day.
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That plane hadn't even been fully equipped yet. It WAS on a test flight, and was doing well until the chinese bumped it into their territory then claimed that we willngly flew in, took our flightcrew hostage and stripped the plane, then made the president apologize for being there.

*shrugs* But hey, I probably wouldn't know shit about it, considering that the plane belonged to the squadron my husband was in at the time.

The flight crew on the spy plane should be thankful to be alive. I think China would have been 110% justified to shoot down the plane or kill the crew.

I'd just love to see how America would react if the situation was reversed.
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...but goddammit, I'm VERY much behind the men and women who are ready to go to war for this country.
tala, please take no offense, but there is a very large difference here...

...just because you have honorable and brave men and women ready to lay there lives down in what they have been told is a fight for their country, doesn't mean that they are going towards fighting a just and honorable war. i'm sure they are all good and valiant people, but they are being sent to fight a media war for the illustrious Shrub..
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i seriously doubt we even would have heard about it, at least not until the disposition of the bodies had been decided... charred maybe, or perhaps just mangled from the 'crash'..?
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The flight crew on the spy plane should be thankful to be alive. I think China would have been 110% justified to shoot down the plane or kill the crew.

I'd just love to see how America would react if the situation was reversed.
they would just disappear and we wouldn't hear about it
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tala, please take no offense, but there is a very large difference here...

...just because you have honorable and brave men and women ready to lay there lives down in what they have been told is a fight for their country, doesn't mean that they are going towards fighting a just and honorable war. i'm sure they are all good and valiant people, but they are being sent to fight a media war for the illustrious Shrub..
In the same vein, please do not take offense.
The fact that I disagree with what's going on over there makes no difference. They are there, and they are there at the direction of thier commander in chief, and therefore I stand behind them, support them, and will wish them the best in their efforts, because they are the ones who put their lives on the line for me.

I have too many friends over there now as it is. I'm terrified that I'll get phone calls telling me that some of them are not coming home.
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Old 03-18-2003, 12:53 AM   #42
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tala, please take no offense, but there is a very large difference here...

...just because you have honorable and brave men and women ready to lay there lives down in what they have been told is a fight for their country, doesn't mean that they are going towards fighting a just and honorable war. i'm sure they are all good and valiant people, but they are being sent to fight a media war for the illustrious Shrub..
Do you dispute that Saddam is evil?

Is it just and honorable to depose evil?

Is not the stated goal of the war to depose Saddam?

Therefore, this is a war to depose evil and is thus just and honorable.
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:00 AM   #43
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Do you dispute that Saddam is evil?

Is it just and honorable to depose evil?

Is not the stated goal of the war to depose Saddam?

Therefore, this is a war to depose evil and is thus just and honorable.
thanks for introduction to philosophy 101.
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:01 AM   #44
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"Ya know, I've been boycotting things made in china since the motherfuckers "intercepted" our plane back in 2000. So I"m not surprised that they chose to go against the US. "



For people that boycott products from China

Next time you buy a PC don't by Dell, Intel or a ATI video card =) I have a sony monitor and everything inside was made in China.

Sooner or latter 80-90% will be made of parts from China to cut cost
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:04 AM   #45
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The fact that I disagree with what's going on over there makes no difference.
i'm sorry tala, but your own statement says it all... if your beloved friends come to harm being put in a dangerous position, you can blame your "commander in chief" for risking their lives unnecessarily for his administrations own reasons. just because "they are there", you think that gives there presense any justification, or credence in the worlds eyes..? sadly, not... nor will that protect them from the most dangerous element in these circles, friendly-fire..


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Do you dispute that Saddam is evil?
Is it just and honorable to depose evil?
Is not the stated goal of the war to depose Saddam?
Therefore, this is a war to depose evil and is thus just and honorable.
sorry netrodent, but this barely even deserves a response... you obviously never took any logic classes at the university. go and ask around... you will find that Shrub himself is being considered pretty "evil" by many varied peoples around the globe, including some within the states here. is it just and honorable to depose evil? what the fuck. knights of the roundtable? is it your position that america deserves to lay judgement as to what is good or evil outside her own sphere of influence? your conclusion is reached w/ circular and self-serving logic... not too surprising, i've been seeing the same shit on CNN for 2 years now.

i for one, as an american, am embarassed as hell about the current situation..
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:12 AM   #46
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Oh for fuck's sake.

Neverfuckingmind. Of all the lamebrain shit to argue about, this seems to fall on my personal descision to boycott a country's products because i was personally affected by what happened in 2000.

So don't tell me that if you were personally affected by something like that you wouldn't feel angry about it. I knew the flightcrew, and I was pissed off. Still am.

So maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, but if you tell me that you wouldn't be angry were it someone you cared about, I'd call you a liar.

It's a very touchy subject with me, and by God, I have a right to be pissed.

You believe what you like, I'll believe what I like, and we'll all call it a day.
Tala, relax...

BTW, I do not smoke ....

That you decide to boycott a product from a store that gave YOU bad service, inferior product, and so on , is fine.

Even, you don't like China, so it is your right to avoid buying from them: it is your money...

The problem with your original statment is that you were blaming them for something the US has done : spying ! They did nothing more than getting their airspace respected... Ok, the send the plane back in pieces ( I find a certain humor here), but the crew was not harmed .

That's all ....

Nothing persnal and keep in mind that this is a board where people will piss other people off.... or insult them.


PS: I probably am much older than most of you, so FYI the " Boss, Boss, the plane, the plane" is a well know line opening an old american show called " Fantasy Island".....
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:16 AM   #47
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PS: I probably am much older than most of you, so FYI the " Boss, Boss, the plane, the plane" is a well know line opening an old american show called " Fantasy Island".....
So do you look like Tatu too? *EFG*
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So do you look like Tatu too? *EFG*
lol... no, I am quite tall .... and alive ( Tatu died a few years ago )....
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:23 AM   #49
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Why do all of you automatically think a country is against the USA because they don't support a war? It's all the progaganda shit "either with us, or against us". It's ridiculous.

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Old 03-18-2003, 01:26 AM   #50
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Why do all of you automatically think a country is against the USA because they don't support a war? It's all the progaganda shit "either with us, or against us". It's ridiculous.
don't be too upset Matt... its even worse if your an american who doesn't vocally support the so-called war, or invasion, or bloodbath, whichever you prefer... those screaming for blood here in the states are even more irate if any here dare not to fall into place where Shrub wants us..

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